Blowing up Danish Embassies!! is that enough?

[simplicity-]

i thought the boycotting was enough, but we all know that violence came with it. unfortunately now islamphobes could use the violence occuring as an reason to support the obscene terrorist cartoon .

[quote="The Law26"]and has anyone ever bothered to ask why the outrage, vandalism and death in February? [/quote]

reasons? the news spread fast and also the incident may just been the -->a breaking point<-- of many issues that have been building up .

[SoMaLiSiZz]

like I said some ppl lack Dhiiig, this is not just some picture this is about the honor of Rasool Allah muslims are fed up of getting killed, molested, humiliated but to also ad to this list dishonouring our prophet in some graphics right next to some degrading women now that is it I hope it breaks to the big war so we can make Jihad fe sabeel Ellah.

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Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“March forth, whether you are light (being healthy, young and wealthy) or heavy (being ill, old and poor), and strive hard with your wealth and your lives in the Cause of Allaah. This is better for you, if you but knew”

[al-Tawbah 9:41]

“Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allaah with their wealth and their lives. Allaah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allaah has promised good (Paradise), but Allaah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward”

[al-Nisa’ 4:95]

“Those who believed (in the Oneness of Allaah — Islamic Monotheism) and emigrated and strove hard and fought in Allaah’s Cause with their wealth and their lives, are far higher in degree with Allaah. They are the successful”
[al-Tawbah 9:20]

“Only those are the believers who have believed in Allaah and His Messenger, and afterward doubt not but strive with their wealth and their lives for the Cause of Allaah. Those! They are the truthful”

[al-Hujuraat 49:15]

Abu Dawood (2504) narrated from Anas that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Fight the mushriks by means of your wealth and your selves and your tongues.” Saheeh Abu Dawood, 2186.

Al-San’aani said in Subul al-Salaam, 4/87

This hadeeth indicates that it is obligatory to fight in jihad with one's self, which means going out and confronting the kuffaar directly; with one's wealth, which means spending on what is required for jihad such as weapons etc; and with one's tongue, by establishing proof against them, calling them to Allaah, and by raising one’s voices when meeting the enemy and shouting at them and everything else that will cause harm to the enemies.

Al-Shawkaani said in Nayl al-Awtaar (8/29):

This indicates that it is obligatory to engage in jihad against the enemy with one’s wealth, one’s hands and one’s tongue. The Qur’aanic command mentions jihad with one’s self and one’s wealth in several places, and the apparent meaning of the command is that it is obligatory.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said in al-Ikhtiyaaraat, p. 530:

Whoever is unable to take part in jihad physically but is able to take part in jihad by means of his wealth, is obliged to take part in jihad by means of his wealth. So those who are well off must spend for the sake of Allaah.

Based on this: it is obligatory for women to take part in jihad by means of their wealth if they have excess wealth. The same applies to the wealth of minors if there is a need, just as it is also obligatory to pay zakaah on this wealth. But if the enemy attacks, there is no room for differences of opinion, because in that case it is obligatory according to scholarly consensus, to ward off their harm to religious commitment, lives and honour.

Spending for the sake of Allaah is one of the best kinds of charity, for which Allaah has promised a great reward. He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“The likeness of those who spend their wealth in the way of Allaah, is as the likeness of a grain (of corn); it grows seven ears, and each ear has a hundred grains. Allaah gives manifold increase to whom He wills. And Allaah is All-Sufficient for His creatures’ needs, All-Knower”

[al-Baqarah 2:261]

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[The Law26]

With sisters like SomaliSiz and her ilk you don't need enemies. What you wrote above is out of context and doesn’t address the issue at hand, what has it got do with this issue? I don’t think you grasped it yourself, can you explain it further in your own words?

It is so good to see there are so many Muslims who love Prophet Mohamed pbuh. Indeed, there are many who love prophet Mohamed pbuh more than they love their own families. But what most easily forget is that the Diin of Allah SWT is not a Diin of emotion. It is a Diin built on reason. IT is a Diin for those who think. That means the believer is one whose actions are based on thought. I can understand you being upset, what I can't understand is the degree of your hatred and with ease issuing personal fatwas to incite murder, which doesn't match the crime according to Islam. It is wrong and un-Islamic. And what you fail to realize is that according to your own sect’s philosophy, blasphemy is not a crime in “Dar al Harb”.

