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Re: Similarities between my languages and Somali
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 10:16 pm
by TheLoFather
WARANYAA (amharic) is properly is one of two word s that are 'shared' between amharic and afsoomaali. In Afsoomaali is WARIYEE /WARBADANE/WARAMEE. I think xabasha stole this word from afsoomali.
The other being JAAMAA in amharic and in Afsoomaali it is Jaamo meaning shoes.
There is also SUUQ which both share but belongs to neither it is a loaned word from Arabic
What does this 'waranyaa' word mean? I have never come across it, maybe it's the spelling. The meaning in English would be helpful

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In Amharic shoe is ch'ama, it's most likely an Agew borrowed word because of the ch' sound.
And yes, suq is from Arabic->Aramaic->Akkadian.
Waranyaa in amharic (mostly I heard the amhaara in harargey and few in Aadama and Addis use it) means talkative in a negative connotation someone who talks of trouble too much or someone who talks nuisance.
I think you probably use or know of NAGARENYA which I think is the proper word but in my experience the word WARANYAA was used frequently and interchangeably
Re: Similarities between my languages and Somali
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 10:23 pm
by AwRastaale
WARANYAA (amharic) is properly is one of two word s that are 'shared' between amharic and afsoomaali. In Afsoomaali is WARIYEE /WARBADANE/WARAMEE. I think xabasha stole this word from afsoomali.
The other being JAAMAA in amharic and in Afsoomaali it is Jaamo meaning shoes.
There is also SUUQ which both share but belongs to neither it is a loaned word from Arabic
What does this 'waranyaa' word mean? I have never come across it, maybe it's the spelling. The meaning in English would be helpful

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In Amharic shoe is ch'ama, it's most likely an Agew borrowed word because of the ch' sound.
And yes, suq is from Arabic->Aramaic->Akkadian.
I think he means reporter/journalist.
Speaking of shoes, the Cushitic once again share common or similar words for shoe(s); kabo; plural, kab; singular (Somali).
Kobee, Oromo.
Kab'ela, Saho.
Kab'el, Qafar- Af or Afar.
Kob'ee, Sidamo.
For this reason I doubt ch'amma is Agewna unless we can find relation or ties to the word 'jaan' meaning step or leap I believe in Somali.
I believe in Somali jaamo can refer to sandles.
We know the word jaandheer is particular Somali dance where they leap or jump.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iORN99VvJvM
Kab means to mend, sow, stitch, repair...join.
Re: Similarities between my languages and Somali
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 10:40 pm
by TheLoFather
I just thought of couple more words;
BAABUUR = train - amharic
BAABUUR = Car - Afsoomaali
BIR = Silver -amharic
BIR = Metal - Afsoomaali
Re: Similarities between my languages and Somali
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 10:44 pm
by learnmore1
WARANYAA (amharic) is properly is one of two word s that are 'shared' between amharic and afsoomaali. In Afsoomaali is WARIYEE /WARBADANE/WARAMEE. I think xabasha stole this word from afsoomali.
The other being JAAMAA in amharic and in Afsoomaali it is Jaamo meaning shoes.
There is also SUUQ which both share but belongs to neither it is a loaned word from Arabic
What does this 'waranyaa' word mean? I have never come across it, maybe it's the spelling. The meaning in English would be helpful

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In Amharic shoe is ch'ama, it's most likely an Agew borrowed word because of the ch' sound.
And yes, suq is from Arabic->Aramaic->Akkadian.
Waranyaa in amharic (mostly I heard the amhaara in harargey and few in Aadama and Addis use it) means talkative in a negative connotation someone who talks of trouble too much or someone who talks nuisance.
I think you probably use or know of NAGARENYA which I think is the proper word but in my experience the word WARANYAA was used frequently and interchangeably
Ohhh, weregna/werenya (however you want to spell it). Yes I am aware of the word, it does mean talkative or someone that gossips too much. Negeregna technically means the same thing.
I don't think this is from Somali. These types of words are made through roots:
talk/gossip (noun)- were
to talk- mawrat
talker/gossiper- weregna
thing- neger
to tell- menger
and then like talker/gossiper, but derived from the words aboved- negeregna.
teret- story
teretegna- story teller
menged- road
mengedegna- traveller
Does wariyee/warbadane/waramee mean talkative in Somali too?
Re: Similarities between my languages and Somali
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 10:51 pm
by TheLoFather
AwRastaale, in amharic waranyaa is one who talks too much or one that talks non sense where in Afsoomaali waramee/wariye is a reporter.
Secondly Jaamo in Afsoomaali is footwear (what ever the type)
Re: Similarities between my languages and Somali
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 10:57 pm
by learnmore1
I think he means reporter/journalist.
Speaking of shoes, the Cushitic once again share common or similar words for shoe(s); kabo; plural, kab; singular (Somali).
Kobee, Oromo.
Kab'ela, Saho.
Kab'el, Qafar- Af or Afar.
Kob'ee, Sidamo.
For this reason I doubt ch'amma is Agewna unless we can find relation or ties to the word 'jaan' meaning step or leap I believe in Somali.
I believe in Somali jaamo can refer to sandles.
We know the word jaandheer is particular Somali dance where they leap or jump.
Kab means to mend, sow, stitch, repair...join.
Journalist/reporter would be gazet'egna

