Siyad Barre, the strong man who ruled Somalia on iron fist unruly Somalis. We will erect a statue in Kismayu for him.

[Lion104]

Excuse me but would you guys be so kind to elaborate more on the unruly warring-like somalis that needed to be chained..

Stop painting all somalis with the same brush.. It's getting little annoying

I'm describing Hawiye, Darood, Isaaq and Dir. These clans before Somalia had no concept whatsoever of Islam, or Somalinimo and only butchered each other and stole each others camels ever since it has been domesticated. Culturally, all these clans are identical due their shared nomadic background. If you're not from these nomadic clans, and are Somali, then it doesn't describe you. These four clans only care about their clan interests, they will rebel against a democratically elected leader or a dictatorship if it goes against their clan interests, they will ally with kuffar if their clan benefits from it. They must be tamed, there is simply no other solution else they'll revert back to their natural habitat and culture. They must be constantly whipped back to submission.

You can't keep your daroodist propaganda straight in one page .

If isaaq darood hawiye only ever worked for their interest. What does that make of afweene and his daroodist regime ?

Son of boli qaran, Isaaq fought for their right so did the hawiye. Stop being coward and admit darood were wearing the kacaan shirt when they committed their atrocites.

Siad Barre didn't care about clan, only power. He would happily kill his tribe if it meant that he'd keep power. Not a single road was built in Gedo or an airport in Laascaanood. Everything was built in Hawiye regions because they were more profitable for the nation. Clan to Siad Barre was a tool, nothing more. A point came when he had to choose to either between giving up power, or relying on clannism, so he chose the latter. Prior to 1977, there was no clan biases and he didn't have complete authority to do what he wanted. He was accountable, and the people who he was accountable to were killed and replaced by loyal stooges from his clan who were qabilists because there was no other way he'd have power. Hawiye played a major role in the revolution of 1969, actually all clans did since it wasn't qabil based. Don't make it out as if he done everything on his own which was impossible. A Mareexan General who was part of the revolution was executed by Siad Barre after he and another military official tried to save the revolution by telling Siad Barre to peacefully step down.

[TheLoFather]

Siad Barre didn't care about clan, only power...

.....had to choose to either between giving up power, or relying on clannism so he chose the latter.

Tola'ay!!! Could someone please lend a cow's brain to our lion? Malaha caqliga geela ayuu leeyahey!

And why do you think all others have relied on their clans and clannism? ... I am sure you know it was not to stir the tea?

[thelucky1]

I'm describing Hawiye, Darood, Isaaq and Dir. These clans before Somalia had no concept whatsoever of Islam, or Somalinimo and only butchered each other and stole each others camels ever since it has been domesticated. Culturally, all these clans are identical due their shared nomadic background. If you're not from these nomadic clans, and are Somali, then it doesn't describe you. These four clans only care about their clan interests, they will rebel against a democratically elected leader or a dictatorship if it goes against their clan interests, they will ally with kuffar if their clan benefits from it. They must be tamed, there is simply no other solution else they'll revert back to their natural habitat and culture. They must be constantly whipped back to submission.

You can't keep your daroodist propaganda straight in one page .

If isaaq darood hawiye only ever worked for their interest. What does that make of afweene and his daroodist regime ?

Son of boli qaran, Isaaq fought for their right so did the hawiye. Stop being coward and admit darood were wearing the kacaan shirt when they committed their atrocites.

Siad Barre didn't care about clan, only power. He would happily kill his tribe if it meant that he'd keep power. Not a single road was built in Gedo or an airport in Laascaanood. Everything was built in Hawiye regions because they were more profitable for the nation. Clan to Siad Barre was a tool, nothing more. A point came when he had to choose to either between giving up power, or relying on clannism, so he chose the latter. Prior to 1977, there was no clan biases and he didn't have complete authority to do what he wanted. He was accountable, and the people who he was accountable to were killed and replaced by loyal stooges from his clan who were qabilists because there was no other way he'd have power. Hawiye played a major role in the revolution of 1969, actually all clans did since it wasn't qabil based. Don't make it out as if he done everything on his own which was impossible. A Mareexan General who was part of the revolution was executed by Siad Barre after he and another military official tried to save the revolution by telling Siad Barre to peacefully step down.

You are mistaken if you think I'm expecting son of boli qaran to tell the truth.

Afweeyne who meet his much fitting demise in a Nigerian toilet for going against the isaaq was nothing but a daroodist head. Working for the interest of his clansman . The isaaq experienced this the worst. No other somali even come close.

Yourself and his faithful darood followers till this day show how sick it was, diminishing and downplaying the death of +50000 isaaq

[Lion104]

You can't keep your daroodist propaganda straight in one page .

If isaaq darood hawiye only ever worked for their interest. What does that make of afweene and his daroodist regime ?

Son of boli qaran, Isaaq fought for their right so did the hawiye. Stop being coward and admit darood were wearing the kacaan shirt when they committed their atrocites.

