BREAKING ... Federal Judge halts Trump's Travel Ban

[Twist]

Fah,
Is that for all 53 states or just those states that blocked the ban like DC, WA, and MN?

Bruh! All 53 states eh?

maxaad ku qoslee waryeeh? Was that a dumb thing to say? or is America not comprised of 53 states?..... Ok I give up

http://bfy.tw/9u1f

[Tuushi]

I booked my ticket for March.We`ll see how Trumpland is.

[SahanGalbeed]

How funny to see granpakhalif , the former al qaeda supporter praising Donald Trump
I wanna correct my statements , very emotional I should say yesterday
Most Donald Trump 's people essentially the Republican party who approve of him at a 70 to 80 % rate , are not all racist vile mean people. I'm sorry I have said that , I like white people , I really do
What I meant to say , after having thought about it last night before I went to sleep { my comments kinda bothered me } is that in the specific case of the somaliland students this ban is a very unfair one. Here you have Jonathan Starr , a kind noble white american anglo saxon , going to Somaliland , building a school , selecting youngsters and preping them out to eventually be sent to Harvard or other Ivy League schools . Youngsters that will receive an american education and savoir faire to bring it back to Somaliland /Somalia or who if they wanna make money can go to the UAE , Qatar or wherever, Why brand them a threat to the United States ? Who can vet them better than the american guy who lives in Somaliland ? very unfair !!

[MujahidAishah]

How funny to see granpakhalif , the former al qaeda supporter praising Donald Trump
I wanna correct my statements , very emotional I should say yesterday
Most Donald Trump 's people essentially the Republican party who approve of him at a 70 to 80 % rate , are not all racist vile mean people. I'm sorry I have said that , I like white people , I really do
What I meant to say , after having thought about it last night before I went to sleep { my comments kinda bothered me } is that in the specific case of the somaliland students this ban is a very unfair one. Here you have Jonathan Starr , a kind noble white american anglo saxon , going to Somaliland , building a school , selecting youngsters and preping them out to eventually be sent to Harvard or other Ivy League schools . Youngsters that will receive an american education and savoir faire to bring it back to Somaliland /Somalia or who if they wanna make money can go to the UAE , Qatar or wherever, Why brand them a threat to the United States ? Who can vet them better than the american guy who lives in Somaliland ? very unfair !!

Waar kaan niicda naga daa oo indr when are you going to isponseer me iga gadhsi huno mcn I want to see Arizona before the ban strikes again

[SahanGalbeed]

@ iga gadhsi huuno .
My dear and noble cousin , you should measure the implications of your proposition more carefully .

[Prlnce]

Somalis have always been hassled tho...even if you are a citizen. Not just America but in Canada. What is the number one warning when Somalis travel back home? "Don't let them stamp your passport" and we are talking about citizens with passports. You are always flagged for secondary screening. "Random checks" people have been detained for 2-3 hours and let go. Under Obama under Trudeau under liberals administrations. Lets cut through hyperbole and outright distortions. It's a myth Somalis had it good under Obama.

You are describing moi right there! I've got a court date soon with the custom. I've filled for a lawsuit

Insha'allah you stick it to them like Suaad Hagi Mohamud.

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2 ... 92086.html

[Prlnce]

Somalis have always been hassled tho...even if you are a citizen. Not just America but in Canada. What is the number one warning when Somalis travel back home? "Don't let them stamp your passport" and we are talking about citizens with passports. You are always flagged for secondary screening. "Random checks" people have been detained for 2-3 hours and let go. Under Obama under Trudeau under liberals administrations. Lets cut through hyperbole and outright distortions. It's a myth Somalis had it good under Obama.

Have you read about that story on the news in the last 24 hours about the former Norwegian prime minister who got detained in a US airport because he had an Iranian stamp on his DIPLOMAT passport? So what do you expect when a Faarax/Xaliimo visits back home and returns to the US, that they would go through the customs unquestioned? Thanks to Al-Kabaab, that will be the norm for us for many years to come, unfortunately.

I expect people that defend the questioning and arbitrary detention of Somalis because of Al-Kabaab. To not be hypocrites when Trump or right wingers use the same excuse for deportation of Somalis or outright ban them.

[Prlnce]

Somalis have always been hassled tho...even if you are a citizen. Not just America but in Canada. What is the number one warning when Somalis travel back home? "Don't let them stamp your passport" and we are talking about citizens with passports. You are always flagged for secondary screening. "Random checks" people have been detained for 2-3 hours and let go. Under Obama under Trudeau under liberals administrations. Lets cut through hyperbole and outright distortions. It's a myth Somalis had it good under Obama.

yes somalis or any other Muslims are more likely to be selected for extra screening, but thats has been normal since 9/11 and gaalos have their reason. but obama didnt ban poor qaxootis to enter the country.