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And I see. In Tigrigna we say sa'ini for shoe, so the difference is quite big here. I am confused where ch'ama could have came from. The ch' sound implies it must be from a foreign language, most likely Cushitic.
There was a site that explained how to tell from which languages loanwords came from. All I remember is p' is Greek, p is English/Italian and in Tigrigna, ch is English/Italian loanwords.
I will carry on digging
Re: Similarities between my languages and Somali
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:44 am
by TATI
Dude your language is more similar to geysainan lol.
Nothing is shared.
The languages who share more in common are Af Somali, Afaan Oromo, Agew, Bilen, Qafar-af, Afaan Sidamo...and Af-Saho.
Let me share counting (writing in Somali alphabet with the Cushitic pronunciation)
SOMALI
KOW, laba/Lama, Sadex, Afar, Shan, Lix, totoba, Sideed, Sagal, Toban,
OROMO
Taka, Lama, Sadi, Afur, shan, Jaya/Jah, Turba, Sided, Sagal, Ku dhan (btw ku dhan means complete in Somali)
We share more than just numbers..
injiraan - injir
gubuu/gubaa - gubi
rooba - roob
annan - caanno
siree - sariir
dhagaa - dhagax
ayyoo - hooyo
abo - aabo (habesha say this too)
shaati - shaati
hancoo 'hancha' - xanjo
ilmaan- ilmaha
waraabeessa - waraabe
barbaro - Baraambaro
surwaal - surwaal
Also gabarsar, & ajaa'ib

Etc..
P.s kab means 'hold'
Re: Similarities between my languages and Somali
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:47 am
by TATI
Sorry OP I know this is a habesha/Somali language thread.
Excuse I.
Re: Similarities between my languages and Somali
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:48 am
by learnmore1
Dude your language is more similar to geysainan lol.
It is indeed. Amharic is closer to Harari than it is to Tigrigna. But the closest language to Harari is Gurage.
Sorry OP I know this is a habesha/Somali language thread.
Excuse I.
I don't mind, all languages of the Horn can be discussed.

I only said Somali because that is what I assumed most speak here. But I don't mind

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Re: Similarities between my languages and Somali
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:10 pm
by learnmore1
Clothing
clothes-libsi/libs
trousers-sire/suri
shirt-kamisha/shemiz
hat-qobi'/qob (or kofiya)
dress-qemisha/qemis
belt-qulfi/qebeto
tie-kirabat/kerebat
glove-gwanti/gwant
shoe-sa'ini/ch'ama
ring-katim/qelebet
jacket-jaket/jaket
sock-kalsi (or shirab igri)/kalsi
diamond-almaz/almaz
watch-se'at idi/se'at
wallet-maHfuda/keret'it
umbrella-s'ilal/zhant'ila
leather-qorbet/qorbet
wool-suf/suf
Re: Similarities between my languages and Somali
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:34 pm
by hoa
Clothing
clothes-libsi/libs
trousers-sire/suri
shirt-kamisha/shemiz
hat-qobi'/qob (or kofiya)
dress-qemisha/qemis
belt-qulfi/qebeto
tie-kirabat/kerebat
glove-gwanti/gwant
shoe-sa'ini/ch'ama
ring-katim/qelebet
jacket-jaket/jaket
sock-kalsi (or shirab igri)/kalsi
diamond-almaz/almaz
watch-se'at idi/se'at
wallet-maHfuda/keret'it
umbrella-s'ilal/zhant'ila
leather-qorbet/qorbet
wool-suf/suf
hat, sock, watch and wool is similar. None of the rest
Re: Similarities between my languages and Somali
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:16 pm
by hasanwali
IZGAABEER = ISKII + BEER= ISKII (ON HIS OWN) BEER (EXISTED)...
LIBBE=LUBI
GULBAD= GUUL + BAD= GUUL (VICTORY) BAD (BRINGER)
QABATO= QABTE (HOLDER)
TARARAA=TARAARAX ( MAKE U ROLL DOWN)
THESE TWO R RELATED
DHIQAALA(BASTARD) =love (WHORE)
Re: Similarities between my languages and Somali
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:41 pm
by hasanwali
DHIQAALA (BASTARD) love (WHORE)
DHIINGAAY=DHAGAX
BUZU=BADAN
QUUNFUWA=QUFAC
URUJA=OROD
QIMAALA=QINDHICILE
MILIKIT=MILICSI
WARAQDT=WARQAD= WAR + QAAD.
KKKK
YA GIL YA MINGIST= KUN LABO KUN.... OUT OF TOPIC BUT RELATED.......
Re: Similarities between my languages and Somali
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:02 pm
by hasanwali
DHIQAALA=love
BIRDHI=BARAF
ABSYNIA= ABSAME
JIIQAA=DHIIQO
MAATA=MAADOW
INDHAGANA=HADANA
tikikil ka alhonam yasaafkuut nigareyn zim litl dhammo tijilaal.
Re: Similarities between my languages and Somali
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:06 pm
by QaxootiWaaxid
I think in 75 years the horn will be completely Xabashized