Siad Barre didn't care about clan, only power. He would happily kill his tribe if it meant that he'd keep power. Not a single road was built in Gedo or an airport in Laascaanood. Everything was built in Hawiye regions because they were more profitable for the nation. Clan to Siad Barre was a tool, nothing more. A point came when he had to choose to either between giving up power, or relying on clannism, so he chose the latter. Prior to 1977, there was no clan biases and he didn't have complete authority to do what he wanted. He was accountable, and the people who he was accountable to were killed and replaced by loyal stooges from his clan who were qabilists because there was no other way he'd have power. Hawiye played a major role in the revolution of 1969, actually all clans did since it wasn't qabil based. Don't make it out as if he done everything on his own which was impossible. A Mareexan General who was part of the revolution was executed by Siad Barre after he and another military official tried to save the revolution by telling Siad Barre to peacefully step down.

You are mistaken if you think I'm expecting son of boli qaran to tell the truth.

Afweeyne who meet his much fitting demise in a Nigerian toilet for going against the isaaq was nothing but a daroodist head. Working for the interest of his clansman . The isaaq experienced this the worst. No other somali even come close.

Yourself and his faithful darood followers till this day show how sick it was, diminishing and downplaying the death of +50000 isaaq

Keep yapping about +50000 Isaaq(heavily inflated) who were harboring anti-government movements when +500000 Raxanweyne were starved to death in two famines for no reason whatsoever. Your people were killed not for being Isaaq, but for going against a dictatorship. 5000 Majerteen were also killed, 10,000 Xawaadle, the list is endless. More people died in other Somali regions, but they knew that they were fighting against a dictatorship, whilst you thought you were fighting against Somalia. Perhaps Siad Barre wasn't wrong after all? I guess you do have a history of allying with the British against anti-colonial movements. There is no other reason why you would renounce your country, your identity, your people, your culture, whilst everybody else including people who suffered worse before and after Siad Barre, moved on. Almost all of your leaders/politicians such as Siilanyo, Muuse Biixi, Riyale, Waraabe were part of the government. This hatred for Somalis is just disgusting, your enemy today is Hawiye but they refused to bomb your cities and actually landed in Djibouti. Whilst the Ethiopians who bombed Hargeisa are deemed as allies against these evil nasty terrorist Muslims.

[thelucky1]

Siad Barre didn't care about clan, only power. He would happily kill his tribe if it meant that he'd keep power. Not a single road was built in Gedo or an airport in Laascaanood. Everything was built in Hawiye regions because they were more profitable for the nation. Clan to Siad Barre was a tool, nothing more. A point came when he had to choose to either between giving up power, or relying on clannism, so he chose the latter. Prior to 1977, there was no clan biases and he didn't have complete authority to do what he wanted. He was accountable, and the people who he was accountable to were killed and replaced by loyal stooges from his clan who were qabilists because there was no other way he'd have power. Hawiye played a major role in the revolution of 1969, actually all clans did since it wasn't qabil based. Don't make it out as if he done everything on his own which was impossible. A Mareexan General who was part of the revolution was executed by Siad Barre after he and another military official tried to save the revolution by telling Siad Barre to peacefully step down.

You are mistaken if you think I'm expecting son of boli qaran to tell the truth.

Afweeyne who meet his much fitting demise in a Nigerian toilet for going against the isaaq was nothing but a daroodist head. Working for the interest of his clansman . The isaaq experienced this the worst. No other somali even come close.

Yourself and his faithful darood followers till this day show how sick it was, diminishing and downplaying the death of +50000 isaaq

Keep yapping about +50000 Isaaq(heavily inflated) who were harboring anti-government movements when +500000 Raxanweyne were starved to death in two famines for no reason whatsoever. Your people were killed not for being Isaaq, but for going against a dictatorship. 5000 Majerteen were also killed, 10,000 Xawaadle, the list is endless. More people died in other Somali regions, but they knew that they were fighting against a dictatorship, whilst you thought you were fighting against Somalia. Perhaps Siad Barre wasn't wrong after all? I guess you do have a history of allying with the British against anti-colonial movements. There is no other reason why you would renounce your country, your identity, your people, whilst everybody else moved on.

Haddii aad dishen million raxanweyn maxa naga galay.
Did we have hand in it? No, then why bring it up son of boli qaran?

The kacaan targted displaced and armed darood even local midgan against Isaaq. Only dishonest son of boli qaran will deny this.

Biritsh this biritsh that. How come you can't free lascanood or do you see birtish forces ? Dooro love to make up stories and myth but it only bacfires.

[Lion104]

You are mistaken if you think I'm expecting son of boli qaran to tell the truth.

Afweeyne who meet his much fitting demise in a Nigerian toilet for going against the isaaq was nothing but a daroodist head. Working for the interest of his clansman . The isaaq experienced this the worst. No other somali even come close.

