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Force Without Justice Is Tyrannical

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Force Without Justice Is Tyrannical

Postby Ureysoo » Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:51 am

"Justice without Force is powerless , and Force without justice is tyrannical"

Ever since Somalia fell into anarchy as armed mutiny clans took over power. Chaos took over as Somalia divided into splinter groups (Clans), and reached the point where even peace conferences and intervention troops wonÂ’t assist the country or the citizens howsoever. Nothing but abhorrence, prejudice and ill-treatment. The words of plea coming out of our mouth. Singing the same tear-jerking poems which been uttered by alot of other nations be4 us. (Janat Baraqisho 3ala Nafsiha).

“Civil War was so wrong
Fought 4 the cause of freedom,
Brothers turn 2 foes”

“The war was fought
Too many lives lost.
Each side was wrong and right.
But the country had 2 pay the cost”

The only dissimilarity is that most of the other nations managed 2 overcome the catastrophes and rebuild their countries. What have we done instead? Put more woods into the fire? Advocate the warlords and executioners? Well, don’t u lot think we deserve what’s happening 2 us? Only if we can turn back the clock, and make corrections 2 all the wrong deeds we committed previously, but is it possible? “No”. Why can’t we enhance the current state of affairs rather than fussing about what happened in the Past? “The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak”.

The citizens been imprisoned, tortured, assassinated and robbed. Innocent girls suffered of certain tribulations, and undergone several harassment actions. AinÂ’t that more than enough? Well, its part of the olden times now, but why should we tolerate the History 2 repeat itself? Why are we pursuing slaughterers sightlessly? No speculate, why alot of ppl are abandoning us, and determine 2 live in the west 4 ever. They are sick and tired of the continuous maltreatment. They are fed up with the increasing number of murders who are committing carnages. Those assassins are without any pang of conscience or concern whatsoever, and nothing will restrict them from achieving their targets.

“Warlords” and Islamic courts”

We all know about Warlords, so there’s no need 4 me 2 go over it again. This will leave us with Islamic courts. Are they religious ppl, or warlords who are masquerading as Islam devotees? Most of their deeds demonstrates, they are nothing but sanctimonious morons, who turned “Xamar” into “Bastille Prison”. How many souls they killed? And when they’ll stop? (Ma Ruux Beey Dileeyn Calashaan Kubad Beey Daawadeeyn. Waayo? Ma Quranka Beey Ku Dhigan Tahay Misa Shariicad “Aweyism” La Dhahayo Beey La So Baxeeyn)? “Ya Subxanallah”. U lot think they emerged out of no where? Well, they are the same heads who use 2 assist the JVA (opposition group that emerged in 2000).

On the other hand, the previous Q remains the same “Why 1 of the few nations on the continent with mostly 1 ethnic group, 1 religion, culture and language should have become swept away by a continuous civil war”???...

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Postby Basra- » Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:10 pm

'This will leave us with Islamic courts. Are they religious ppl, or warlords who are masquerading as Islam devotees? Most of their deeds demonstrates, they are nothing but sanctimonious morons, who turned “Xamar” into “Bastille Prison”. '

its so easy for you to sit there among your Irreverent fish & chips uks & start talking empty talk. Have you been in Somalia & fought for your right to speak?? No! --- so dearest irrelevant supreme queen of Idiocy--spare us this esteemed gibberish of Blair witch talk! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Postby Ureysoo » Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:07 pm

Here comes the chubby Dimwit, casting some uncalled 4 names on ppl faces. Nayaahe, Nacala Kugu Taal, donÂ’t be instigating skirmishes with me. Alongside, if u ainÂ’t got rational comments 2 add. Drag ur huge butt out of my thread, and donÂ’t let the door hit u in ur way out.

Since when u conversed about Somalia politics or is it becuz I initiated this thread, u came in running. DonÂ’t u think u developed an appetite 2 respond 2 each and every thread I start. Stick 2 ur asinine dialogues, about how bastards are so adorable, and why Helen Fielding shagged more than 1 fu.cker.

Ur comment “Have you been in Somalia & fought for your right to speak?? No!”

Lets cut the long story short. We are conversing about real life and politics, not some fictional stories about how Femme Fatale, massacred alot of soldiers and Araweelo persecuted Somali men. The majority of the Warlords in Xamar failed 2 overwhelm them, so what makes u think I’ll be capable of slaughtering them if I went 2 Xamar? Don’t u think u watched alot of “Action-Movies”. Plus, im expressing my stances in regard 2 this theme, just like u jot down a whole pages about how black ppl are foolhardy and White ppl are rich ( Don’t u consider that as mumbo jumbo)? But the difference is my thread concerns Somali ppl, while ur threads are nothing but “lil juveniles wishes 2 be sturdy or renowned” . Cilada Kugu So Dhacday Was, Shaqo Yeelo Baan Ku Irii, Inta Dadka Ka Dabo Ordeeysid, Laxdi Ku Fuushay Cun...

