Somali BLM girl: "We Somalis were enslaved by the Arabs" Historians, DNA experts come in

[NoAngst]

Somalis would never had made good slaves to begin. For one, they're hardheaded and belligerent which are not the best qualities of slaves. Slaves are generally docile. Second, they're physically weak. One of the main attributes sought by slave owners is physical strength. Somalis lack in the department.

[Sahibzada]

Genetics,linguistics and archaeology are tied together whether you like it or not just cause your langaab you want to avoid this fact.

E1b1b is heavily correlated with Afro-Asiatic Speakers just like R1a and R1b are associated with Indo-European expansion from the Steppe into Europe,India and Iran

It is not my fault you descend from beta males who used to pick up the scarps left by my ancestors

[Gaashaanle1000]

The Masaalit got it because they were close to the source of the V32 which was in Northern Sudan/Egypt near the Nile...are you actually arguing that E-M35 has nothing to do with the AA family and that V32 is not a Cushite marker? LOL you are either one dumb motherfucker or you suffer from what I call "Langaab syndrome"

Also what's up with these words like Habar Waaqo or Fufu lite is it supposed to hurt me? Waaq was the god of my Cushite ancestors and I'm not ashamed of it...I'm actually very proud!These E-M35 nomadic men had spread all over the MENA,Horn and S.Europe and created one of the largest language families existing today..as for you where exactly did your langaab folks ever develop a culture/religon/language of their own? Your ancestors are langaab and you are now an irrelevant Surre walaweyn


As for the study of Saudis..the study is literally 8 years old(alot has changed since in this field)...I have shown that there are Saudis from tribal backgrounds with V32.If you want to cover your eyes like a bitch or accept the facts is all up to your langaab cajooz ass

A lot has changed? Evidence? Crucian's paper was published in 2007, was he also lying about E-V32 being unique to the Horn in his research paper? Do not dodge my request, supply some credible academic pieces of evidence for your statement that E-V32 is more common in the Middle East than Sudan and Egypt or stop wasting my time.

Saudis from tribal backgrounds kulaha, Nigga, the Arabs on that FTDNA page are overwhelmingly other subclades of E1b1b. Next to your name Sa3ad Musa are mainly Somali E-V32's and and no more than a handful of samples from Arabia with names attached.

The AA Family is a linguistic family, not a genetic family. When did I even dispute that Cushitic languages are a branch of Afro-Asiatic. We are discussing genetics here, not linguistics. Don't try and change the subject.

Being born in Arabia does not make you automatically immune from sheegato status.

Now ponder on that for a moment and then comeback.

Also these genetic tests have tested only a minority of males, so in truth they hardly know anything at all.

The ignorance being displayed here is astounding!

[Sophisticate]

EV32 is the most common variant of E3b in the Horn. Even those Semitic-speaking Habeshis are the same 'Reer' from a genetic standpoint. The thing is you skinnies often forget that you as Somalis are more autosomally-related despite the different haplogroups.

Saizhada, give it a rest. You're all Horner. There's no point in claiming Arabs (even if a small segment is EV32). What's the point, when that haplogroup is the langaab of Arabta. J1 is dominant out there. Stick with being a numerically larger East African. I could understand if (S. Arabians) were stunning, but sadly that isn't the case most of the time. So, why are you reaching for them? You're probably Dir maternally *somewhere down the road*. Give me and Zumale the word and we'll introduce you to the family.

Or you could settle for being one of Tefsaye's many backup dancers.



The choice is all yours.

[zumaale]

Being born in Arabia does not make you automatically immune from sheegato status.

Now ponder on that for a moment and then comeback.

Also these genetic tests have tested only a minority of males, so in truth they hardly know anything at all.

The ignorance being displayed here is astounding!

What is your argument? You make a statement about E-V32 being common in Arabia and you do not have the supporting evidence. Whether one is born in Arabia or not is irrelevant to this debate. When I argue that E-V32 is unique to the Horn, I am basing my statement on the work of academics. Even on FTDNA, E1b1b Arabs and North Africans are overwhelmingly not E-V32. It is not fanciful to claim that is an African haplotype and to associate it with Bani Hashim or Arabs is blasphemous when one takes current research data into account or private test results. Until data contradicting the stance of current academics is published, the argument that E-V32 is an African haplotype holds true.

Sahibzada

Running away again and resorting to incoherent arguments that deflect from the crux of the matter. Where is your evidence that E-V32 is more common in the Middle East than in Sudan where it ubiquitous?

[zumaale]

EV32 is the most common variant of E3b in the Horn. Even those Semitic-speaking Habeshis are the same 'Reer' from a genetic standpoint. The thing is you skinnies often forget that you as Somalis are more autosomally-related despite the different haplogroups.

Saizhada, give it a rest. You're all Horner. There's no point in claiming Arabs (even if a small segment is EV32). What's the point, when that haplogroup is the langaab of Arabta. J1 is dominant out there. Stick with being a numerically larger East African. I could understand if (S. Arabians) were stunning, but sadly that isn't the case most of the time. So, why are you reaching for them? You're probably Dir maternally *somewhere down the road*. Give me and Zumale the word and we'll introduce you to the family.

Or you could settle for being one of Tefsaye's many backup dancers.



The choice is all yours.

[Jabuutawi]

Garbaha ha la ruuxo!

[Jabuutawi]

D/P.

[Iqsom]

I can see why she did it. Some people want to align themselves with the underdog. They want to live vicariously through them since their story is a harrowing tale of overcoming dehumanization, whilst trying to craft their identity from scratch. You have to salute African Americans for that. The thing is some people are addicted to the feeling of victimization. No; really. If you are a victim you are never in control. You aren't responsible. And you become infantilized by asking others to change your circumstances.

The problem is in creating a false narrative about Somali history/heritage just to feel like you belong or are a part of the"struggle". You can give your support without adopting another group's story. There is a certain type of pathology when one wants to self-identify as forever downtrodden just so they can have something to complain about or point the finger at. In fact, miserable people are addicted to feeling like they are at the bottom of the totem pole. It gives them something to talk about and exonerates them from changing their state of mind/situation. It's a self-perpetuating system.

I think this chick is kind of kinky - I mean it sounds like she's having a rape fantasy but trying to slyly pass it off for Somali heritage. If she's down for falafel, just say so. We'll gladly introduce her to some respectable Banu Hashims. There is no need to pretend that Somalis are something they are not. We're just Somali. Not a byproduct of rape. Not Mixed. Not Arab. Not Bantu. Not ET.

I've seen her pictures. She's bantu. People in the comments kept calling her that but lol turned out she actually is. I just feel sorry for her.

[eyes-only]

There was a slave trade in East Africa....there are some minorities who are descendants of East African slaves and Arabs. That does not mean the Somali tribe is a byproduct of the slave trade. Furthermore, there were Somalis who were themselves slave masters/owners who enslaved other African tribes who lived in the south. Ilaahey ha cafiyo I know my ayeeyo's family had slaves who looked after their farms for generations.

I think that Habiiba girl is partly correct in saying there was a massive slave trade in East Africa by the Arabs....that's a known known lol
However she's wrong on almost everything else.