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We Somalis reject "black" as an identity. Because black is a western identity trap, that renders you alienated without any framework for social development. What sense is it to confine ourself to a name that only reflects our skin color.

Just because we share skin color with AAs or other Africans doesn't mean we have the same values, cultures or live in the same reality as them. This doesn't mean we see ourselves as surperior, it just means we see ourselves as distinct.

So i agree with your Aunt. She is very much correct you are Somali not black. Black is an empty color abstract with no refrence attached to it, while your Somaliness on the other hand connects you to land, culture and history.

Lastly we understand the reality of discrimination and racism in the west, it's just not our identity. Racism and discrimination does not describe us. Ask yourself if the only difference is skin complexion and being at the bottom of every social economic indicator. Then how is that an identity?

There is no wonder why Somalis feel a sense of inadequaucy when it comes to the super-imposition of blackness. Because it takes them away from their claim to land, culture and history and renders them into homeless marginalized "other" with no refrence.

First if all, we are in the west.

Ain't that obvious. Thats why i said black is a western identity trap.

And Nigerians are proud to be black and they're striving in this country, most Somalis are just lazy pieces of trash that wanna complain about America but don't wanna go back home.

Somalis are proud of being Muslim,African and Somali-American. We are slowly moving up the social-economic ladder.

I would disagree with you many Somalis are very hardworking and attending higher education, creating businesses etc and love America. They might not agree with American foreign policy and criticize the government this doesn't mean they hate the country they live in.

Somalis don't have to go home, they are part of the American melting pot as any other ethnic group.

And you wanna talk about social development? Somalia is a shithole with no money, no jobs, no nothing. And it''s not confining yourself, it'd be confining yourself to call yourself "Somali".

''It'd be confining yourself to call yourself ''Somali''' wtf Waryaa orood Af-english baro Go pick up an English dictionary and learn what the term ''Social development'' and the word ''confine''' means. I feel like i'm speaking to a 10 year old.

What happened/happening in Somalia is completely circumstantial and not definitive in anyway shape or form. Secondly the state of our country does not do away with your Ethnic identity. You are Somali and that perfectly describes who you are.

Black only tells you how you look, it does not tell you who you are. Somali tells you who you are.

Because what do you write on that census? Black.

I tick other then i write in Somali on the census. Most Somalis do that as well,tbh

And listen here. I was born in the country, I can only understand some SomalI and don't speak a lick of it, I don't eat Somali food, I don't associate with somalis other than my immediate family, I don't listen to Somali music, and I've never been to Somalia.

What you do not get is that being a citizen of a country or a continent is not the same thing as your race. You can have an American passport, or a British passport-- that is your nationality. Your race, regardless of what your passport color is SOMALI. You could be born on the moon and never seen our beautiful country-- You are a Somali.

You might say hey what about us who are 100% American in culture and are even incapable of speaking Af Soomaali ? It is undeniable that you are practitioners of western culture but it does not make them American or Canadian but merely Somalis who have embraced Western/European culture.

Just like the other thousands of Somalis across the globe who speak European languages, eat European food, behave like Europeans, engage in Eurocentric understandings of religion are no closer to actually being European.

You are still are physically Somali but European in mentality and attitude.
The cultures of Somali people extend beyond their physical geography and are informed not only by geography but also by physical ethnic traits.

And we do live in the same reality as "blacks", we live in America. And throughout my high school years I was friends with "blacks" and my few close friends go to college with me while the somalis who tried to be my friend in high school are working at Walmart when I go and pick up my groceries. Black is who I am, black is who somalis are. You're east African. You look in the mirror and see black. If you think otherwise you're a self hating nigga. And you say you don't share the same realities as "blacks" but I'm sure Saddiq at the gas station will watch you closely and jimmy and heather will think "what is this nigger doing in this neighborhood". Now ask yourself, how does my "somaliNess" connect myself to my land, culture, or history?

We do not share the same cultural reality as ''blacks'', we don't have the same backgrounds, upbringing same totality of experiences.A shared complexion does not equal a shared culture . Never denied being East African. Wait a minute.. you hate being associated with Somalia but you are Okay with being from East Africa? which also a region of the continent you have never been to. I'm sorry i just find that sort of cliche . What are the odds you are one of those who claim you are from East Africa and not Somalia.

Blacks going to college with you is an oxymoron.