Yourself and his faithful darood followers till this day show how sick it was, diminishing and downplaying the death of +50000 isaaq

Keep yapping about +50000 Isaaq(heavily inflated) who were harboring anti-government movements when +500000 Raxanweyne were starved to death in two famines for no reason whatsoever. Your people were killed not for being Isaaq, but for going against a dictatorship. 5000 Majerteen were also killed, 10,000 Xawaadle, the list is endless. More people died in other Somali regions, but they knew that they were fighting against a dictatorship, whilst you thought you were fighting against Somalia. Perhaps Siad Barre wasn't wrong after all? I guess you do have a history of allying with the British against anti-colonial movements. There is no other reason why you would renounce your country, your identity, your people, whilst everybody else moved on.

Haddii aad dishen million raxanweyn maxa naga galay.
Did we have hand in it? No, then why bring it up son of boli qaran?

The kacaan targted displaced and armed darood even local midgan against Isaaq. Only dishonest son of boli qaran will deny this.

Biritsh this biritsh that. How come you can't free lascanood or do you see birtish forces ? Dooro love to make up stories and myth but it only bacfires.

Were the Gadabursi, Madhibaan, Warsangeli and Dhulbahante against the government of Somalia? No, they were totally against anti-state movements.

Were the Isaaq clan by and large supporting and harbouring anti-state movements? Yes, the SNM blended into the civil population and had the support of the people.

Siad Barre simply done what any rational dictator would do which is to support the pro-government clans, and fight against the anti-state clans. When Khaat was banned by the government, the other clans who hardly chewed were not affected so they did not care whereas the Isaaq went apes since it was part of their culture. Majority of khaat abusers, majority of traders were entirely Isaaq, which is why they formed the clan based SNM movement to fight against this so called prejudice. Other clans simply had no reason to rebel. Siad Barre was completely successful and the SNM movement was entirely defeated outside isolated cases in the baadiye where they roamed in the night. Siad Barre's government only collapsed because every single clan in koonfur bar Mareexan revolted against the government including Ogaden.

[jamal859]

What's wrong with the government being dominated by MOD. Every country has some tribes that dominate government. Barre treated the civilians equally. Garbaharay was worse than hargeysa in 1985

[thelucky1]

You are talking of anti--state movment when the government itself was a rotten darood head that needed to be chopped off.


The isaaq struggle began when the kacaan supported certain faqash clan to expand into isaaq territories. Afweeyne knew very well the cuqdad these clans harboured towards isaaq.

Boli qaran kid, not only did we defeat darood wearing the state shirts but the mighty somali army division located in the north. The usc were brave savages but only when we exhausted the spirit and the moral of SNA did the hawiye start chasing you around.

Boli qaran kid, take a nap maybe you are going to dream of more fake stories to tell us.

[luis1]

Barre brought stability to Somalia, but somalis lost their freedom.

Barre was responsible for many somali tragedies.

[Prlnce]

Keep yapping about +50000 Isaaq(heavily inflated) who were harboring anti-government movements when +500000 Raxanweyne were starved to death in two famines for no reason whatsoever. Your people were killed not for being Isaaq, but for going against a dictatorship. 5000 Majerteen were also killed, 10,000 Xawaadle, the list is endless. More people died in other Somali regions, but they knew that they were fighting against a dictatorship, whilst you thought you were fighting against Somalia. Perhaps Siad Barre wasn't wrong after all? I guess you do have a history of allying with the British against anti-colonial movements. There is no other reason why you would renounce your country, your identity, your people, whilst everybody else moved on.

Haddii aad dishen million raxanweyn maxa naga galay.
Did we have hand in it? No, then why bring it up son of boli qaran?

The kacaan targted displaced and armed darood even local midgan against Isaaq. Only dishonest son of boli qaran will deny this.

Biritsh this biritsh that. How come you can't free lascanood or do you see birtish forces ? Dooro love to make up stories and myth but it only bacfires.

Were the Gadabursi, Madhibaan, Warsangeli and Dhulbahante against the government of Somalia? No, they were totally against anti-state movements.

Were the Isaaq clan by and large supporting and harbouring anti-state movements? Yes, the SNM blended into the civil population and had the support of the people.

Siad Barre simply done what any rational dictator would do which is to support the pro-government clans, and fight against the anti-state clans. When Khaat was banned by the government, the other clans who hardly chewed were not affected so they did not care whereas the Isaaq went apes since it was part of their culture. Majority of khaat abusers, majority of traders were entirely Isaaq, which is why they formed the clan based SNM movement to fight against this so called prejudice. Other clans simply had no reason to rebel. Siad Barre was completely successful and the SNM movement was entirely defeated outside isolated cases in the baadiye where they roamed in the night. Siad Barre's government only collapsed because every single clan in koonfur bar Mareexan revolted against the government including Ogaden.

This simpleton has a sophomoric understanding of the Siad Barre Era, Somalis and Somalia's history The fact is nobody liked Siad Barre that is is true. He was a closeted homosexual and an atheist a communist that died broke and defeated in exile in a foreign land. Yep that sounds like someone that was completely successful sounds like winning.