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Postby Aiman » Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:34 pm

[quote="Basra-"]'

its so easy for you to sit there among your Irreverent fish & chips uks & start talking empty talk. Have you been in Somalia & fought for your right to speak?? No! --- so dearest irrelevant supreme queen of Idiocy--spare us this esteemed gibberish of Blair witch talk! [/quote]


Maasha-Allah spoken like a true Muttawacah. I must admit I concur with your words Exclamation

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Postby Ureysoo » Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:01 pm

Aiman...

I never knew “Muttawaca” affronts ppl, or uses odious comments 2 justify their opinions. Is that ur definition of “Muttawaca”?. I would like 2 sight u expressing ur views and stating ur outlook, rather than concurring with every absentminded individual who jots down any remark. Well, I scribbled down my perspective, its ur turn now. Either prove me wrong or restrain from coming back with ineffectual comments. “Deal”. U can ask Basra 2 assist u...

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Postby Aiman » Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:19 pm

[quote="Ureysoo"]"Justice without Force is powerless , and Force without justice is tyrannical"

Ever since Somalia fell into anarchy as armed mutiny clans took over power. Chaos took over as Somalia divided into splinter groups (Clans), and reached the point where even peace conferences and intervention troops wonÂ’t assist the country or the citizens howsoever. Nothing but abhorrence, prejudice and ill-treatment. The words of plea coming out of our mouth. Singing the same tear-jerking poems which been uttered by alot of other nations be4 us. (Janat Baraqisho 3ala Nafsiha).

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And yet the Islamic Court brought Law and Order in Mogadisho and what they get from the Qabiil infested group "oh they are extremist they want to make Somalia like a Taliban state" and from the Zionist media and its kuffar counterpart what they say (ofcourse is no suprise from them because they abhor hatred towards Islam hence "war on terror") "the Somali Islamist harboring Al Qaeda it is a safe heaven for the "terrorist"" e.t.c.



[quote="Ureysoo"]Aiman...

I never knew “Muttawaca” affronts ppl, or uses odious comments 2 justify their opinions. Is that ur definition of “Muttawaca”?. I would like 2 sight u expressing ur views and stating ur outlook, rather than concurring with every absentminded individual who jots down any remark. Well, I scribbled down my perspective, its ur turn now. Either prove me wrong or restrain from coming back with ineffectual comments. “Deal”. U can ask Basra 2 assist u...

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Since the individuals who are against the Islamic Court (for whatever motivation is) and no matter what I argue they won't listen and don't want to cat fight with you....so I thought I should let my Secretary Muttawacah Basra to take care of you. It is a Princinple of the Muttawaciin when it consist of lady cat fight we shall direct you one when it comes to a man fight then it is an honor for a fellow man to Karbaash.


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Postby Ureysoo » Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:17 pm

Aiman....

Ur comment “And yet the Islamic Court brought Law and Order in Mogadisho and what they get from the Qabiil infested group.”

What peace u are conversing about Ninyahow? Ever since they started their movement again. Death rates amplified in horrifying way, terror took over the city and pseudo Warlords (Known as Wadaads/Islamic courts) started 2 masquerade as Islam devotees?. 2 the point they started 2 sacrifice souls 4 the fun of it. What do u consider the case of the Somali ppl who been massacred 4 watching football game as? Where in the Shari’a it says those who watches football, should be singled out 2 chastisement (Capital punishment, which is death). Talking about the heinous Clans-motivated individuals. What makes u think Islamic Courts are better than them? War Heedhe, do u reside inside a cave? Didn’t u watch them on “Universal Channel” a UK made Somali channel, where their ladies were screaming their clans monikers be4 Allah’s name, holding guns on their hands. Is that what u call righteous ppl. Every.1 is seeking his/her interest in Somalia and these courts wants 2 win praiseworthy situates. But think about the side-effects which the citizens will counter as result!!!. They’ll be a feeble target 4 bush and his ilk. Alongside, In which chapter of the Quran, it says u are tolerated 2 open fire on every stranger that cross the threshold 2 ur country? Wasn’t that what they did 2 the innocent Swedish man who was working 4 British channel? Did the prophet (peace be upon him) did that. “No”.

Beside, since when Warlords Like “Indho Cadde” were considered as “Islam Devotees”? They woke up, and found the spiritual angel, cleaning their hearts out of filth, belligerence and odium?. Mull over ur thoughts again Mr. Sheekadan Camal “Alf Leyla Wu Leyla Xataa Ma Ka Dhicin”.

On the other hand, Not long time ago, these so called Islamic Courts (JVA) ferociously crossed the threshold 2 Kismayo committing mass executions, raping, and burglarizing. What kind of religious person will do that?. ItÂ’s obvious that they are nothing but simulating opponents, who uses Islam 2 accomplish their goals, while they are gathering as much as donation 2 subsidies their establishments rather than assisting poverty-stricken ppl, plus supplying their fellow tribesmen with weapons. DonÂ’t u think so? Well, most of what the did, illustrates that.