Especially considering how African Americans and Latinos are being outperformed by Somalis in the educational system.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-new ... e-schools/
Testing in Seattle schools proves that East African students out perform both African Americans and even native English speaking latinos. Keep in mind that the average IQ for African Americans in Washington state is 94, the highest IQ African American population in the US. Their performance above American blacks (labeled as “English-speaking” blacks) defies the common sociologist explanation that higher achieving black immigrants are simply the most driven members of their source populations

''My black friends go to college with me while somalis work at wallmart'' kulaha. Next time invent a better hate story.

Because as far I don't give a shit about the corrupt land known as Somalia and I hope the famine allah bestowed upon them extincts that corrupt country, I have no somali country, and all the somali history I know and care about is they destroyed their own country. If you're from east Africa and you're black, you're somali. And you know what they feel that if being black takes their culture? Then get off the section 8 and see if you can survive in the famine back home, we all know what they'd pick.

To sum it up you are a really hateful person who can't construct a single coherent sentence to save your life. You really hate being Somali and to compensate for that you claim ''Black'' as your primary identity instead ,all while taking pride in rejecting everything Somali.

Not sure if this is a simple case of an identity crisis or just you really hate your heritage and your own race. Either way you need to sort yourself out brotha.

Even if there was a race called "Black" Somalis would still not be part of it. We are our own race. It is what it is.

then what race would somali be? Somali is not a race. you don't see nigerian people saying "Oh, im not black. im nigerian". its just self-hating somali niggas that tongue punch these arabs and indians assholes.

Why are you so obsessed with Nigerians? dafuq. Stop interjecting them into the convo.
I have absolutely no interest in what an Nigerian would Identify as. Heck may they call themselves yellow, green, pink for all i care. I do not grade what we do by what they do. We Somalis are self determined people, we are not confined by a name that only reflects our skin color.

First lets be clear ''Black'' is not a racial family, an ethnic group or a super-ethnic group. Political blackness is not an identity but moreover a social-political consequence of a world which after colonialism and slavery existed in those color terms.

While Somali on the other hand is a race because it hugs both ethnicity and supersedes nationality. Which means we are a race who share historical, social, mental, physiological, linguistic, cultural, similarities.

First if all, we are in the west.

Ain't that obvious. Thats why i said black is a western identity trap.

And Nigerians are proud to be black and they're striving in this country, most Somalis are just lazy pieces of trash that wanna complain about America but don't wanna go back home.

Somalis are proud of being Muslim,African and Somali-American. We are slowly moving up the social-economic ladder.

I would disagree with you many Somalis are very hardworking and attending higher education, creating businesses etc and love America. They might not agree with American foreign policy and criticize the government this doesn't mean they hate the country they live in.

Somalis don't have to go home, they are part of the American melting pot as any other ethnic group.

And you wanna talk about social development? Somalia is a shithole with no money, no jobs, no nothing. And it''s not confining yourself, it'd be confining yourself to call yourself "Somali".

''It'd be confining yourself to call yourself ''Somali''' wtf Waryaa orood Af-english baro Go pick up an English dictionary and learn what the term ''Social development'' and the word ''confine''' means. I feel like i'm speaking to a 10 year old.

What happened/happening in Somalia is completely circumstantial and not definitive in anyway shape or form. Secondly the state of our country does not do away with your Ethnic identity. You are Somali and that perfectly describes who you are.

Black only tells you how you look, it does not tell you who you are. Somali tells you who you are.

Because what do you write on that census? Black.

I tick other then i write in Somali on the census. Most Somalis do that as well,tbh

And listen here. I was born in the country, I can only understand some SomalI and don't speak a lick of it, I don't eat Somali food, I don't associate with somalis other than my immediate family, I don't listen to Somali music, and I've never been to Somalia.

What you do not get is that being a citizen of a country or a continent is not the same thing as your race. You can have an American passport, or a British passport-- that is your nationality. Your race, regardless of what your passport color is SOMALI. You could be born on the moon and never seen our beautiful country-- You are a Somali.

You might say hey what about us who are 100% American in culture and are even incapable of speaking Af Soomaali ? It is undeniable that you are practitioners of western culture but it does not make them American or Canadian but merely Somalis who have embraced Western/European culture.

Just like the other thousands of Somalis across the globe who speak European languages, eat European food, behave like Europeans, engage in Eurocentric understandings of religion are no closer to actually being European.

You are still are physically Somali but European in mentality and attitude.
The cultures of Somali people extend beyond their physical geography and are informed not only by geography but also by physical ethnic traits.

