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Clash w/ Syria AND/OR Iran: Self-Fulfilling Prophecy
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:03 am
by Gedo_Boy
I think the Syrians/Iranians are looking at what happened in Iraq and have decided that they would eventually be targeted regardless of what they do.
Because Saddam Hussein was no threat to anybody, but still years of crippling sanctions & isolation was put in place to 'prepare the ground' for an invasion.
Now, we are starting to hear the 'sanction calls' for Syria and it feels like deja vu all over again.
And hoping he could be provoked into a serious blunder like attacking Saudia Arabia or Kuwait or the Gulf, the people just kept waiting in the wings.......praying for a reason. That's why things were constantly done like no-fly zone strikes, mini air campaigns, funding uprisings & general instability while air cover was provided etc.
So, I think the Syrians/Iranians (more so the Iranians) have learned the lesson from that war and came to the conclusion that if an invasion is forthcoming regardless of what they do (short of total surrender of sovereignty), then they are going to poise for it and face it head on as Iran has indicated it will do.
The funny thing is Syria was recruited for the 1st Gulf war, and now it looks like it will bite them in the butt. It seems like only the Iranians know how to make the right chess moves for the long-term. They come off as more intelligent and shrewd than the Syrians, or at least more disciplined & ideologically motivated.
And the North Koreans have effectively been taking the hardline "If you want war, then let's do this Sh#@ttttt" and it has been proven to be quite effective. Ofcourse though, you just can't be bluffing. You have to be ready and willing to really put it all on the line.......and I'm not sure people can read North Korea accurately.....so everybody's cautious. But judging from the sacrifices they have made thus far, it seems that they are more than ready to take the war road, especially considering they don't have much of a lifestyle or a standard of living to lose.......unlike their brothers in South Korea.
Besides, it's not the Middle East.......and the immediate near to mid future goal is to eradicate Islam and establish Israeli/Zionist hegemony in the region.
The Asians are no imminent threat, first off cause it's China's sphere of influence and economics & nukes will force a diplomatic resolution with North Korea.
Plus, if worst comes to worst, the US can OK the Japanese to make nuclear weapons as an effective deterrent against North Korea and rid themselves of having to police what is increasingly becoming China's sphere of influence.
So, I'm guessing the Japanese are more than capable financially & economically and could have it within a matter of years.......probably with better reliability & gas mileage too

So, if the US has to choose, they will definitely place their resources on the Middle East b/c this fighting 3 fronts stuff has proven to be unsustainable and they can't go halfway with the North Koreans.....Beijing, Seoul & Tokyo wouldn't let the US get too 'cowboy' in its own backyard.
The Middle East is reaching a turning point in the next several decades and the threat of Islamic resurgence in the Middle East is causing a lot of sleepless nights for Zionists. There's no way that Asia & the Middle East are equally important for the Zionists.
I think this is why the Iranians are pursuing the nuclear weapons unconditionally and why they are trying to establish strong ties with North Korea, who could use Iran's financial assistance. They are more or less in the same boat for different reasons, so I think they feel for them mutual cooperation is essential.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:10 am
by Gedo_Boy
So, my prediction:
War in the Middle East. Specifically on Syria next.
Diplomacy in North Korea.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:23 am
by michael_ital
Syria lost a LOT of it's brains, it's shrewdness and it's balls when the old man died. The kid is in a tough position trying to fill old man Assad's shoes. I just wonder if they can be as formidable a foe now as they were in the 80's and 90's. Insha'Allah they are, because SOMEone needs to be able to counter the Israeli ground force strength.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:57 am
by Gedo_Boy
Syria is definitely next to be targeted........but in this world of unintended consequences, if Israel decides to attack Syria prematurely, it could easily spiral out of control.
I'm sure there are people in Syria telling the kid that if Israel succeeds in it's Lebanon objectives, then the heat will turn up on Syria. However, if Syria makes Lebanon painful for Israel, then Israel will not posture for war and the US will have to make diplomatic concessions for Syria to prevent Syria from taking advantage of the momentum of Israel being caught btwn a rock & a hard place in Lebanon.
The US has already willingly forfeited the active diplomatic role it used to have as well as the little faith it had in the Arab street.
Sure, they are happy at the statements coming from the Gulf & Egypt, but those governments are already fragile enough as it is.........if things continue to simmer then those regimes may also go like a house of cards too.
But if history is any guide for us, then these are not good times.
