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The British Terror Plot Hoax

Postby Gedo_Boy » Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:02 pm

This article explains how impossible it would be for the kids to pull off the alleged terror plot.

Chemistry PhDs realize this is absurd

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/17 ... rror_labs/

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Postby biko » Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:14 pm

if what they saying has an ounce of truth, how come they didnt put the undergrounds in critical alert? i mean if its that easy to make the product by just mixing stuff, whats stoping those people to use it in the underground where their is no real security checks?

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Postby Gedo_Boy » Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:25 pm

Whenever Blair or Bush is in trouble...they stir up another terror plot


Bush: Tony, it's hittin the fan again. You know what we gotta do.
Blair: Yeah, well this time it's gotta be by the air.
Bush: OK Tony, Heads or Tails
Blair: Tails
Bush: Heads, You Lose. That means the next plot's in London.

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Postby Cawar » Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:59 pm

I was skeptical from the get go of this news...It just didnt make sense.

And they took my eye drops at the airport in the name of security.


Check this one as well:

http://somalinet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=69218

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Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:28 am

Why is it that people and the media can never wait for the facts to come out and fo investigations to be completed? They always have to speculate. It's like this JonBenet case. Maybe they have the right guy, maybe not. There are some indications he's nuts and there are some indications that he might not have been in Colorado at the time of the slaying. But the media is just stroking it for all it's worth. And why? Because people want to read about this shit. It's amazing.

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Postby +chilli » Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:23 am

investigations and the truth are nothing next to the mass media.
have you noticed how what the media plots or amilfies stays in public opinion much longer then a alleged truth or conlusion of a investigation.

London needed some attention, or maybe it was Blair's last chance to hold on to his position.

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Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:36 am

Chilli
There is no way this was fabricated. Now, it might turn out that the investigation reveals that there was no plot. That's possible. We'll have t wait and see how things look when the details emerge. But that doesn't mean malfeasance, as you imply. It just means that all the information wasn't available from which to draw complete conclusions and the authorities erred on the side of caution - which I would want them to do. You got to have a little more faith in your leaders.

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Postby +chilli » Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:11 am

This new notion of ‘act before you think’ that the British government has formed is not winning the government any points, they are just creating themselves a web and keep tripping on it.
Its rather absurd and really illogical that for the steps the MI5 took that there was no ‘complete information to draw conclusion from’.
This is not the first time they made a great ‘mistake’; they don’t come out of nowhere. And Blair is far from innocent, but he might be paranoid. What is your explanation on his bombardment of domestic legislation to target an invincible enemy?
His attacking civilians and undermining his own beloved democracy.
WhatÂ’s even worst is he creating tension and segregation within Britain, I donÂ’t have any faith in him.

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Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:52 am

"This new notion of ‘act before you think’ that the British government has formed is not winning the government any points, they are just creating themselves a web and keep tripping on it. "

The name of the game is not to win points. It is to keep people from getting blown up on airliners.

"Its rather absurd and really illogical that for the steps the MI5 took that there was no ‘complete information to draw conclusion from’."

It's not absurd at all. In the buisiness of preventive counter-terrorist action you are never going to have a complete picture. Imagine if this threat was real, and the authorities sat on it because they didn't have a complete picture, and 10 airliners got blown up. There would be a hue and cry that the government had information but failed to warn people. And rightfully so.

"This is not the first time they made a great ‘mistake’; they don’t come out of nowhere. And Blair is far from innocent, but he might be paranoid. What is your explanation on his bombardment of domestic legislation to target an invincible enemy?"

First of all we don't know if there was a mistake. And Blair was likely not in the decision making process, but rather informed as the situation developed. The legislation is obvious. Is it not clear to you that Al Qaeda and like minded extremists are targetting the British public? Or do you think the attack on the Underground last year was a British government plot?

"His attacking civilians and undermining his own beloved democracy.
WhatÂ’s even worst is he creating tension and segregation within Britain, I donÂ’t have any faith in him."

He's in a difficult position. The problem is that Muslims place their religion ahead of their loyalty to the state. And unfortunately, some Muslims believe they have a religious obligation to attack the state and its citizens. While it is obviously a minority, the threat is real. What would you have him do? He has to take action to safeguard the welfare of his citizens.

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Re: The British Terror Plot Hoax

Postby dhuusa_deer » Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:49 pm

[quote="Gedo_Boy"] Chemistry PhDs realize this is absurd

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/17 ... rror_labs/[/quote]


But you're not a PhD Chemist, no 1 on these boards has shown PhD-level competency in Chemistry... so, how helpful is this article in getting to the nitty-gritty of this foiled terror plot?

All this article does is raise doubts about British legal system... the insinuation being pushed is the British (in cahoots with the US) cooked up this terror plot so they can chalk up the rap on innocent muslims. Anyone who believes such nonsense is total loony! I mean, what evidence or reasons do you have to suspect the Brits would fabricate a bomb plot so they can place the blame on muslims other than wild conjectures of your warped mind and spurrious "evidence" that won't cut the mustard? The things you guys blind yourself to belief, lets face it you all know this is all load of hogwash, fails all words.