If you read the life of prophet Mohamed pbuh, you will see what mercy, love, dedication and commitment means. Sadly, most of the people I know say, act and do silly things because they are told to do so by others and do NOT engage in personal Islamic investigations of issues pertaining to life in general as a Muslim. In Islam we are accountable for our actions, and the judgment of those blasphemers should be left to the power that CREATED us. That is what Allah SWT Says in the Qur’an.

The fact is emotions are NOT the origin of action, THOUGHT is. Do we lust after a sin? The THOUGHT of the WRATH of Allah SWT, and the IDEA of the anger of Allah SWT strengthens a Muslims resolve to resist that impulse. Murder, theft, and fraud are the same thing. In terms of murdering blasphemers in their own countries, though the love of our Prophet pbuh is a real and powerful emotion, IT DOES NOT DRIVE YOU THE MURDERING OF OTHERS, THAT YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO DO SO. Once again this fitnah, chaos, disorder is aroused and doused by the nefarious. The fact is that Muslims like you just give the cartoonist more credibility in the eyes of non-Muslims. None of this is in the name of Islamic morality; it's all about tribal honor. Two wrongs don't make a right, and none of this helps to advance the Ummah, or the world at large, which is what should be a Muslim's mission in life. Muslims like you have GOT to learn and understand the difference between Islam and culture, and, then, live by Islam. It's culture that's killing us all. What you fail to understand is prophet Mohamed pbuh is a human being and NOT supreme than Allah SWT, let's all learn from the wisdom of Abu Bakr ra:

"O people, whoever worshipped Mohamed, tell him Mohamed is dead. But for him who worships Allah, Allah is living and never dies."

Qur'an 6:68

"And when you (Muhammad SAW) see those who engage in a false conversation about Our Verses (of the Qur'an) by mocking at them, stay away from them till they turn to another topic. And if Shaitan causes you to forget, then after the remembrance sit not you in the company of those people who are the Zalimun (polytheists/wrongdoers)"

This is echoed in the following verse:

Qur'an 4:140 "And it has already been revealed to you in the Book (this Qur'an) that when you hear the Verses of Allah being denied and mocked at, then sit not with them, until they engage in a talk other than that"

SomaliSiz, can you sincerely answer in your own words.

If Allah SWT commanded that if His own Words are being mocked, and commanded you to ignore them, how can you put prophet Mohamed pbuh above Allah's SWT Words, and kill those people in their own countries because they mocked the prophet pbuh? Without Allah's SWT Words, there would have been no purpose for our prophet pbuh.

20:114 ...Oh Allah SWT! Increase my knowledge."

This ayah is also Pertinent to this discussion: 17:36

You should not follow anyone blindly in those matters of which you have no knowledge of and incite the murdering of people. You better use your ears, brain, eyes and the heart, and they will be all questioned on the Day of Judgment.

Simplicity

quote="The Law26"]and has anyone ever bothered to ask why the outrage, vandalism and death in February? [/quote]

[reasons? the news spread fast and also the incident may just been the -->a breaking point<-- of many issues that have been building up ].

I asked that question in relation of to Imam Abu Laban a Danish resident? The whole issue came up when he recently visited Saudi Arabia. Furthermore, it was alleged that three of the worst offending cartoons in his possession (published by him) were not the works of the Danish Newspaper and were fakes. I don't know wether it is true, or not, but I'm only trying to gather all the facts and piece the dots to the best of my knowledge and ability.

Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-P ... d_cartoons

[Kamal35]

Completly agree The Law... And I would add something: people like Somalisizz are an insult for decent muslims. It's people like her who are making that non-muslims feel anger toward Islam, because Islam, in her voice, sounds barbaric and retarded.

Fortunately, they're the few, although fanatism is the faster growing religion in these days... everywhere...

