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THE EVILS OF NATIONALISM (S/land/Puntland/Somalia)
Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 5:58 pm
by salafi_student
We must all unite upon Islam and with the understanding of the Salaf
Further reading ….
http://www.troid.org/articles/dawah/met ... nalism.htm
Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:07 pm
by Galol
Salafi
Aabaha magacii? Awoowga? Awoowgiis? Do you think your grandad heard of Salafism?
Do you think he was Muslim?
Thank you wa Billahi Towfeek
Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:09 pm
by Gacalisa
[salafi-student] "We must all unite upon Islam and with the understanding of the Salaf"
you just disunited not only Somalis, but all of Islam, with that.
Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:32 pm
by Cheroke
You forget Ogadenia, I concur though, If we unite things and conflicts might temper down.
Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:52 pm
by Galol
Somali Nationalism, like all Nationlisms is wrong.
Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 8:21 pm
by salafi_student
[quote="Galol"]Salafi
Do you think he was Muslim?
e.g. Awoowga? Awoowgiis?
[/quote]
The Most High said:
“When it is said to them: "Follow what Allâh has sent down." They say: "Nay! We shall follow what we found our fathers following." (Would they do that!) Even though their fathers did not understand anything nor were they guided?â€Â
The Most High said:
“And when it is said to them: "Come to what Allâh has revealed and unto the Messenger." They say: "Enough for us is that which we found our fathers following," even though their fathers had no knowledge whatsoever and no guidance. â€Â
The Most High said :
“(The warner) said: "Even if I bring you better guidance than that which you found your fathers following?" They said: "Verily, We disbelieve in that with which you have been sent."â€Â
Alhamdulilah - I'm one of those who followed as the Most High mentioned them:
"And (remember) when Ibrahîm (Abraham) said to his father and his people: "Verily, I am innocent of what you worship,"
The Most High also said:
""Except Him (i.e. I worship none but Allâh Alone) Who did create me, and verily, He will guide me.""
Gacalisa,
Clarification of the way of the salaf – go to ..
http://www.somalinet.com/forum/viewtopi ... ht=#597223Cheroke,
All muslims are included, we all have these problems everywhere..
Wabilahi Tawfiiq..
Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 12:35 am
by The Law26
First, the Somali issue is over tribalism and they share a common Somali nationality.
Secondly, you are calling Muslim to unite under the banner of Wahabism aka Salafism, and who will lead them? The bastards from the House of Saud?
I don't think these guys are capable to think for themselves any longer, the Wahabi indoctrination succeeded.
Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 12:37 am
by QansaGabeyle
Law Munaafiq, why does it bother you when people talk about islam? There is no such thing called wahabism, there is only islam and it is what you are allergic to.
Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 12:46 am
by The Law26
[quote="QansaGabeyle"]Law Munaafiq, why does it bother you when people talk about islam? There is no such thing called wahabism, there is only islam and it is what you are allergic to.[/quote]
I thought I was on your ignore list?
Salafi student wrote
"We must all unite upon Islam and with the understanding of the Salaf".
Why do we have to unite under the wahabi sect? What is the salaf?
It is hypocrites like you whose allegiance with Afweeyne, a proven Islam hater is on the records, and therefore can't distinguish what is wahabi/salafi and what is Islam. You are beyond the munaafiq stage.
Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 12:56 am
by DamallaXagare
"The Prophet (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) said: “Whosoever leaves off obedience and separates from the Jamaa’ah (united body) and dies, then he dies a death of jaahiliyyah. Whoever fights under the banner of the blind, becoming angry for ’asabiyyah (partisanship and party spirit), or calling to ’asabiyyah, or assisting ’asabiyyah, then dies, he dies a death of jaahiliyyah.†[4] Also in Saheeh Muslim (8/120), the Prophet (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) said: “Indeed Allaah has revealed to me that you should have humility, and that no one should act proudly and oppressively over anyone else, nor should anyone boast over anyone else.â€Â
And there is no doubt that the call to nationalism is a call to ’asabiyyah (partisanship and party spirit) and it is a call to becoming angry for the sake of ’asabiyyah and fighting for ’asabiyyah. And there is no doubt also, that the call to nationalism is a call to transgression, pride and arrogance, since nationalism is not a divinely revealed way of life which prevents its people from oppression and proud boasting. Rather it is an ideology from the time of jaahiliyyah which leads its people to boasting about it and having ’asabiyyah for it even if they are the oppressors and the others are the oppressed! So – O noble reader – consider this and the truth will be clear to you"
The asibiyyah" is what divides people.
Great article, very truthful and influential in many hearts.
Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 1:23 am
by QansaGabeyle
Siyad Barre is your boogeyman haye. Allah maxaa ninkaas danbigiisa la qabsani doontaa. Adigoon magaciisi soo qaadin weliba maku arkin.
ps. Your debating tactics are weak.
Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 1:25 am
by DamallaXagare
I have never seen someone who is so obsessed with Siyaad Barre like Law26. I guess he recalls some bad memories upon his family as charges to the deceased man.
Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 3:50 am
by The Law26
[quote="QansaGabeyle"]Siyad Barre is your boogeyman haye. Allah maxaa ninkaas danbigiisa la qabsani doontaa. Adigoon magaciisi soo qaadin weliba maku arkin.
ps. Your debating tactics are weak.[/quote]
Gaybeyle
Afweeyne is not the point here, salafi student posted a anti-nationalist post and called for Muslims to unite on the condition of only under the banner of the Wahabis. Though his aim was to unite the Somalis, he made a mistake to believe that tribe is xaraam, and here you come and accuse me of being an anti-Islam, when his whole post was dedicated to your tribal worshipping types who visit these pages just to diss other tribes. Join his wahabi group and cease dissing other Somali Muslims.
You are a fool, and I pity the fool.
Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 3:34 pm
by AZZAM.
salafi_bro u cant call yourself salafi that term is dividing muslims u can say i follow the salafi saalah the rightly guided companions of the prophet but u cant say your salafi cause u aint part of the sahaba, if u follow the quran and sunnah your upon the haq, usualy devients hate a certain ayah or sunnah of the prophet,, and also dont follow every scholar from saudi cause they got some corrupt once who kiss the kings ass lol