Anyways... the news today is 11 charged. Also, there is a news of the existance of Martyrdom tapes and BOMB MAKING MATERIAL. The more we know of this plot, the more it bears indistinguishable resemblances to other Islamic terror plots. All the hallmarks are there.

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Postby dhuusa_deer » Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:51 pm

11 charged in British airline bomb plot

By JENNIFER QUINN, Associated Press Writer 1 minute ago

LONDON - Police found martyrdom videos and bomb-making components during the investigation of the alleged plot to blow up U.S.-bound jetliners, prosecutors said Monday in announcing 11 people had been charged with terrorism offenses.
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Officials confirmed for the first time that the plot involved the manufacture of explosives, which were to be used to assemble and detonate bombs inside as many as 10 airliners. U.S. officials previously had said the plot appeared to involve mixing liquid-based chemicals to make explosives aboard the aircrafts.

One person was released from custody Monday and police continued to interrogate 11 others who remain "under active investigation," lead prosecutor Susan Hemming said.

Those charged were scheduled to appear in court Tuesday morning, but because of the seriousness of the accusations, it was unlikely bail would be granted.

The briefing by police and prosecutors lasted less than eight minutes, but provided more information than had been released in the 11 days since the alleged plot was first disclosed and air travel out of Britain was thrown into turmoil.

They said investigators had found bomb-making materials — including hydrogen peroxide and electrical components — and seized more than 400 computers and 200 cell phones in nearly 70 searches.

More than 8,000 items used for data storage, such as compact discs, DVDs and memory sticks, were reported found. Maps of
Afghanistan, suicide notes from willing terrorists and books on explosives also were seized, officials said.

"We have also found a number of video recordings — these are sometimes referred to as martyrdom videos," said Assistant Deputy Commissioner Peter Clarke, who heads the Metropolitan Police's anti-terrorism unit. "This has all given us a clearer picture of the alleged plot."

According to dates given by prosecutors, the plot could have begun last year.

The details of the charges against one man, Mehran Hussein, allege he had information that could have prevented a terrorist act and didn't disclose it sometime between Sept. 23, 2005, and Aug. 10, 2006 — the day police announced breaking up the plot.

In all, eight people were charged with conspiracy to commit murder and preparing acts of terrorism. One person, a 17-year-old, was charged with possession of articles that could be used to prepare a terrorist act and two people were charged with failing to disclose information that could help prevent a terrorist act.

Nine of those charged were from London, according to a Bank of England list of suspects whose assets were frozen following the arrests. Two were from High Wycombe, 30 miles northwest of London.

Officials at the briefing did not mention links between the alleged plotters and any particular group, and reporters were not allowed to ask questions.

Pakistani authorities have linked several people arrested there in the alleged bomb conspiracy to al-Qaida militants both in Pakistan and in neighboring Afghanistan, where Islamic militants are fighting the U.S.-backed government.

Among those being interrogated in Pakistan is Rashid Rauf, a Briton of Pakistani descent who officials in the South Asian nation say played a key role in the plot. His brother, Tayib, who was videotaped at a grocery story in Birmingham just hours before he was arrested Aug. 10, was not among those charged.

British investigators have until Wednesday to decide how to proceed with the 11 people still held without charges. Police could file charges, release them or ask a judge to grant more time for questioning.

Police said the investigation was "far from complete," saying it would continue for months.

"All the data will be analyzed," Clarke said. "There will be thousands of forensic examinations and comparisons. Fingerprints, DNA, electronic data, handwriting comparisons, chemical analysis and indeed the full range of forensic disciplines will be used."

After British officials announced they had foiled the alleged plot, tighter security was immediately imposed at airports around the world. Passengers were banned from carrying hand luggage and liquids onto planes.

Britain's air transportation network, in particular, was plunged into chaos, with long lines jamming airport terminals and many airline flights canceled. By Sunday, airport officials said the situation was busy but had begun to return to normal.

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Postby DANGIRL » Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:02 pm

Perhaps President Bush and Prim Minister Blair are stirring up anti-Muslim sentiment in the world.But the truth is that will not work.

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Postby ariel sharon » Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:02 pm

shalom

do u think dere r no terrorists? da danger is real and dere r savages out dere who hate freedom and love like taliban style governments everywhere. if u dont like da west, go back 2 somalia.

shalom

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Postby DANGIRL » Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:22 pm

The real terrorists that i know are Bush and Blair. Btw...Sharon how's your well-being holding it up for you? Last time i remembered things were getting.Could it be when you reacted after hearing the news that Hizbollah won the war? Laughing

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Postby ariel sharon » Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:25 pm

shalom

80% of arabs and pashtuns r terrorists. u eider join da peace loving ppl or dose arab and pashtun terrorists.

shalom


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