Would you GRANT SOMALILAND their INDEPENDENCE?

[Homer Simpso]

this issue is a controversy-- the truth is that the majority of people who live in the north believe that they have the right to be independent of SOmalia== the majority of people who live in the South believe that Somaliland will always be part of Somalia, strongly they want to get Ogaden, NFD and Djabuti back to Somalia, so you cannot tell these people to grant Somaliland their independence!!!!
I met an african guy the other day and he talked about Somaliland!!.. he was saying its great that somaliland would stand on their own and become a country.. he says, why would you have one country while you can have two?... I was furious, I was like, how could you!! and than I realized that I was a neoconservative in its worst!!.. I came back to my sense and saw things from Somalilands prespective... I still cannot see why they want to breakaway.. its still bugging me!!!.... would you let them breakaway? and why?

[Kramer]

No I won't grant them becuz there is something called the Balkanization of somalia --that is dividing somalia into as many pieces as possible -so it will be easy for our enemies to control us --and this fools have fallen to the trap and the scheme and don't want to be somali any more.
This idea of destroying somalia into pieces was first introduced by the british about 1880s and 1900s. three attempts to reunite the whole somalia were prevent by the british and America --first was the attempt of ahmed gurey --then the attempt of Sayid mohamed --and lastly that of Said Bare's five star --all have been followed by foriegn intervention.
so nobody is gonna give indepedence to somaliland.

[Homer Simpso]

I agree... I dont know about Siyaads attempt but I concure with other attempts... Siyaads was a politcal move.. he's never cared about the people... its pure politics....

so you aint liberal about this issue?... would you even consider granting Somaliland their independence?... would you sit on a table with them to discuss the issue.. or its undiscussable for you,,,,

[QansaGabeyle]

No I would not allow isaaqland to break away. I want isaaqs to be part of Somalia so they can retain their subordinate status.....

Where are Luckky and Gogorad these days?

[Homer Simpso]

what about if they werent Isaaq?.. what about if they were a mix of all the Somali clans who agreed to breakaway!!.. would that make a difference?

[QansaGabeyle]

War Homeroow, I was joking saaxib. I do not care who breaks away wale. It does not really concern me much. As long as there is a peaceful place in the former Somalia where I can live peacefully then I am fine with it. In the mean time, I will be chilling in America and vacationing in the Maldives, swimming with the sharks.

[fagash_killer]

great topic i came from somaliland and i think somalia is spit up between 3 tribes who are are pro somaliland and anti somaliland like the darood and hawiye and dir most of the hawiye in muqadisho for example are pro somaliland and they really dont care why somaliland should go solo on the other hand darood not all darood by the way want that somaliland should be recaptured it by force siyaad barre wanted to give somaliland to darood like ogadens dhulos and warsangelis and thats why they understood and thats what abdillahi yusuf and his goverment knows and thats why the where so pissed of when they knew ethopia recognised somaliland anyway just read this and i will post on other article news and i hope you will understand why somaliland shouldnt never return

Kulankii Baarlamaanka ee Maanta oo uu Ra'iisul wasaare Geeddi ka hor aqriyay Warqad qoraal ah oo ka timid Ethiopia
Posted to the Web May 01, 15:56


Baydhabo (PP) - Kulankii maanta ee baarlamaanka Federaalka Soomaaliya oo ahaa mid looga codsaday ra’iisul wasaaraha Soomaaliya Prof. Geeddi inuu ka jawaabo ergaygii ay dowladda Ethiopia u dirtay Somaliland ayaa wuxuu ka hor aqriyay Xildhibaannada warqad ka timid Ethiopia.

Warqaddaan ayuu Ra’iisul Wasaaraha Soomaaliya Prof. Cali Maxamed Geeddi wuxuu sheegay inay ka timid Safaaradda Somalia ay ku leedahay Ethiopia, waxaana uu sheegay inay tahay mid ka soo baxday Dowladda Ethiopia loona soo marsiiyay Safaaradda Soomaaliya.

Xubnaha Baarlamaanka ayaa intooda badan waxay maantka soo qaybgaleen kulankaan, iyadoo xubnaha ay goor hore yimaadeen goobta kulanka baarlamaanku uu ka dhaco ee ADC-da baydhabo, mana uusan jirin xildhibaan ka baaqday kulankaas, waxaana si weyn ay u sugayeen xubnaha baarlamaanka hadalka uu jeedin doono Ra’iisul wasaaraha Soomaaliya Prof. Geeddi.

Ra’iisul wasaaruhu wuxuu sheegay in qoraalkaas ka soo baxay dowladda Ethiopia ay ku caddeysay inaysan jirin wax safiir ah oo ay dowladda Ethiopia u dirsatay Somaliland, waxaana qoraalkaas ku xusnaa in Dowladda Ethiopia ay Soomaaliya u aragto mid aan kala go’i Karin iyaduna aysan kala goynayn, balse midnimadeeda ay ilaalinayso.

Sidoo kale Ra’iisul wasaaruhu wuxuu ka aqriyay qoraalkaas in dowladda Ethiopia ay taageersan tahay Soomaaliya aysanna doonayn inay kala jarto, waxaana uu sheegay inay tahay ujeeddo caddeynaysa inaysan Ethiopia doonayn inay baajiso saaxiibtiniada cusub ee Soomaaliya kala dhexeysa.

Xildhibaannada qaarkood ayaa ku tilmaamay hadalkaan uu aqriyay Ra’iisul wasaaraha Soomaaliya maanta inuu yahay mid aan sax ahayn, waxayna sheegeen in Ethiopia aysan daacad ka ahayn wax ay sheegayso.

