Iraq. Where from here?

[The Law26]

This topic is not about the American invaders. Iraq is descending into civil war and whose interests is it?
I can understand Iraqi Sunnis who are resisting change at all costs because of the privileges they lost. The insurgents led by ex-Bathists Sunnis is a natural reaction to the U.S invasion. They have done very well to resist them and introduced a new warfare tactics that the Americans were never prepared for. However, there are other Arab Jihadists with a narrow view of Islam (mostly Wahabi followers), who want to transform this war as a Shia-Sunni war. Talk to any Iraqi Sunni and will tell you that. Most Jihadists come from Saudi Arabia, and if their intention is to kill Americans, aren't there many such targets in their own soil? With the consent of their government, why will they have to travel all the way to Iraq? Unlike the Iraqi Bathist insurgents, their target are not Americans, but Shia Iraqis. Everyday we witness them slaughtering Shia Iraqi’s. We don’t see similar waves of car and suicide bmbings in the markets and mosques of the Kurdish areas. Why not peace, and the invading forces will leave, and there will be no more Muslim blood split. The Shia regime which favors Iran has introduced Islamic codes and today, Iraq looks more like of an Islamic regime than under Sadam Hussein. Whose interest is the continuation of this anarchy? Or, is Iraq paralyzed by the power struggle of the two main regional players, Saudi Arabia and Iran?

Have your say.

[aaliyah_16]

ummmmmm..............
but then again there are less sunnis in iraq, iran there population has more
shi'a's but saudi arabia..............affcorse they have more sunnis........
but then again we can have our say but we cant do anything about it.......
u say why not peace............ affcorse the shi'as wana whipe out all the sunnis in there country................ i think they wont stop till that hapens

[The rebel]

I can see no one giving you any reply, so let me give some try...

First, please enter into the real world. Sunni Iraqis you met are not the completely Iraqi population, but only a few of them.

And reality is this that Shia lived and still living in complete harmony with Ahl Sunnah brothers in Iraq they both are Arab that is why we call them 'Arab Shia' and 'Arab Sunna'.

Having said that , those you’re talking about who making problems aren't even Iraqis nor Saudi they're Salafis and can be any nationality (be Afghan, Egyptian, Jordanians, Kuwaits...so on) In addition, Not only that they have declared Shias Kafir, but also for them Ahl Sunnah are also kafirs and mushriks. Also there is some of trouble makers are 'Sadameyen' or Sadam supporters from Ba'ath party.

Now coming to Iran, of course, Iran has interests in Iraq but I am afraid that even Shiasim in Iran is not as same in Iraq. While Iraqis are Ikhbaris, Iran are Osooli; hence, the same problems between Salafis and ahl Sunna are between Shia Akhbaris and Shia osoolis. They do not even have the same 'marja'a'

The things are very confusing for majority of the people but there is nothing to do with 'sects' but there is political agendas and many Iraqi neighbors trying to use it. Please consider Egypt and Gulfian interests VS Iran. As Iran wants to play a role here in Persian Gulf and I don't think Arab neighbors would allow that. Honestly, no one want to have religious Government in Iraq be it Shia or Sunni. No one wants neither second Iran nor Taliban.

As Iraq is diverse nation. I know Arab Sunna aren’t majority but the through the history we can’t ignore their roles in Iraq. They will still have upper hands, if there will be any religion government in the future. Specially Kurdish are Sunni too and Turkmans too are Sunni.

That is my two cents.

[Sir-Luggoyo]

TheLewd

Why don't you focus your energy on the iminent disaster facing your ppl instead of one Ayrab fukking another Ayrab?

Let's talk about the near combat between the Wadaado and the TNG, and the Wadaado Vs the Multinational forces to be deployed in Somalia that the TNG approved, albeit knowing that the Wadaado are against that role.


Why worry about Arab fighting Arab when your own backyard is on fire?

[zulaika]

@ Lug

I second that

[The Law26]

Lug-dhillo

You represent the evil, like Dawlad Sade aka Mad-Dog, Qaniisgabeyle and others here who support warlords like Indhocadde and their associates due to their tribal interests and coalitions, and deduce from that the warmonger theme of “my enemy’s enemy is my friend”. How they can fool anyone that Indhocadde, Dahir Aweeys, Cabdiqasim all proven warlords, whom like all warlords have connections to the last regime, are now seeking power on behalf of Islam is beyond my understanding. Neither do I care about Afbiijo and his fellow warlords, the TNG. You seem to not care about Mogadiscio, and all you worry is about the TNG. Start a foking topic and be a man enough yourself to defend Afbiijo. Even Xabashow nowadays turned to be a supporter of these people, not because they are sincere Muslims, but as a tribal grudge towards the TNG and likewise. Face him dikhead.