There is always a flurry of meaningless diplomacy before major conflicts, forget WW I & II, just look at the last Gulf war, all those UN meetings & deadlines, inspections & resolutions........all while Bush was ordering mobilization & a planned invasion.
The 'WMDs' Bush used are the '2 Israeli soldiers' that Ehud Olmert is using.......nothing more nothing less.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:23 am
by Steeler [Crawler2]
Syria knows it is going to be hurt economically if it continues to support Hamas and Hezbollah. Word is on the street.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:49 am
by fagash_killer
i dont think that syria will be attacked, isreal just want to show their power, while they are warning iran and syria, remember that hezbollah is seen as a rebelgroup ore puppet slaves of iran and syria, what isreal is trying to do is trying to weakend the hezbollah, and they are trying to destroy the goverment cuss hezbollah was for the first time part of the goverment, and their president is backed by syria, they could had maybe sucdeed that but they didnt sucdeed yet, cuss isreal has embrassed them selfs hezbollah is still standing, The invasion begins tonight and now will the Israelis, mostly young men who don't even want to go there, see just what awaits them. The Lebanese Army itself, Lebanese Druze militia group, sunni militia group, Islamic Amal(muqawama), and moslty.......HEZBOLLAH backed with Iranian Forces!!!!!!!
while the rockets are still flying in to the zionist state, the only thing those evil zionist are good in are killing innocent ppl
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:05 am
by Steeler [Crawler2]
Some analysts have questioned the proportionality of Israel's response
to
>kidnapped soldiers and the barrage of missiles from Lebanon.
>
>Israel did what any other state would. It took measures to protect its
>citizens. Why not ask how forcefully America would respond to missile
>attacks from Mexico? Or France, to bombardment from Italy?
>
>Israel has no territorial dispute with Lebanon. There have been no
Israeli
>troops in Lebanon since 2000. We left Gaza completely a year ago.
>
>The period following Israel's withdrawal should have been a time when
the
>nascent Palestinian government focused on internal politics, promoting
>development and investment. Gaza could have been the seedling for a
>Palestinian state. But terrorist groups like Hezbollah and Hamas do
not
>voluntarily surrender their weapons.
>
>So Hezbollah, with strong encouragement from Iran and Syria, continued
-
>and
>continues - to operate. Lebanon has failed to control them and so
violates
>UN Resolution 1559, calling for the deployment of the Lebanese Army in
the
>south to disarm and control Hezbollah.
>
>Hezbollah is firing rockets and missiles at unprecedented levels, and
>targeting major cities like Safed, Tiberias and Haifa, Israel's
>third-largest city.
>
>Israel has responded with restraint. This cannot be said strongly
enough.
>Unlike the terrorists Hamas and Hezbollah, who aim to perpetrate a
maximum
>of harm upon civilians, Israel has directed far less than the full
power of
>her arsenal at these provocations.
>
>Since Hezbollah missiles are usually stored and launched from family
homes
>(who receive "rent" from Hezbollah), Israel drops flyers over areas it
>plans
>to target, warning residents to leave. It sees civilian casualties as
a
>tragic and unavoidable cost of war, not as its purpose.
>
>Seeing as there is no territorial dispute between Israel and Lebanon,
why
>has Hezbollah launched its assault? Because Iran hopes to divert
attention
>from its own activities. Because the Syrians hope to keep the region
in a
>state of conflict.
>
>It's time for the Lebanese government to step in, deploy troops and
take
>control of the southern border. The Israeli Defense Force's operations
have
>weakened Hezbollah and made way for the Lebanese government to act
like the
>independent and sovereign country it hopes to be.
>
>The international community also must act. Leaders at the recent G-8
summit
>made a good beginning, calling for the return of the Israeli soldiers
in
>Gaza and Lebanon unharmed and an end to the shelling of Israeli
territory.
>
>Now, the UN should push for the immediate implementation of Resolution
>1559.
>At the same time, it must demand the release of the hostage soldiers.
>
>Once our goals are achieved, Israel will search once more for a
partner in
>dialogue. We want to live in peace with our neighbors, but we cannot
allow
>terrorists to endanger our citizens and way of life.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:51 am
by QansaGabeyle
I just can not wait for the day Israel gets nuked. Every muslim should dedicate his life to destroying israel. You just can not imagine how much hate the jews have for all muslims, regardless of race or ethnicity.