Dhanka Kale, waxaa jiray in xildhibaannada qaarkood ay aad ugu sacab-tumeen markii uu Ra’iisul wasaare Geeddi dhameystiray aqrinta warqaddaas.

Maxamed Xuseen Jantiile
Wakiilka Puntlandpost - Mogadishu
puntlandpostmog@hotmail.com

[fagash_killer]

and now read this

WAR DEG DEG AH.

WASAARADA ARIMAHA DIBADA EE ITOOBIYA OO BEENISAY HADALKII NAFLACAARIGA AHAA EE CALI
GEEDI YEY.

AfhayeenkaWasaaradda arimaha dibada ee itoobiya miss haruna ayaa warsaxaafadeed ku
sheegtay in hadalka ka sooyeedhay cali yey inuu been abuurasho cad ku yahay dawlada
itoobiya aanay san jirana wax wara oo ay dawlada itoobiya siisay xafiisaka somalida
ee addis ababa.
Waxaanu aad uga xunahay ayay tidhi sida uu uga been abuurtay dawlada itoobiya iaga
ayaana ka jawaabi doona cida uu warkaa ka helay.

WAXAY TIDHI WAY CADAHAY SIYAASADAYADA SOMALILAND WAXAANANU LA LEENAHAY XIDHIIDH
GANACSI IYO MID SIYAASADEEDBA MANA JIRAYSO DAWLADA ITOOBIYA CID AY KALA TASHANAYSO
ARIMAHEEDA KU WAA JAHAN SOMALILAND RUN AHAANTIINA WAANU U HAMBALYAYNAYNAA DAWLADA
IYO SHACABKA SOMALILANDBA HORUMARKA ISDABA JOOGA AH EE AY MUUJIYEEN MUDDO GAABAN
WAXAANA MUDAN IN LAGU DAYDO.


TURJUME/ FUAD KAMIL ISSA
fuaadkamil@hotmail.com

[LionHeart-112]

[quote="QansaGabeyle"]No I would not allow isaaqland to break away. I want isaaqs to be part of Somalia so they can retain their subordinate status.....

quote]



Apparently, you have mistaken us for the Ma-jareer-teenka. We were never Mareexaan subordinates. You don't try to destroy your subordinates because you keep them on a short leash.

Isaaqland will never ever be under the rule of faqash or mooryaans again..EVER!

Ok, seriously, this is all the Isaaq patriotism i could mustard under the circumstances. Say more shit so i can see if i can be more isaaq.

[Homer Simpso]

well.... the issue is a breaking away republic and not this tribe or that tribe... so chill Lionheart!!!... women always take things the wrong way!!!... the question is why would you grant somaliland their independence?... gimme some constructive argument... Not hawiye this daarood this.. that isnot a good argument!!!!...

personally I have a mixed emotions as all the other somalis!!! Somaliland is part of Somalia but I think that it should be a joint decision if they want to breakaway and not only theirs..... for instance, you live with your brother in a room, can you spontanously divide the room with a wall without discussing with the brother that shares the room with you?.. no you cannot.... Somaliland have decided to breakaway without discussing with Somalia.. they took advantage of the civil war and I blame them for that!!!.. I have a very good feeling that if Somaliland have waited and worked on Somali peace, they would have got their independence granted!!!... does anyone see my point?

[LionHeart-112]

"the issue is a breaking away republic and not this tribe or that tribe"





Surely you don't believe that. If you do then you are more naive than i thought.

We call it Somaliland so that the minority tribes (inferior Dhulos, warsangeli and ghetto-biirsi) won't try to break away as well and demand their own land. Though they'd be crushed if they tried, we don't want to look like an opressive and intolerant regime. But every1 knows:

Somaliland=Isaaqland.

[Homer Simpso]

you wont be breaking away with a mentality like that walaahi....

if Guhudbiirse and Warsangeli cannot breakaway, what gives the right to breakaway.. who are you to have that previlage...

[LionHeart-112]

"you wont be breaking away with a mentality like that walaahi.... "


NEWSFLASH: WE ALREADY HAVE! Just awaiting world recognition which should come in the next year or so.

"if Guhudbiirse and Warsangeli cannot breakaway, what gives the right to breakaway"



Simple: There are more of us than they are of them. We are the majority in Somaliland aka Isaaqland. Use your brain for once. God!

[Homer Simpso]

well .. you ain the mojority of Somalia, why would we let you breakaway than!!... where are you brains.... balance things b!tch!!!....

and yes you aint recognized yet.. its been over 15 years nothing has come and nothing is gonna come.. your key to recognization is a Somali Central Government to give you its blessing and I really really anticipate a huge fight in the SOmali parliament discussing your breakaway!!!.. trust me this can lead to another civil war!!!!.. its a major issue

[fagash_killer]

homer ur missing some points when i said hawiye and darood hey why not somalia is today divided in to clanstates you can call somaliland isaaqland ore somalia hawiye ore darood land and djiboutie issa land puntland majertenia and so on so the problem of somali ppl are they believing in tribes so how can somaliland come back after the cival war somaliland did already say he were going our own way we forgived you ppl but we will never forget after siyaad barre regime collapsed on other cival war began in the south so how can we somaliland join them hey its we who created somaliweyn dont you get it we gived our hope dreams away only to save our somali brothers but what did we gained for return nothing else than bullets shit hey we had all the right to recapture somaliland if you see the marriage wont go aiit he ppl will go their own way and moving on with with their life its really that simple