[Homer Simpso]

Yo LAW my man.. how is it going brother.. long time no c my friend... r u still enjoying Australia or was it New Zeeland!!?.. hope ur doing fine...... I cannot find RUNLOOW... I wonder if he is still alive or changed his name and still here.. if that was the case I could have picked him outta million people becuase of his way or writting and ideaoligies.....

let me get back to the controversial cartoons!!.. I blame first and faremost Denmar and then Norway, France and the Netherlands.. remember LAW, America is at the forefront of war against Islam.. so we see AMerica as an enemy even tho I live in America and am AMerican..... Black Panters saw america an an enemy.. my man Louis Frakhan finds America to be an enemy... but at the moment our scope is on Denmark

[SoMaLiSiZz]

[quote="Kamal35"]Completly agree The Law... And I would add something: people like Somalisizz are an insult for decent muslims. It's people like her who are making that non-muslims feel anger toward Islam, because Islam, in her voice, sounds barbaric and retarded.

Fortunately, they're the few, although fanatism is the faster growing religion in these days... everywhere...[/quote]


the only one who sound retarded is you and your dabad dhilif crew Allah necalak w ya7ramak men janatoh

[biko]

" The claim that the prophet (saw), was the head of a violent religion is insulting and wrong, and we will kill or blow up anyone who say so".

[The Law26]

Homer lol @ Runlow’s “ideologies’!!! After 2 and half years in South-East Asia, I’m finally back in Australia. Yeah, I’m with you, our anger right now is focused on Denmark.

I’m surprised that you haven’t contributed further to your own topic, and as usual I disagree with sister SomaliSiz. She is calling for the killing of blasphemers. Indeed blasphemers are those who mock Allah SWT, Islam, the Holy Qur’an, and our Prophet pbuh. If you know anything about the Bible, it prescribes the death penalty for the blasphemers, while the Qur'an prescribes no punishment for blasphemy, other than leaving the company of the blasphemers whilst they mock. For example, in the Christian trinity, to say that Allah SWT has a son is considered to be a particular severe blasphemy according to Islam, but Islam prescribes no punishment against Christians for it, other than what God Himself may exact for it, and He sometimes does so in this very life. I will like to ask if SomaliSiz and her gang will like to wipe out all the Christians who live and are citizens of Muslim countries, and others who believe in the Trinity? The Holly Qur'an tells us to shun the people who blaspheme. The Bible tells Christians to kill those who blaspheme. Therefore, I often wonder why it is that many of the same people who are hostile toward Christians prefer to follow the laws of Christianity more than the ones that were sent to us via our prophet pbuh.

Kamal

Respect the sister and let us debate this issue among us. I'm not asking you to become a Muslim, but can I suggest to you to read the Holly Qur'an and get a reasonable sheikh to assist you in understanding the contexts, jargons, history and most importantly the metaphor? Just to educate yourself about Islam without you falling in similar situation like those who you accuse of......?

Biko

Yeah, get your blow torch and your sword, and we will blow off many necks. You pick, Cherryl or Tony?

[maria from west side]

[quote="San_dheer"]Why are they just targeting the Danish, why not the Norwegians, Spanish, German, French and Italian embassies too. At least Denmark apologised for causing offence.


This is going a bit too far. Violence is not the answer. [/quote]


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Becouse they startet this hole mess, Im not talking about Danish in general but only those who were responsible.

I agree with u, violence is not the answer.

[SoMaLiSiZz]

[quote="The Law26"]

I’m surprised that you haven’t contributed further to your own topic, and as usual I disagree with sister SomaliSiz. She is calling for the killing of blasphemers. Indeed blasphemers are those who mock Allah SWT, Islam, the Holy Qur’an, and our Prophet pbuh. If you know anything about the Bible, it prescribes the death penalty for the blasphemers, while the Qur'an prescribes no punishment for blasphemy, other than leaving the company of the blasphemers whilst they mock..


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I do not know where you get this from ? But it is from Quran and Sunnah to kill whom ever bashes Rasool Allah Sall Allahu Calahy wasalam you need to read the Quran and Ahdeeth more on this Topic..


