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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 10:12 am
by The rebel
Then why you don't avoid what leads you such a punishment? Seems you started to fear. I think Somalizz/ Proud_Muslima's copy and paste posts did good after all. Some people harsh punishment do for them, methinks Laughing

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 10:17 am
by avowedly-agnostic
Gedo_Boy

[quote] you are trying to pass justice on Earth when you say X is going to hell and Y is going to heaven. [/quote]

Please don't attribute words that aren't mine to me. I never said such and such a person is going to heaven or hell. It's difficult for one to say that when one doesn't even believe in heaven and hell.

[quote] But hearing what you say about Islam, I'm not convinced you were ever a Muslim, I don't even know if you're a Somali. You could be one of those crusaders who are out to spread misinformation about Islam. But be careful about learning about Islam for bad intentions: [/quote]

The fact that I may or may not be Somali is irrelevant to the topic at hand. To say that I was never a Muslim is also irrelevant, although one would think that given my knowledge, it’s more probable I'm an ex-Muslim than not. You say that I “could be one of those crusaders who are out to spread misinformation about Islam." Please show me the "misinformation" I seek to spread about Islam.

Every source I've ever cited about Islam is true and accurate. You may disagree with my conclusions about Islam, but to charge that my citations are concocted or fabricated is dishonest and disingenuous. Again I challenge you to produce a single hadith or Quranic verse which you consider to be false and "misinformation"

[quote] Know that many things APPEAR to be contradictions when they are beyond the grasp of your comprehension. [/quote]

You're right there are many things about the brutal nature of allah that "appear" to one as contradictory and paradoxical. In such a situation one can foolishly continue believing in things which are incoherent, or one can do the rational thing, and adopt an agnostic world view: that is to suspend one's judgement regarding god.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 10:27 am
by COOL-MAN
[quote="Galol"]Rebel

You are a man of supreme taste and class.

Now answer the question please: Is it or is it not cruel to seperate fathers from children and fry old people for no other reason than having the `wrong' ideology?

Cool-man

So Gandhi will be beautified and made younger before thrown into hellfire? That is not cruel brother cool-man that is veritbaly focking sadistic! Istagfuruallh. The sun is shining at last I am out of here.

I am actually sad. I was hoping I will see the good side of alalh today. Instead he sounds even more scary: loose women chasing old men; cooking Gandhi; plastic surgeons from hell literally.

Subhanallah[/quote]

galol,


Allah is severe when it comes to punishment, he is also very mercifull and beneficient to mankind.

Don't stick to his punishing side only and try to explore his mercifull side and seek forgiveness.

al qur'an.

God is He, than Whom there is no other god;- Who knows (all things) both secret and open; He, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

God is He, than Whom there is no other god;- the Sovereign, the Holy One, the Source of Peace (and Perfection), the Guardian of Faith, the Preserver of Safety, the Exalted in Might, the Irresistible, the Supreme: Glory to God! (High is He) above the partners they attribute to Him.

He is God, the Creator, the Evolver, the Bestower of Forms (or Colours). To Him belong the Most Beautiful Names: whatever is in the heavens and on earth, doth declare His Praises and Glory: and He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.

wabillahi towfiiq.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 12:00 pm
by ERROR
Grant, you are right, the TV program was about that cult's leader who's now wanted by the feds. One guy on the show said something about himsnd 70 wives. I don't know if he exaggerated a bit.

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=33750

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 4:23 pm
by Demure
I think he is still fi Alqabre.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:03 pm
by Galol
Demure

Al-Qabr ater 60 years?

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:06 pm
by DamallaXagare
Only Allah knows. We cannot tell.

If he died in Budhism, he is sure in Hell.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:14 pm
by Galol
Dmalla

"allah knows"

So why answer?

Stupid people annoy me. Do they annoy you Damalla?

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:16 pm
by DamallaXagare
Laughing

But If he died in Budhism, He is sure in Hell.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:48 pm
by Galol
damxa

And you are laughing?

daft lad

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:57 pm
by Demure
Galol, Yes after sixty years. Unless Al qabr was washed away or boom al khiyaamah was sounded and we missed it.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 6:00 pm
by Galol
OK

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 8:37 pm
by Mad_Dog206
[quote="ERROR"]galol, talking about sleeping with vergies, an american cult in which adult men marry 100% teens as little as 14 yr olds were profiled on american most wanted tv program last nite. Teen boys were forced to leave the city because there are no girls left for them. This cult wich is based a small city called colorado city in (i don't remember the state) maybe omaha is so bad their leader married about 70 little girls and he still sexually abused little boys as close as his own nephews.[/quote]

watched america's most wanted didnt u?

no person can say whether ghandi is goin to hell or not. islam teaches us not to judge so we should not judge whether he went to hell or not. god knows and anyone who says whether or not he is goin to hell is committin a sin themselfs.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:19 pm
by Gacalisa
yaa rabi yaa raxmaan.

you it hurts when people say things in which they have not authurity to say. NO ONE can say that a person is in hell or is going to hell. That authority only belongs to the all might Allah.

you can off course say doing something sinfull may take you to hell, but in no way can you say someone is going to hell, or wish them to hell.

Your job is not only advice a person, by telling them to go the right way.

so the anwer to the question is Allah knows.

lets just hope he didnt dies as a Bhudist.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 11:45 pm
by DamallaXagare
Thanks for the advice Galacalisa.