And we do live in the same reality as "blacks", we live in America. And throughout my high school years I was friends with "blacks" and my few close friends go to college with me while the somalis who tried to be my friend in high school are working at Walmart when I go and pick up my groceries. Black is who I am, black is who somalis are. You're east African. You look in the mirror and see black. If you think otherwise you're a self hating nigga. And you say you don't share the same realities as "blacks" but I'm sure Saddiq at the gas station will watch you closely and jimmy and heather will think "what is this nigger doing in this neighborhood". Now ask yourself, how does my "somaliNess" connect myself to my land, culture, or history?

We do not share the same cultural reality as ''blacks'', we don't have the same backgrounds, upbringing same totality of experiences.A shared complexion does not equal a shared culture . Never denied being East African. Wait a minute.. you hate being associated with Somalia but you are Okay with being from East Africa? which also a region of the continent you have never been to. I'm sorry i just find that sort of cliche . What are the odds you are one of those who claim you are from East Africa and not Somalia.

Blacks going to college with you is an oxymoron.

Especially considering how African Americans and Latinos are being outperformed by Somalis in the educational system.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-new ... e-schools/
Testing in Seattle schools proves that East African students out perform both African Americans and even native English speaking latinos. Keep in mind that the average IQ for African Americans in Washington state is 94, the highest IQ African American population in the US. Their performance above American blacks (labeled as “English-speaking” blacks) defies the common sociologist explanation that higher achieving black immigrants are simply the most driven members of their source populations

''My black friends go to college with me while somalis work at wallmart'' kulaha. Next time invent a better hate story.

Because as far I don't give a shit about the corrupt land known as Somalia and I hope the famine allah bestowed upon them extincts that corrupt country, I have no somali country, and all the somali history I know and care about is they destroyed their own country. If you're from east Africa and you're black, you're somali. And you know what they feel that if being black takes their culture? Then get off the section 8 and see if you can survive in the famine back home, we all know what they'd pick.

To sum it up you are a really hateful person who can't construct a single coherent sentence to save your life. You really hate being Somali and to compensate for that you claim ''Black'' as your primary identity instead ,all while taking pride in rejecting everything Somali.

Not sure if this is a simple case of an identity crisis or just you really hate your heritage and your own race. Either way you need to sort yourself out brotha.

Random question but are you from the ghetto?

if you are it explains your fadhi ku dirir skills

Random question but are you from the ghetto?

if you are it explains your fadhi ku dirir skills

Ain't that obvious. Thats why i said black is a western identity trap.



Somalis are proud of being Muslim,African and Somali-American. We are slowly moving up the social-economic ladder.

I would disagree with you many Somalis are very hardworking and attending higher education, creating businesses etc and love America. They might not agree with American foreign policy and criticize the government this doesn't mean they hate the country they live in.

Somalis don't have to go home, they are part of the American melting pot as any other ethnic group.



''It'd be confining yourself to call yourself ''Somali''' wtf Waryaa orood Af-english baro Go pick up an English dictionary and learn what the term ''Social development'' and the word ''confine''' means. I feel like i'm speaking to a 10 year old.

What happened/happening in Somalia is completely circumstantial and not definitive in anyway shape or form. Secondly the state of our country does not do away with your Ethnic identity. You are Somali and that perfectly describes who you are.

Black only tells you how you look, it does not tell you who you are. Somali tells you who you are.



I tick other then i write in Somali on the census. Most Somalis do that as well,tbh



What you do not get is that being a citizen of a country or a continent is not the same thing as your race. You can have an American passport, or a British passport-- that is your nationality. Your race, regardless of what your passport color is SOMALI. You could be born on the moon and never seen our beautiful country-- You are a Somali.

You might say hey what about us who are 100% American in culture and are even incapable of speaking Af Soomaali ? It is undeniable that you are practitioners of western culture but it does not make them American or Canadian but merely Somalis who have embraced Western/European culture.

Just like the other thousands of Somalis across the globe who speak European languages, eat European food, behave like Europeans, engage in Eurocentric understandings of religion are no closer to actually being European.

You are still are physically Somali but European in mentality and attitude.
The cultures of Somali people extend beyond their physical geography and are informed not only by geography but also by physical ethnic traits.



We do not share the same cultural reality as ''blacks'', we don't have the same backgrounds, upbringing same totality of experiences.A shared complexion does not equal a shared culture . Never denied being East African. Wait a minute.. you hate being associated with Somalia but you are Okay with being from East Africa? which also a region of the continent you have never been to. I'm sorry i just find that sort of cliche . What are the odds you are one of those who claim you are from East Africa and not Somalia.