“I am just worried of another conflict between them and the TNG, but according to sources close to them, they are willing to negotiate and hold talks with the TNG and that rings a bell of hope for the common Somali.”

Not foking long ago, you accused me to be an Arab hater, and here you are a classic foking hypocrite like your fellow tribal Somalis on the wadaad Vs warlords/TNG issue, and spilled the beans.

http://www.somalinet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=61336

TheLewd

Why don't you focus your energy on the iminent disaster facing your ppl instead of one Ayrab fukking another Ayrab?

Let's talk about the near combat between the Wadaado and the TNG, and the Wadaado Vs the Multinational forces to be deployed in Somalia that the TNG approved, albeit knowing that the Wadaado are against that role.

Why worry about Arab fighting Arab when your own backyard is on fire?


[qoute luggooyoo]TheLewd

How did you come to that conclusion is beyond me but you are you, you deduce something from the air you breathe. Actually, on the contrary, I support the Maxkamadaha 110% and they made my day when they kicked the warlords asses. They are the closest to Somalia's redemption from the bonds and shackles of anarchy and madness, and as I mentioned in another post, I am just worried of another conflict btween them and the TNG, but according to sources close to them, they are willing to negotiate and hold talks with the TNG and that rings a bell of hope for the common Somali.

Hating every Somali is hating yourself and that ain't healthy Mr Lewd, you will die bitter, islotaed and mad

http://www.somalinet.com/forum/viewtopi ... c&start=15

Rebel

We are talking here about real politik, and many here will respond favorably and echo what the “Salafis” say about the Shias. Similarly, it was sold that way to most Shias. You intentionally portrayed Iran as the aggressor when those forces through Sadam Hussein, which caused his downfall, recently invaded them. Also, you played the Arab card when it is deeper than that and miserably attempted to absolve any Saudi connection. Where do the “Salafis” come from, and whose ideology do they follow? Read what Hosni Mubarak recently said about Shias in the Arab world.

I will write a detailed analysis once others contribute objectively, till then, don’t act like a dikhead who considers his subjective opinion as a fact.

Zulaika

Besides Basra and the athiest Somalilight, Somali girls act like they have no share or dividends in what is happening in Somalia. Their silence could only be deduced that they are more worried of the Islamic Courts than the warlords. You have something in common with Luggooyyo, and help each other to start your own post about the topic.

[The rebel]

" will write a detailed analysis once others contribute objectively, till then, don’t act like a dikhead who considers his subjective opinion as a fact".

Funny! But not too funny to me. No facts here, as I am entiteled with my opinion you also entiteled with your opinion. The only differences between us is that ; this is close to my home as I am both an Arab and Shia and I know our problems more than you. I would advice you to stick with your Somali politics as others said to you before as you know nothing about neither Shia nor Arab politics.

[Sir-Luggoyo]

Therebel

TheLewd gets his inspiration from his Arab wife, hence the sensitivity



TheLewd,

I can't figure out your mumbo jumbo, extracting segments from previous posts serving nothing, but the fact of the matter remains the same, you hate everything Somali, and I am suspecting this trend started when you married that Ayrab wifey of yours. It's a known fact, once you start taking Ayrab finger in the arse, you never go back.

I don't care who conquers who in this Somali skirmishes but who ever brings back normalcy and tranquility to the common man is the one I support regardless of clan affiliation

[Modern-poli]

Yo man, this dude is just plain idiot. He sounds so over rated with the arabs shyt. the ubsession is just insane though, there are many issue that are taking place around the world, from somalia to indonisa to india, why the hell is he stuck on arabs? My guess, is that he got fcked up the recktum with a ayrab shtick or maybe he is just plain homo arab anal lover.

Law= Love Arab Wasin

[Cheroke]

Iraq will manage well on it's own give it sometime, it's ppl will contribute to their land and make something of it once again.