At the time of the Messenger Muhammad (saw) there were individuals like these who dishonoured and insulted him upon whom the Islamic judgement was executed. Such people were not tolerated in the past and throughout the history of Islam were dealt with according to the Shariah. Ka’ab ibn Ashraf was assassinated by Muhammad ibn Maslamah for harming the Messenger Muhammad (saw) by his words, Abu Raafi’ was killed by Abu Ateeq as the Messenger ordered in the most evil of ways for swearing at the prophet, Khalid bin Sufyaan was killed by Abdullah bin Anees who cut off his head and brought it to the prophet for harming the Messenger Muhammad (saw) by his insults, Al-Asmaa bintu Marwaan was killed by Umayr bin Adi’ al-Khatmi, a blind man, for writing poetry against the prophet and insulting him in it, Al-Aswad al-Ansi was killed by Fairuz al-Daylami and his family for insulting the Messenger Muhammad (saw) and claiming to be a prophet himself. This is the judgement of Islam upon those who violate, dishonour and insult the Messenger Muhammad (saw).


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shortly after these incidents the people began to realise that insulting the Messenger of Allah (saw) was not something to be taken lightly and that by doing so would mean that you would be killed for it, a concept that many have seem to forgotten today.<<<<<<<<<<<<<

he insulting of the Messenger Muhammad (saw) is something that the Muslims cannot and will not tolerate and the punishment in Islam for the one who does so is death. This is the sunnah of the prophet and the verdict of Islam upon such people, one that any Muslim is able execute. The response of the Muslims all over the world shows us the inability to deal with such people, the kuffar are attacking our Messenger and are allowed to get away with it whilst the Muslims have no power to do anything about it. The leaders of the Muslim world have no care for the deen of Islam as they are busy cementing their seats content with their power and wealth. Where are the Muhammad ibn Maslamah’s of our ummah who will defend the honour of our beloved Messenger and rise the banner of Tawheed high?

But if they violate their oaths after their covenant, and attack your religion with disapproval and criticism then fight (you) the leaders of disbelief - for surely their oaths are nothing to them - so that they may stop (evil actions). [9:12]


I say kill these Pigs and evey punk like them be sunat Allah w rasooloh

[maria from west side]

Again, Violent is not the answer.....

[biko]

[quote="The Law26"]

Biko

Yeah, get your blow torch and your sword, and we will blow off many necks. You pick, Cherryl or Tony?[/quote]
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i was been sarcastic, but what the hell; as long as those heads in question are american why not. the only heads worth choping if you ask me.

[SoMaLiSiZz]

[quote="maria from west side"]Again, Violent is not the answer.....[/quote]


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We Muslims do not have the fake luxury to abandon which ever hadeeth and verse form the Quran we chooses as the akaafirs dose with thier bible.. Its clear in Islamic shareca that it is death sentence to thows who bash Rasool Allah Sall Allahu calahy w salam ..

Do not come and say violence is not the answer, after you have said the Al-Shahada (la ilah il Allah Mohamedn Rasool Allah) you have no longer any rights to reject any hadeeth or verse from the Quran for that matter..



So yes death to any muflis who bash Rasool Allah Sall Allahu Alahy W salam..

[maria from west side]

^^Leave it to Allah (S:W), there is "Yaumal qiyama" remember?, and that's the day we all pay both gaal and muslims.



Ps.....
Just couz u write essay about ISLAM doesn't make u a good muslim, a good muslim don't judge other's for their mistake or bragg about it.

[SoMaLiSiZz]

may Allah forgive you I did not judge you and I do not brag about it AstaqfurAllah do you know pride is part of shirk billah (that means Associating someone with Allah and Allah dose not forgive the Shirk in him SHOWING OFF IS PART OF SHIRK BELLAH===> If that was the case (that I had Pride in my heart) that would indicate that I take Pride in belittling Muslims how can I do this sister in islam as I fear Allah and I seek refuge with Allah from Pride and in showing off (bragging about it as you have said) ..

Do not let the shytaan tells you lies about me Sister say Acuzubellah men al shytan al Rajeem.. I have said 3 times that is its from islam to kill whom ever bashes Rasool Allah now the 3.rd Time I might have sounded Harsh but it is only for the Sake of Allah to make it ****clear*** and that is it and Allah knows best..




Fe Aman Allah