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1man,

When it comes to religion, this kufr piglet represents only himself. I don't represent or espouse any Christian denomination. Your argument is with the Vatican, this Pope and Christians at large.

I have a good idea what their argument will be, but I will not make it for them.

[quote="1nemansquad"]DD, hang around and see me employ a debate with that Grant piglet who it appears that has more value than your dark-gaal a$$[quote]

You can't debate your way out of wet paper bag let alone debate a "piglet" like Grant. Who do you think you're fooling here?

Empty bravados, lots of chest beatings, bombastic rants, polemics, the whole gamut are what we've come to expect from muslims of this site and in general. Anything and everything of help to a muslim in avoiding dealing with the truth -- from psychological profiles to zoologising their percieved enemies -- is surefire to turnup in any debate. Quite common trait among ppl so embroiled and tangled up with their own net of mysticism and paranoia... but muslims take the cake in that they let their wet dreams, darkest fears, insecurities, bigotry etc come to the fore during the coarse of any debate. As we've seen here in abundance with the minion 1mansquad.

Like to also point out something that was repeatedly grumbled about by muslims here on this site. The oft repeated complaint was Kaafirs weren't interested in honest debates/discussion regarding Islam. Our aim was to denigrate Islam. If not subtely than conspicuously. Continuing to engage us was not only futile effort but betrayal to the rank-and-file.

My take on that whole affair was the one I hold now: pure baloney. Just another excuse in litany of excuses by muslims to avoid dealing with meaty subjects. It didn't take long before my opinion was backed up by behaviour of muslims... lo and behold, before long, non-muslims who broached perfectly innocuous questions where rebuffed with slurs and the rest of the stock replies we've come to expect. And this is what we got from 1mansquad... ANOTHER data point in a long series of data points about muslims inability to rationally and politely debate those they disagree with.




[quote]i deny to acknowledge you[/quote]

Among the many REAL and TRUE things you refuse to acknowledge, this is a one that's least harmful to both you and the world. As such, I can live with it.

[quote="dhuusa_deer"]

I find muslim's non-ending complaints about the Crusades funny. Crusaders were taking back what was wrongly taken from them by muslims crusaders. How do you justify one and berate the other.

Crusaders for example invaded sicily to overthrow muslims rule. But Sicily was NEVER muslim, muslims invaded it even though it was an ISLAND and posed no threat whatsoever to anyone.[/quote]

dd, I am amused by your comments there. You actually believe that crusaders were getting back what was taken from them? That is the most outrageous comment IÂ’ve ever heard. I suppose you would argue the other crusades (pre-Islam) against pagans were also to get back what was taken from them.

[quote="eyes-only"] You actually believe that crusaders were getting back what was taken from them? [quote]

Why yes and you should as well since it's the truth. ALL the muslim ruled lands Crusaders invaded were former Christians lands that muslims previously conquered. If it's ok for muslims to invade and occupy christian lands by force, why can't the christians fight back? Why the double standards.



[quote]That is the most outrageous comment IÂ’ve ever heard. [quote]

Then, you must not have heard a lot. Consider this your baptism, you'll hear alot of shocking and outrageous things from me.

EXCELLENT COMPARISON

Grant, your still a piglet

DD, you wouldnÂ’t know the truth even if it was shoved to you up in the arse and you know what else, every time you post an argument, it burns if self out faster than a whoooore* in church

Its awfully persuasive to supply you your personal (xaar) which is theoretically your medication but refuse to acknowledge you as a human being; you plainly do not merit the designation

Poor DD. I see you are still around, begging for attention. I still strongly believe that you left Islam because of your inability to anyone or anything. I wonder what made you this way..neglectful parents?early childhood trauma involvind your father?

Be honest with yourself. U aren't here to debate the isuse either. You just need people to interact with.

[quote="1nemansquad"] DD, you wouldnÂ’t know the truth even if it was shoved to you up in the arse and you know what else, every time you post an argument, it burns if self out faster than a whoooore* in church

Its awfully persuasive to supply you your personal (xaar) which is theoretically your medication but refuse to acknowledge you as a human being; you plainly do not merit the designation[/quote]

You are trying too hard kiddo. Your refutation or silence is all that's needed. With everything else you type, you deduct from the sum total of human knowledge.



Lioness,

We will never satisfactorily know what my reasons for renouncing Islam were. We can however come to a palatable agreement to the soundness of arguements spoused by SNeters, based on the reasoning and evidence for them.