We have far tragics to be concerned about, at this particular moment from endless conflicts in Somalia. Theirs in an old saying A chain is as strong as it's weakest link, And that weak link signifies u. You're too wrapped up with wahabis and all this other junk you consisting post that we're forgetting who are you and where you come from.

[Freakishly_Free]

TheLaw26


U really need to find new ways to vent out your anger and self-hatred. Snetters are simply tired of listening to your mumbo-jumbo during your pathetic sissy fits.

[The Law26]

Rebel

I presented facts not opinions. You denied any Saudi role while admitting the trouble makers in Iraq are “Salafis”? Who are the “Salafis”, and what ideology do they adhere to? Where did that philosophy come from?

Secondly, you quipped,

“The things are very confusing for majority of the people but there is nothing to do with 'sects' but there is political agendas and many Iraqi neighbours trying to use it. Please consider Egypt and Gulfian interests VS Iran. As Iran wants to play a role here in Persian Gulf and I don't think Arab neighbors would allow that. Honestly, no one want to have religious Government in Iraq be it Shia or Sunni. No one wants neither second Iran nor Taliban.”
Did the Iranians give the green light to the American invasion in Iraq? Weren’t those who supported the Americans, the same allied evil forces of Al-Saud, Egypt and the rest of Sunni Arab American lackey leaders who bankrolled Sadam Hussein to invade Iran in the 1980’s? Were they afraid of a Shia-Khmonei revolution in the Middle East/globe, or, they were avenging on behalf of their master, the Americans whom the Iranian revolution embarrassed and defeated them?

Here is what renders absolutely rubbish your Arab Shia, Arab Sunni brotherhood crap opinion, read what Hosni Mubaarak said of Arab Shias and his strong condemnation of their unwavering loyalty towards Iran which is at least-silently shared by majority of Arab-Sunnis. Someone forgot to tell that Sadaam Hussein. These are all the facts that you miserably failed to touch. As a second class Shia Arab, you show too much of a fake Arab patriot to please your Al-Saud masters who in the past have shown no tolerance except cruelty to Saudi Shias. Keep licking their shoes.

Mubarak's Shia remarks stir anger

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ ... 636C62.htm

The Dikheads

Go and foking post your usual sleaze porn like topics.

Freakishly Zulaika

Somalinet is a landfill and you think I care about a dump joint? Be your own to express your own views. Dont cry for me.

[The rebel]

Hosni Mubarak can say what he wants and he is entiteled with his opinion. I'm careless what Husni Mobarak says about Shia. I still insist nothing to do with Saudi Arabian Government with Iraq. If you want to use Shia as a weapon to attack Salafis, that wont work. Go out and fight Salafis instead bla blaing in Somalinet. None of them reading your vents here.

You are really wasting your time by talking about things you have no clue about it. I have no clue what business you have between Arab brothers in Iraq?

[The Law26]

"Hosni Mubarak can say what he wants and he is entiteled with his opinion. I'm careless what Husni Mobarak says about Shia. I still insist nothing to do with Saudi Arabian Government with Iraq."

You are trembling like to be a beheaded chicken, and I'm sure if things deteriorate further the Saudis will have that honour to do so.

"If you want to use Shia as a weapon to attack Salafis, that wont work. Go out and fight Salafis instead bla blaing in Somalinet. None of them reading your vents here."

Do you ever comprehend what you foking write? This is what you wrote above about the Salafis aka Wahabis and scrowl it up. Is it something with amnesia, or you are shit scared from Saudi authorities?

"Having said that , those you’re talking about who making problems aren't even Iraqis nor Saudi they're Salafis and can be any nationality (be Afghan, Egyptian, Jordanians, Kuwaits...so on) In addition, Not only that they have declared Shias Kafir, but also for them Ahl Sunnah are also kafirs and mushriks."

"You are really wasting your time by talking about things you have no clue about it. I have no clue what business you have between Arab brothers in Iraq?"

No, Rebella, I have heaps of clues and you havent answered any of the points that I raised, and take your mouth from your ass scared little shit boy. The Wahabis aka Salafis will get you beheaded sooner or later.

[Aiman]

Accudu Billaaali minna sharri shaytaani rajiim

Bismillah,

It is not healthy for a pure Muslim back biting our fellow brothers in Islam (Salafist aka Wahaabist e.t.c); I urge all of you who believe to stop the back biteness and the non sense talk.

Wa Salaamu Caleykum Waraxmatullaahi Wabarakaatuh