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why do Zoomalis claim history that isn't theirs?

Postby Samsee » Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:13 pm

Land of Punt = Eritreans and sabaeans
Xamar = founded by Arabs or Persians (also every business in it until the modern period was run by cadcads, somalis only brought them milk when they were thirsty)
Beden = Omani vessel
Yibir/Tumaal (the only productive people) have ethiopian jewish origin
Adal and some ruined towns = Harari ethiosemitic creation
Taleex made by Yemeni architects and craftsmen
Walashma dynasty were Arabs, Mogadishu sultanate arabs, ajuran was ethiopian
Zeila was run by Arab wecels
The very country called "Somalia" is a European construct

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Re: why do Zoomalis claim history that isn't theirs?

Postby Zoomalia4Cvcks » Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:40 pm

These are all facts

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Re: why do Zoomalis claim history that isn't theirs?

Postby AwRastaale » Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:04 pm

Stop listening to your mum's kitchen stories naaya.

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Re: why do Zoomalis claim history that isn't theirs?

Postby Xildiiid » Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:29 pm

The people who inhabited the land of Punt were the ancestors of modern day Saho, Afar and Somali.

The Habeshas didn't exist during the Pharaonic-Puntite trade and the territory stretched from Eritrea to modern day Somaliland and northern Somalia ("Puntland").

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Re: why do Zoomalis claim history that isn't theirs?

Postby cheifaqilbari » Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:54 pm

Stop listening to your mum's kitchen stories naaya.
hear hear

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Re: why do Zoomalis claim history that isn't theirs?

Postby DaacasBiyo » Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:00 pm

Land of Punt = Eritreans and sabaeans
When you put Eritreans and Sabaeans on the same sentence might as well put BMW on your donkey.

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Re: why do Zoomalis claim history that isn't theirs?

Postby Canuck2 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:37 pm

Ajuran is pure Somali tribe, and they live till today in NFD

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Re: why do Zoomalis claim history that isn't theirs?

Postby Canuck2 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:44 pm

Adul kings were Somalis (Dir/ issaq/ Marahen)who ruled the region, Ifat 'S sultans were Dir tribe. The castle was built by Yemeni workers. also Arab were part of our tribal structure like Arab Salah clan (who are part of Mehri), Arab Salah clan had joined our Somali tribe Darood and became part of it.

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Re: why do Zoomalis claim history that isn't theirs?

Postby TheNewElectedWarLord » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:14 am

Ajuran is pure Somali tribe, and they live till today in NFD
and Somalia.

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Re: why do Zoomalis claim history that isn't theirs?

Postby Gaashaanle1000 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:28 am

Somalia had many sultanates like the Ajuuraan, Goobroon, Wersengeli, Adal, Majeerteen and so on.

Before that it was known as Macrobia and before that Azania.

I actually agree Somalia was never the land of Punt, neither are we Kushites. Kushites are a Nilo Saharan people that inhabited modern day Sudan.

Also Punt was found at the route of the Nile river. It had Hippos and Pygmies, how does that sound like Somalia?

It just seems to be a bandwagon of lies that everyone has decided to jump aboard without considering the evidence.

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Re: why do Zoomalis claim history that isn't theirs?

Postby AwRastaale » Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:10 am

Somalia had many sultanates like the Ajuuraan, Goobroon, Wersengeli, Adal, Majeerteen and so on.

Before that it was known as Macrobia and before that Azania.

I actually agree Somalia was never the land of Punt, neither are we Kushites. Kushites are a Nilo Saharan people that inhabited modern day Sudan.

Also Punt was found at the route of the Nile river. It had Hippos and Pygmies, how does that sound like Somalia?


It just seems to be a bandwagon of lies that everyone has decided to jump aboard without considering the evidence.
You have no idea what you saying here (highlighted).

First of all Macrobia and Azania are fictional stories. I find it funny that you dismiss the more believable history but buy into the fictional stories mostly on Wikipedia.

Equally Somali Peninsula was home to large hippo population even in the turn of the 19th century. The introduction of modern arms almost entirely wiped them out.

This is present day Jubba river in southern Somalia

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If you can't see the hippos, get some glasses.

Somali Peninsula had much bigger rivers back then even in the north. Most of them dried up due to climate change and populations. Even the Shabelle and Jubba hit dry seasons these days unlike in ancient times when they flowed all year round and were much much bigger.

Punt was not on the Nile.

Go read a little don't come in here with Wikipedia.

Punt was accessed via Red Sea.

Also Nilotics are Nubians not Cushitics.

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Re: why do Zoomalis claim history that isn't theirs?

Postby Gaashaanle1000 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:54 am

Somalia had many sultanates like the Ajuuraan, Goobroon, Wersengeli, Adal, Majeerteen and so on.

Before that it was known as Macrobia and before that Azania.

I actually agree Somalia was never the land of Punt, neither are we Kushites. Kushites are a Nilo Saharan people that inhabited modern day Sudan.

Also Punt was found at the route of the Nile river. It had Hippos and Pygmies, how does that sound like Somalia?


It just seems to be a bandwagon of lies that everyone has decided to jump aboard without considering the evidence.
You have no idea what you saying here (highlighted).

First of all Macrobia and Azania are fictional stories. I find it funny that you dismiss the more believable history but buy into the fictional stories mostly on Wikipedia.

Equally Somali Peninsula was home to large hippo population even in the turn of the 19th century. The introduction of modern arms almost entirely wiped them out.