So basically this means that the muslim ban has been lifted and that all countries, immigrants and non immigrants can enter America right?

yes but its just temporarily for now, trumpf's administration is going to appeal and this stay may get overturned. i think this case will go all the way to the supreme court. anyone who had visa should enter the country asap.

First of all Obama the liberal savior made Trump ban possible. The seven Muslim-majority countries targeted in Trump's executive order on immigration were labeled as "countries of concern" under the Obama administration.

In December 2015, President Obama signed into law a measure placing limited restrictions on certain travelers who had visited Iran, Iraq, Sudan, or Syria on or after March 1, 2011. Two months later, the Obama administration added Libya, SOMALIA, and Yemen to the list, in what it called an effort to address "the growing threat from foreign terrorist fighters."

And Obama doesn't care for poor qaxootis as you put it. He killed 117 civilians with drones in those countries those poor "qaxootis" are from. And at least 200 just Somalia alone.

"Gaalos have their reason" that is what you said right? For arbitrary detention being harassed not being let on flights. Secondary screening and so on. That is exactly what Trump and his supporters are saying. They have their reason after 9/11 for the ban.

[MujahidAishah]

@ iga gadhsi huuno .
My dear and noble cousin , you should measure the implications of your proposition more carefully .

[MujahidAishah]

@ iga gadhsi huuno .
My dear and noble cousin , you should measure the implications of your proposition more carefully .

Huuno I would rather live under trump than may islaan haku xakuunto was waba xaran oufleh baa dhaama

[SahanGalbeed]

@ iga gadhsi huuno .
My dear and noble cousin , you should measure the implications of your proposition more carefully .

Huuno I would rather live under trump than may islaan haku xakuunto was waba xaran oufleh baa dhaama

I didn't really know anything about theresa May until I found out that she wants the Queen to entertain Trump in the near future . I was like " what a cruel woman "

[SahanGalbeed]

Prince

I expect people that defend the questioning and arbitrary detention of Somalis because of Al-Kabaab. To not be hypocrites when Trump or right wingers use the same excuse for deportation of Somalis or outright ban them.

There is a difference between caution and fear or hate . That an immigration officer at the airport out of an abundance of caution "profiles" a somali is something we can work with . To outright ban all somalis , who in the first place undergo special scrutiny , is irrational .

First of all Obama the liberal savior made Trump ban possible. The seven Muslim-majority countries targeted in Trump's executive order on immigration were labeled as "countries of concern" under the Obama administration.

Again the same thing here . In Somalia al qaeda and its affiliates have for example smuggled explosives in a computer they blew in an airplane . That's a concern ! Does that warrant a ban on all Somalis which prohibits a student from Abaarso Tech in Somaliland to go study at Harvard ? Of course not , totally ridiculous !

And Obama doesn't care for poor qaxootis as you put it. He killed 117 civilians with drones in those countries those poor "qaxootis" are from. And at least 200 just Somalia alone.

One more time my Puntlander friend , you're being a little loose with your statements here . Obama didn't "kill" 117 civilians , the United States in an effort to support the Somali government and AMISOM in their fight against al Shabaab took the opportunity presented at a terrorist graduation ceremony to coordinate an aerial attack resulting in the estimated death of 117 combatants .
The fact you may have lost your misguided clansmen in that attack doesn't make them less of a threat to the Somali people

[Prlnce]

Prince

I expect people that defend the questioning and arbitrary detention of Somalis because of Al-Kabaab. To not be hypocrites when Trump or right wingers use the same excuse for deportation of Somalis or outright ban them.

There is a difference between caution and fear or hate . That an immigration officer at the airport out of an abundance of caution "profiles" a somali is something we can work with . To outright ban all somalis , who in the first place undergo special scrutiny , is irrational .

If you are okay with being detained for hours on end. Or you are okay with worrying about whether they will let you on a flight or not like what happened to Suaad Hagi Mohamud. Or you are okay with invasive search of your mother or sisters. If you want to be submissive and be treated like a second class citizen that is your prerogative but don't speak for Somalis saying things like "something we can work with."

You want to talk about irrational? What is irrational is defending Somalis being treated differently under Saint Obama than crying about Trump treating us differently.

First of all Obama the liberal savior made Trump ban possible. The seven Muslim-majority countries targeted in Trump's executive order on immigration were labeled as "countries of concern" under the Obama administration.