The question is: why are crusaders seen as the epitome of Christian wickedness for invading to regain christian land they lost to conquering muslims but muslims aren't held to the same standard for their unprovoked invasion and later usurpation of christian lands?

@ ‘Christian lands’ ------------------

Sometimes it is not good to argue for the sake of arguing and since you are not a Christian, IÂ’d rather not engage in a debate with you on this. They are after all people of the book which you arenÂ’t.

dhuusha dheer,

You are a foolish woman. Crusaders were a bunch of maniac christians from the savage dark ages of Europe who were loosed on the middle east and they commited the most horrendous massacres and genocide against the inhabitants of the region, both Jew and Muslim.

Grant,

It is not a good idea for a Catholic pope to sling mud. If it becomes the norm and the law for religions to abuse each other then Al Jazeera should be allowed to broadcast freely all the pedophile priests that have abused hundreds of thousands of young catholic youths lol

When Mel Gibson, a silly little actor, utters a few drunken words then the massed ranks of international media brings down on his head condemnation and contumely.

David Irving wrote scholarly tracts on the holocaust arguing that it is not all that it is cracked up to be and he gets jailed in a European country.

The same European country that allowed another religion to be caricatured and denigrated. Something is not right here.


As for External Jihad, I believe it is not a good idea. George Bush should stop his external Jihad to Democratize the World at gunpoint.

DD, yaaa ibnu xaraaaaaaaaaaaam; go watch this movie Kingdom of Heaven, there's a bit of a history there

Excellent points Cilmiile. Very well articulated.

[quote="Cilmiile"]dhuusha dheer,

You are a foolish woman. Crusaders were a bunch of maniac christians from the savage dark ages of Europe who were loosed on the middle east and they commited the most horrendous massacres and genocide against the inhabitants of the region, both Jew and Muslim. [quote]


As well as Christians but that doesn't change the fact THEY only invaded former Christiain lands of the Levant, Andalusian peninsula, Sicily and so on. Not Egypt, not N. Africa, not the arab nations, not a SINGLE formerly non-christian lands. You gonna have to do better than repeat muslim mantra that can't stand test close critical scrutiny.

[quote="Cilmiile"]dhuusha dheer,

You are a foolish woman. Crusaders were a bunch of maniac christians from the savage dark ages of Europe who were loosed on the middle east and they commited the most horrendous massacres and genocide against the inhabitants of the region, both Jew and Muslim.

Grant,

It is not a good idea for a Catholic pope to sling mud. If it becomes the norm and the law for religions to abuse each other then Al Jazeera should be allowed to broadcast freely all the pedophile priests that have abused hundreds of thousands of young catholic youths lol

When Mel Gibson, a silly little actor, utters a few drunken words then the massed ranks of international media brings down on his head condemnation and contumely.

David Irving wrote scholarly tracts on the holocaust arguing that it is not all that it is cracked up to be and he gets jailed in a European country.

The same European country that allowed another religion to be caricatured and denigrated. Something is not right here.


As for External Jihad, I believe it is not a good idea. George Bush should stop his external Jihad to Democratize the World at gunpoint. [/quote]


good analyses, but some of you dont want to get is dont you, it doesnt really matter whose wrong ore not, the q is how can you overcome it, how can you defeat them, but some of you are talking about killing, ore violence, remember that ur surrending to the media, i can understand if were furious, but why violence, why insulting judaism, and christians, thats the fault of our muslims, and aslong were still living in the past, gaalo and kufaars, like some of you like to call them, are gonna be step further us

Dhuuso,

Crusaders were murderous savages with a discredited and false religion and that is why they lost. Islam is the one true way and wherever Islam went in its earlest flowering, it was welcomed with open arms.

Faqash killer many good points well made.

Michal Ital:

There is a very good article on counterpunch.org by the anti zionist Jew Finkelstein and it makes for a good read.

Consider this excerpt from his excellent essay:

In the category of inherently anti-Semitic pronouncements the report includes "drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis" (only comparisons of contemporary Arab policy to that of the Nazis are permissible) and "theories about Jewish or Zionist influence on American foreign policy" (even if Jewish and Zionist organizations boast about this influence).


The pope can call Islam any old hideous name, Islam can be characterized as Fascist, Islamofascism can be used with impunity the only problem caused by this neologism being to whom the credit belongs for inventing a wonderful word lol

Judeo-Fascism, I am practicing that word. Has a nice ring to it dont ya think?