Islam's biggest enemy is not Israel but the western nations, especially America and Britian. Without them, Israel would have existed and would not behave the way it does, bombing cities and intentionally killing innocent civilians that are busy trying to make a living so they can feed their children.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:24 pm
by Basra-
[quote="QansaGabeyle"]
are busy trying to make a living so they can feed their children.[/quote]
Arab Children???
Qansa u have to support Depopulation! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:01 am
by Steeler [Crawler2]
QansaGabeyle
"I just can not wait for the day Israel gets nuked. Every muslim should dedicate his life to destroying israel. You just can not imagine how much hate the jews have for all muslims, regardless of race or ethnicity."
Hope you are ready to see the retaliation that goes with it. Mecca, Medina, Tehran, Qom - gone. Israel would most assuredly nuke them too.
"Islam's biggest enemy is not Israel but the western nations, especially America and Britian. Without them, Israel would have existed and would not behave the way it does, bombing cities and intentionally killing innocent civilians that are busy trying to make a living so they can feed their children. "
Do you really think that's what's going on? You are aware that Hizbollah is a guerilla movement which hides its weapons and its personnel amongst the civilian population of Lebanon right?
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:32 am
by Gedo_Boy
MAD MAC,
It's not going to get to nukes.
You know as well as I do that the whole Middle East is liable to fall like a house of cards at a moment's notice.
This world is full of unintended consequences.......and the Zionists felt that they were sufficiently powerful to start making some power moves.......Lebanon being the first one.
From the assasanation of Rafik Hariri to Syria pulling out to Israel re-entering Lebanon..........just 1 year

what a pure coincidence.
But you probably don't care cause you hate Muslims AND Zionists.
But ask yourself this, you know the demographics, you say things like Egypt & Saudi Arabia condemn Hezbollah.......but in that part of the world, an official govt statement is essentially the leader's view.
Where it really matters, that region is on the brink now more than ever........and if Israel is requesting more laser guided bombs for just 1 week on helpless tourist-village Lebanon, what do you think is gonna happen if the conflict widens to Iran, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia?
The correct answer is who know?
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:39 am
by Luckyy
Fac face aka Mad cow
When will u ever realised ur opinion doesnt count in Somalinet? I know u r too tick to notice that............but Bush cow let me remind u this....
Israel attack's in Lebnnon it is bcz Yankee Bastards r too coward to attack Syria or Iran.. so they got 2 use their cowardl Zionist Slaves aka Jews Idiots as usuall to die for 'em

.oh god, I thought it is so clear to even Bush cows like u...Obviously NOT

....now go n get busy in
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:54 am
by Gedo_Boy
Luckyy,
Truth be told, Americans are 10x braver than the Israeli troops would ever be.
If significant ground troops were required, you would see Americans having to go in on behalf of Israel.
Israel would only go in when the odds are 1000:1 in their favor.
"And verily, you will find them (the Jews) the greediest of mankind for life and (even greedier) than those who - ascribe partners to Allâh (and do not believe in Resurrection - Magians, pagans, and idolaters, etc.). Everyone of them wishes that he could be given a life of a thousand years. But the grant of such life will not save him even a little from (due) punishment. And Allâh is All-Seer of what they do."
13. Verily, you (believers in the Oneness of Allâh - Islâmic Monotheism) are more awful as a fear in their (Jews of Banî An-Nadîr) breasts than Allâh. That is because they are a people who comprehend not (the Majesty and Power of Allâh).
14. They fight not against you even together, except in fortified townships, or from behind walls. Their enmity among themselves is very great. You would think they were united, but their hearts are divided, that is because they are a people who understand not.
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:55 am
by Steeler [Crawler2]
Gedo
I don't hate Muslims or Zioinists. As long as they mind their own buisiness. It is when they start making their buisiness my buisiness that they get on my nerves. Now, while I don't hate them, I do think they are idiots. Because they are. And any unbiased observer sitting back and watching would draw the same conclusion.
The entire Arab political system could collapse, we would have to send in troops to secure the oil production facilities (thankfully on the coast), and they could kill each other with abandon, and I wouldn't miss a minutes sleep over it.
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:04 am
by Gedo_Boy
Read the 3 verses above..........this would be enough to know the Quran is the truth.
The IDF bombards Southern Lebanon to rubble, rolls in with enough mechanized armor to take the US east coast and then give military interviews .
Putin looks meaner than the IDF.