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Cawar

Michael spoke his mind and I got it wrong. Unlike some people I wil say when I get things wrong. I must admit I did find Michael dropping Optimist in it like that extremely satisafying. I chuckled quite a bit right from the beer gut upwards.

This littille monkey vomit Optimist has been lately hanging around me like bad fart on a still morning.

And what is wrong with seeking support and apprioval and TLC and sympathy? anyway accusing him of brown nosing and comparing him to a libyan are hardly ways to attarct someon'e sympathy are they?

As for isarel. Lets look at some facts. You are a Kombo lad. Your graet ancestor was called Kombo Kablalax. He wore a Dhu, and threw spittle between his frontal molars as a sign of respect. He stood on one leg like a stork in order to rest. He washed only twice - at birth and at death. His first love was his long-lashed camel Hayan and his second love camel raiding.

What on crazy god's earth had Israel done to you? ABSOLUTELY nothing is the answer. nada. Zilch. No harm. Nothing. What have they done to the Somali race? Zilch. Nothing. Nada. What have they done to the wider Black race? Nil. Nothing.

Yet every little camelfocking nignog like you from Zeila to Zanjibar hates them with passion. WHY? Because you were born with your niggger kombo head so up Arab arses that your image of god is probably a falafel-filled rectum.

OK. You love races that you don't know. But is this love reciprocated? Absolutely 100% Not. I gurantee your kombonness that no arab or palestinian gives a flying fig if the whole Somali race turned into a bit of toliet roll bought at discount store by a Jew. Nothing. It will not make the evening children's news. It just won't.

So why are you growing fresh conts all over your Nignog body to miosten for these Arabs huh?

And actually you said "Jew" lastr time not isarel. careful laddie. laddie.

Gogarad

you can say what you like to me and of course Ameen.

But I dislike adults who encourage children to misbehave and vandalise things.

Galol, first of all we share one thing which is that both our ancestors had the same culture and if Mine wore a Dhu so did yours and lets not talk about taking a shower. We all know about where the water was abundant and where not.

I dont hate Isreal because they've never done something to me as a somali...heck I dont even hate those who have...we forget and we forgive sometimes...its in my nature as a muslim.....but the fact that Isreal is opressing another group of muslims under the banner of Judaism and Zionism and they're getting all the support they need and that they dont need(from guys like you) leads me to conclude that this a war between relgions...thats how they're using it anyways...so why cant we object to that??? you know that all you need to get... all you can get.. in Isreal is to be a jewish and nothing else...what does that tell you?? dont tell me ur usual crap and be courageous(as you like to claim)enough to say whats really going on.

One last thing...I dont love or hate other muslims in order for it to be mutual...my love is based on my faith to Allah who commends me to love my muslim brothers and specially when they are being oppressed by others who are wearing their sleeves where it can be seen. Capisci Duqa?? so dont use they didnt do anything to somalis card on me...cos somalis are muslims before there was such a thing as politics or regions man made stuff if you ask me.

Cawar

"but the fact that Isreal is opressing another group of muslims under the banner of Judaism and Zionism "

If you really believe that then you are either a complete liar or even less informed than i suspected.

This is not about religion this is about nationalism and interest and land and existence and pride and history.

Why don't you ask some Arabs without prompting? why don't you read Arab punblications? Why don't you just ask those of us who actually know what we are talking about? Even In saudi Arabia where allah or isalm is a prefix and suffix of everything - the pal/Israel conflict is seen as Arab Jew - not MUSLIM Jew, Arab Jew. It is routinely called `qadiyah Arabiyah(The arab cause - note NOT Muslim cause Arab cause)

Now if you were crying your black little Aabid eyes for all muslims under oppression you would have perhaps mentioned India and hindus more. Because they occupy more Msulim people, they kill more mulims every year; they are the only ones who actually regularly destroy mosques and turn them into temples, yet you do not get as all gooey eyed for them. why not? They are also greasy brown oleagenous Muslim Asiatics just like your hairy Arabs so why not cry for them?

In fact I never saw say boycott ethiopia or jihad against ethiiopia yet they happen to rule MORE Muslims than Pals, poorer muslims and probably kill more of them every year. And the victims are somalis an all!

No lad it is called Arab love. it is unrequiitted and special and evey somali nignog has it. Take your head right back in that wet comfort zone and enjoy the view.

Galol, Hey maybe I am less informed than you thought, or maybe I am more informed than you think, but thats beside the point isnt it???.