They are worst than the Warlords, atleast the worlds are not using IslamÂ’s name 2 conceal their filth. Apparently, they canÂ’t keep the truth under wraps, and soon or later theyÂ’ll be exposed among the Somali media.

Cat Fight?

U canÂ’t argue, but u can cheerlead Sumaha Ninyahow. And bear in ur mind, that I donÂ’t infuriate ppl, unless they did that 2 me...
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Postby The Law26 » Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:46 pm

Ureeyso

Brilliant topic and we reached a Mad Max stage where war, ignorance, oppression and poverty have reduced Somalis to the level of unworthiness and those leaders will exploit such tragedy and justify their actions on religion. Istaqfurrallah.

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Postby Ureysoo » Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:16 pm

TheLaw...

War Ninyahow, Maxaad Aragtay, Waxa So Socdo Ba Kasii Daran. Kuwaan Wadaadu Ba Dhahday Bani Adam Xataa Ma Aha...

It would have been much better if its matter of “ignorance and poverty” only, becuz we can overcome these off-putting points straightforwardly. By encouraging them 2 study, 2 increase the level of their knowledge. Trade with other countries, or sign contracts with them 2 assist us 2 use our natural resources effectively (Oil in particular). Although it requires some energy and time, we can accomplish these targets. But how can we overcome totalitarianism, and continuous wars? How can we enhance the current state of affairs, when certain elites are using terror and force, concentration camps and political police 2 maintain order and conformity? How can we stop them when they are practicing monopoly control over everything 2 maintain total conformity?. This is exactly what Islamic Courts are doing.

Obviously, all the points which I mentioned will advocate warfare, since there are no way that the Citizens and particular Warlords will endure such a thing. Which will bring more civil wars and anarchy.

Walle, I can’t understand why Somali ppl are supporting them. Seriously, a burnt child “should” dreads fire, and Somalis knows what happened 2 them previously. But yet again they are asking 4 more mayhem and tribulations. There’s always a “Cause” and “Consequences” 4 every misfortune that ensues. And the cause of the civil war which we are yet 2 witness would be “Choosing Islamic Courts” as leaders, and the Consequences would be “The end of Somalia”.

Basically, their chosen name is causing mystification. Ppl thinks they are righteous individuals, while they are nothing but sanctimonious morons. How can they slaughter ppl 4 watching football? Since when it was forbidden? ThatÂ’s what I call BidÂ’a (Innovation act). They presuppose what they done has Islamic validity when in fact it doesnÂ’t. Ya Subxanallah, donÂ’t they know its prohibited 2 kill an innocent soul, 4 no reason, especially when they are unsure of it, and the ShariÂ’a didnÂ’t teach us such a thing?

The teachings of Islam opposes “theocracy”. In which Allah warned us against establishing a religious classes and affirmed that no.1 has the legitimacy or authority 2 claim that they got direct access 2 His will after the death of the Prophet (PBUH). In “Surat Al-Tuwbah” (9:31-34), so where are these individuals coming from, interfering and killing ppl 4 not praying. I think that issue concerns Allah and his creature. Each person should worry about his/her own deed...

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Postby kambuli » Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:19 pm

Ureyso,

How are you Smile

I do not think that anybody was killed for not praying... This is a pure propaganda from the enemy of our Religion....

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Postby Ureysoo » Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:25 pm

Kambuli...

Wa Nabad Qaba sis, Sup with u... Smile

Beside, what makes u think they didnÂ’t?. Since they are crossing the threshold 2 every city assassinating in cold blood and robbing the poor citizens. They killed them 4 watching football Iska Daa Wax Kaley...

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Postby kambuli » Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:30 pm

Walaal,

Maybe kuwa ku hoos dhuumanaya ee markii hore ahaa mooryaanta, ee haddeer raadinaya Cumaamadda. laakiin how is it possible for an Allaah fearing person to do such a heinous act? Is your source of information reliable Surprised
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Postby COSTA » Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:30 pm

I was on my way to Mogadishu to join the Islamic Malitia now you making me to hesitate

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Postby Ureysoo » Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:45 pm

Kambuli...

Kuwa Ku Hoos Dhumaanayeen, Ba Ila Iyo Hada Wato Sheekada. Waxaad Ka Fahmi Karta Indho Cadde Ba Sheikh Lu Aqoonsaday. Kuligood JVA movement Beey Ku Jireeyn, Ee Sii Fiican Beey Isku Yaqaanan. Tuugo Tuugo Dhalay Waaye. Tan Kale Marki Xamar Galeeyn Dadka Sidee Oo Dileeyn Baad Aragtay, Iskaba Daay Dagaalki Xuma Ii Kismayo Ku Qadeeyn Bari Hore. Marka ma Xiligaan Ba Igu Dhaheysiin Malaak Ba Kuso Dagay Oo Ilahay Ba Hanooniyay, Malinti Iyo Habeenkeeyd Dhaxdeeyda?. Qof Naf Hada Ka Hor Dilay, Marka Labaad Wu Sameeyna.

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