Blacks going to college with you is an oxymoron.

Especially considering how African Americans and Latinos are being outperformed by Somalis in the educational system.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-new ... e-schools/
Testing in Seattle schools proves that East African students out perform both African Americans and even native English speaking latinos. Keep in mind that the average IQ for African Americans in Washington state is 94, the highest IQ African American population in the US. Their performance above American blacks (labeled as “English-speaking” blacks) defies the common sociologist explanation that higher achieving black immigrants are simply the most driven members of their source populations

''My black friends go to college with me while somalis work at wallmart'' kulaha. Next time invent a better hate story.



To sum it up you are a really hateful person who can't construct a single coherent sentence to save your life. You really hate being Somali and to compensate for that you claim ''Black'' as your primary identity instead ,all while taking pride in rejecting everything Somali.

Not sure if this is a simple case of an identity crisis or just you really hate your heritage and your own race. Either way you need to sort yourself out brotha.

Random question but are you from the ghetto?

if you are it explains your fadhi ku dirir skills

Not a chance. Born in the suburbs, lived in the suburbs all my life.

Random question but are you from the ghetto?

if you are it explains your fadhi ku dirir skills

Nope, i am not from the ghetto.

But i am no sheltered kid, lets just say ive been places , seen some stuff and picked up a few things.

then what race would somali be? Somali is not a race. you don't see nigerian people saying "Oh, im not black. im nigerian". its just self-hating somali niggas that tongue punch these arabs and indians assholes.

Why are you so obsessed with Nigerians? dafuq. Stop interjecting them into the convo.
I have absolutely no interest in what an Nigerian would Identify as. Heck may they call themselves yellow, green, pink for all i care. I do not grade what we do by what they do. We Somalis are self determined people, we are not confined by a name that only reflects our skin color.

First lets be clear ''Black'' is not a racial family, an ethnic group or a super-ethnic group. Political blackness is not an identity but moreover a social-political consequence of a world which after colonialism and slavery existed in those color terms.

While Somali on the other hand is a race because it hugs both ethnicity and supersedes nationality. Which means we are a race who share historical, social, mental, physiological, linguistic, cultural, similarities.

U a real warya

Random question but are you from the ghetto?

if you are it explains your fadhi ku dirir skills

Not a chance. Born in the suburbs, lived in the suburbs all my life.

Im not talking to your faggot ass

Random question but are you from the ghetto?

if you are it explains your fadhi ku dirir skills

Nope, i am not from the ghetto.

But i am no sheltered kid, lets just say ive been places , seen some stuff and picked up a few things.

Sxb i didnt literally mean the hood i meant gedo

Not a chance. Born in the suburbs, lived in the suburbs all my life.

Im not talking to your faggot ass

Nope, i am not from the ghetto.

But i am no sheltered kid, lets just say ive been places , seen some stuff and picked up a few things.

Sxb i didnt literally mean the hood i meant gedo

you talk all hard on the Internet. You got family members in somali? I hope they're starving due to the famine.

Im not talking to your faggot ass



Sxb i didnt literally mean the hood i meant gedo

you talk all hard on the Internet. You got family members in somali? I hope they're starving due to the famine.

You shaytan

But nah they good if anyone died id hear about it by now. But i inherited a house in bosaso. Finna chill there in the summer while your bitch ass is loading bricks

you talk all hard on the Internet. You got family members in somali? I hope they're starving due to the famine.

You shaytan

But nah they good if anyone died id hear about it by now. But i inherited a house in bosaso. Finna chill there in the summer while your bitch ass is loading bricks

Welp. Somalia is a dangerous place ran by Al Shabaab. It's your life though.

You shaytan

But nah they good if anyone died id hear about it by now. But i inherited a house in bosaso. Finna chill there in the summer while your bitch ass is loading bricks

Welp. Somalia is a dangerous place ran by Al Shabaab. It's your life though.

This idiot doesnt know shot about the political situation in Somalia

Kulaha bosaso isnt safe

Welp. Somalia is a dangerous place ran by Al Shabaab. It's your life though.

This idiot doesnt know shot about the political situation in Somalia

Kulaha bosaso isnt safe

have fun in the shit stain known as Somalia. And I couldn't care less about the political situation. Fuck all those niggas.

I'm bringing up Nigerians because they are also africans. And Somali will never be a race. You might as well stop trying.

Sxb i didnt literally mean the hood i meant gedo