The fact is... I see things differently and believe me(its hard for you to immagine) without any bias and/or pre-exsisting notion of hate for Jews(I am not denying that there is some)...but I can be objective at least in my replies....you on the other hand are departing from the premise that all somalis identify themselves with arabs and worship them(thats your words not mine)...and to the extent that we see nothing else...actually we do see whats going on in the world...but comparing apples to oranges aint the way old man...and confusing whats purported by self interest lobbiest/groups be them Zionists and/or Arabs who work for them is not the same as seeing things in an islamic light.

"It is routinely called `qadiyah Arabiyah(The arab cause - note NOT Muslim cause Arab cause)"

Maybe you stagnation to the 70s and early 80s led you to believe in the above situation but things have changed recently.


I will try to add few things later on ...as I have to attedn to something right now.

Cawar

When you come back. If you are as Islamist hardcore Allah's boy scout brigade as you claim why not address this simple point:

Why cry so much for Pals when clearly they suffer LESS than Kashmiris?

Why cry for Pals when CLEARLY they are richer and far better looked after than Somalis in Ogaden?

Why cry for Arabs and their causes when Arabs will NEVER cry for you?

The implication, the accusation indeed is this: You are no different from the Arab loving Nigs of Malindi and Zinjibar who although they look like Mike Tyson after a very bad night still vehemently believe they are Arabs! For some reason they are all called Khamis(Man Thursday)

Come to think of it I will start calling you Khamis unless you get back to me with satisfactory explanation.

^^the bit.ch doing what it does best...^^


And the funny is that instead of addressing Michael after he wrote his rebutal, he went after Optimist with lame gay jokes. Typical Galol behavior. Cowardly and bit.chy.

Galol, Why is that I tend to adhere to the rules of debating in answering your Qs as much as I can yet you always come back with some more?? Thats not a smart thing to do you know....especially to some one as intelligent as me...I expect you to honour the way the game is played...I act you react, and when you act I react...is that too much to handle Old man??

Ok...ka rogoo laba saar.

"Why cry so much for Pals when clearly they suffer LESS than Kashmiris?"

The Kashmiri situation was not here...we were talking about a group of ppl(the Jews) who are gathered under the umbrella of Judaism aggreive and abuse another group of ppl(Pals) who happen to be muslims...whats the natural reaction of muslims in your mind?? why seperate and say its an Arab issue...btw I know some of the arab puppets gave away palestine..but do we have to say to hell with them?? thats the somali way of thinking which is deeply rooted maliciously i may add to clanism.

But if you meant to mention the kashmiri situation(not out of love i know) yes we do have more than hundred million muslims dealing with them...let me ask you this...why do you think more than 50 thousand muslims went to Afghanistan to fight Russia?? and dont even go there and mention who was behind it and whatnot....all we care abt is that young muslims went there, fought and died to help their brethren...was it an arab-russian problem??? anyways go and spin as much as you like...but your words are falling to deaf ears who are smarter than you could ever envision.lol

"Why cry for Pals when CLEARLY they are richer and far better looked after than Somalis in Ogaden?"

We fought for Ogaden and they're our brothers regardless...but one has to be in contact with the realities that sarrounds him/her...palestine-Isreal issue resonates with the whole world...and maybe if we as muslims either succeed or get what we want...and maybe again...we might get some sort of a peace that will have a larger effect on the whole Muslim world; as G. Bush likes to advocate...It will have a domino effect.


"Why cry for Arabs and their causes when Arabs will NEVER cry for you?"

Wrong and wrong. Close to half of Somalias foreign Aid came/comes from the Arab world and/or Islamic world...wether it originates there mostly or wether it comes through them..not to mention the last 15 yrs or so...despite some of them having financial difficulties and/or corruption of their own....yet we always complain abt them as though their money is like ours and we have a God given right to share with them....BTW..the west is just giving back in rations what they have stolen from us as Africans and what they have left with us(bad and puppet dictators that are enslaved by them)....more like No Way Out kinda situation.

In conclusion, si kastood u eegtaba. We the muslim Ummah are like one body if one segement is hurting the rest of the body feels it...but there are some body parts that need more attention and control than others...this is not to say that one muslim nation is less imp. than another(I underline this as I know your deceiving ways of making a big fuzz out this), but merely to indicate that the body with its complex system has different parts that complete each other and compensate for each other...the brain needs 750ml of blood per min...regardless...so in cases of emergency or blood loss the skin which as important as the brain loses or gives blood to vital organs like the brain or the heart so that live could go on and the body could function....but if considering Pal-Isreal as the brain by muslims leads you to believe that the other parts of the body are less imp. then its your own spinning and miscalculations...which obviously are intended to divide us here. NO way Jose!!!

PS. I am looking at the big/larger picture of how things are in the Islamic countries..because i cant just restrict myself at seeing an anectodal picture of one individual/person or even country... wether he/it is a real muslim or a fake/moderate one.