Again the same thing here . In Somalia al qaeda and its affiliates have for example smuggled explosives in a computer they blew in an airplane . That's a concern ! Does that warrant a ban on all Somalis which prohibits a student from Abaarso Tech in Somaliland to go study at Harvard ? Of course not , totally ridiculous !

A Nigerian did worse. The Somali tried to blow a Somali airline in Somalia. A Nigerian tried to blow up an American airline on its way to Detroit using a Bomb in his underwear. Saint Obama that cares about qaxootis didn't designate Nigeria as a country of concern. And didn't put travel restrictions on them. But he did that to your people. And the fact you cool with it is what is "totally ridiculous'!

Lets be clear you are the one making the argument all Somalis should be okay with being profiled just because of where they are from. My argument is if you didn't say anything about Obama putting traveling restrictions on your people. Or calling your country a place of concern don't cry about it now.

And Obama doesn't care for poor qaxootis as you put it. He killed 117 civilians with drones in those countries those poor "qaxootis" are from. And at least 200 just Somalia alone.

One more time my Puntlander friend , you're being a little loose with your statements here . Obama didn't "kill" 117 civilians , the United States in an effort to support the Somali government and AMISOM in their fight against al Shabaab took the opportunity presented at a terrorist graduation ceremony to coordinate an aerial attack resulting in the estimated death of 117 combatants .
The fact you may have lost your misguided clansmen in that attack doesn't make them less of a threat to the Somali people

You are absolutely right Obama didn't kill 117 civilians he killed between 380 and 801 civilians according to Bureau of Investigative Journalism with his drone strikes. The number 117 is the number Obama's National Intelligence Director James Clapper released. So who should I believe YOU or the f-king Obama Administration that admitted they killed 117 civilians.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 36821.html

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SahanGalbeed yes they have their reasons and the right to screen specific countries.
The problem is that most employees of Homeland Security are ignorant and have don't have the training to handle this.
I travel often and get the "random" screening every time because my name is Mohamed, but most customs and security personnel I come across were professional the Americans not so.

If the Trump Administration trains people better so that the experience is just like everywhere else I wouldn't have a problem.

But then again I promised never to set foot in the US again. Turned down a few travel opportunities for business and pleasure even while Obama was president.

Too bad coz I like the people, and have allot of friends and acquaintances there and the recent cannabis legalisation in some states makes it even more attractive for the connoisseur like me.

[SahanGalbeed]

If you are okay with being detained for hours on end. Or you are okay with worrying about whether they will let you on a flight or not like what happened to Suaad Hagi Mohamud. Or you are okay with invasive search of your mother or sisters. If you want to be submissive and be treated like a second class citizen that is your prerogative but don't speak for Somalis saying things like "something we can work with."

You want to talk about irrational? What is irrational is defending Somalis being treated differently under Saint Obama than crying about Trump treating us differently.

What has happened to that Suad Hagi , story that you keep bringing back ? A FUCKIN KIKUYU SAID SHE DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THE PERSON ON THE PASSPORT , how's that relevant here ? She's Canadian we're talking about America .

Lets be clear you are the one making the argument all Somalis should be okay with being profiled just because of where they are from. My argument is if you didn't say anything about Obama putting traveling restrictions on your people. Or calling your country a place of concern don't cry about it now.

Absolutely I believe Somalia is a country of concern when it comes to terrorism . I however do not believe all somalis should be banned from entering the United States . There is a difference , you might not see it but I guarantee you it is there ,it is called a nuance def :" a subtle difference in or shade of meaning , expression or sound ".
In other words , little like describing what color is to a color blind person
Concerning Obama this is what you written

Prince :
And Obama doesn't care for poor qaxootis as you put it. He killed 117 civilians with drones in those countries those poor "qaxootis" are from. And at least 200 just Somalia alone.

This what happened
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/08/worl ... malia.html
Have a good day my puntlander friend , all of your arguments are weak


EDIT: About the Nigerian underwear bomber . The father of that boy told the US authorities his son was drifting away . If You believe Obama didn't put Nigeria on the list because he has a bone to pick with somalis and not the fact that the somali gov is a joke in terms of internal security , then there is nothing more I can say
As matter of fact I disagree with this ban essentially because it puts Somaliland , who has a better internal security than afghanistan , the number of thwarted attacks and the general security attesting to it , on the list as well . Al Shabaab do not hit Somaliland because the internal security of Somaliland is better than that of Somalia or Pakistan or Afghanistan for that matter.It is just unfortunate that Somaliland has to pay the price for being somali and that the students who come from a the safest region have to be banned for the insecurity somewhere else .