This is present day Jubba river in southern Somalia

Image

If you can't see the hippos, get some glasses.

Somali Peninsula had much bigger rivers back then even in the north. Most of them dried up due to climate change and populations. Even the Shabelle and Jubba hit dry seasons these days unlike in ancient times when they flowed all year round and were much much bigger.

Punt was not on the Nile.

Go read a little don't come in here with Wikipedia.

Punt was accessed via Red Sea.

Also Nilotics are Nubians not Cushitics.
Macrobia is not fictional and neither is Azania.

As for Nilotic peoples they are the true kingdom of Kush. Somalis and other Horn Africans are erroneously labelled as Cushites with a C.

The truth is we have nothing to do with the kingdom of Kush.

Punt may have been modern day Somalia, but the evidence is far from conclusive. You also conveniently show southern Somalia when all accounts claim it in northern Somalia Eritrea region.

I personally think it was more likely Tutsis, Hutus and
Pygmies who were the real Puntites.
Punt was known for exporting pygmy slaves, where are the pygmy tribes in Somalia and Eritrea?

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Re: why do Zoomalis claim history that isn't theirs?

Postby Canuck2 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:13 am

Somalia had many sultanates like the Ajuuraan, Goobroon, Wersengeli, Adal, Majeerteen and so on.

Before that it was known as Macrobia and before that Azania.

I actually agree Somalia was never the land of Punt, neither are we Kushites. Kushites are a Nilo Saharan people that inhabited modern day Sudan.

Also Punt was found at the route of the Nile river. It had Hippos and Pygmies, how does that sound like Somalia?


It just seems to be a bandwagon of lies that everyone has decided to jump aboard without considering the evidence.
You have no idea what you saying here (highlighted).

First of all Macrobia and Azania are fictional stories. I find it funny that you dismiss the more believable history but buy into the fictional stories mostly on Wikipedia.

Equally Somali Peninsula was home to large hippo population even in the turn of the 19th century. The introduction of modern arms almost entirely wiped them out.

This is present day Jubba river in southern Somalia

Image

If you can't see the hippos, get some glasses.

Somali Peninsula had much bigger rivers back then even in the north. Most of them dried up due to climate change and populations. Even the Shabelle and Jubba hit dry seasons these days unlike in ancient times when they flowed all year round and were much much bigger.

Punt was not on the Nile.

Go read a little don't come in here with Wikipedia.

Punt was accessed via Red Sea.

Also Nilotics are Nubians not Cushitics.
Macrobia is not fictional and neither is Azania.

As for Nilotic peoples they are the true kingdom of Kush. Somalis and other Horn Africans are erroneously labelled as Cushites with a C.

The truth is we have nothing to do with the kingdom of Kush.

Punt may have been modern day Somalia, but the evidence is far from conclusive. You also conveniently show southern Somalia when all accounts claim it in northern Somalia Eritrea region.

I personally think it was more likely Tutsis, Hutus and
Pygmies who were the real Puntites.
Punt was known for exporting pygmy slaves, where are the pygmy tribes in Somalia and Eritrea?

Till 50s north Somalia had lions and wild animals which the British used to go on hunt in 20s. Also we have dried rivers in north Somalia which turned to seasonal rivers during the rain season.

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Re: why do Zoomalis claim history that isn't theirs?

Postby Xildiiid » Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:25 am

The Kerma Kingdom that preceded Kingdom of Kush by 1500 years, in northerner Sudan, was a Cushitic Kingdom. It challenged Ancient Egypt during the Middle Kingdom and according to linguists the inhabitants of Kerma spoke an East Cushitic language.

Highland East Cushitic like Sidama and Lowland East Cushitic like Somali is collectively called East Cushitic.

The people of Punt also spoke an East Cushitic most likely Proto Lowland East Cushitic (ancestral language to Saho, Afar, Somali etc.) while the Kermans most likely spoke Proto Highland East Cushitic (ancestral language to Sidama, Hadiya etc.)

The interesting part about Kerma is that this Kingdom controlled the landroute and land trade with Punt and they controlled the gold mines in central Sudan.

Punt = Horn of Africa.

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Re: why do Zoomalis claim history that isn't theirs?

Postby Adali » Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:30 am

Land of Punt = Eritreans and sabaeans.........Punt is literally so far back that Somalis and Eritreans may as well have been the same people that time before they split up, but Somalis don't even know about Punt to claim it lol you are being disingenuous.
Xamar = founded by Arabs or Persians (also every business in it until the modern period was run by cadcads, somalis only brought them milk when they were thirsty)
Beden = Omani vessel.....never hear of beden lol
Yibir/Tumaal (the only productive people) have ethiopian jewish origin.......What on earth is your point bro, are you trying to make all the relevant people ethiopian and also the irrelevant people ethiopian
Adal and some ruined towns = Harari ethiosemitic creation......Harar was founded by Abadir(Somali) build into a fortified city by Amir Nur(Somali) and Adal was an islamic kingdom including principal Somali clans such as Marehan
Taleex made by Yemeni architects and craftsmen.........Taleex was the capital of ultra nationalist Somali movement the Darawish
Walashma dynasty were Arabs, Mogadishu sultanate arabs, ajuran was ethiopian
Zeila was run by Arab wecels.......
The very country called "Somalia" is a European construct--------What country in the world today isn't a colonial invention, at least Somalis joined together to form a country from the two colonial territories and continued pursue other Somali lands.


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