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Finklestein's good. I've been reading him since someone (you?) posted a link a few weeks ago. And Judeo fascism has been in my lexicon for over a month now. GREAT word, that everyone should ponder using.

[quote="Cilmiile"]Dhuuso,

Crusaders were murderous savages with a discredited and false religion and that is why they lost.[quote]

It didn't take long for the wheels to come off the carriage. Muslim's uncanny tendency to reply to bogus non-issues when pressed resurfaces. The issue of crusaders being savages or discredited group was never a point of contention. Rather, a call for muslims to account for their double-standard. Decrying the Crusaders as savages while overlooking what arab armies who previously conquered surrounding lands did.


[quote]Islam is the one true way [quote]

What was the question? Without knowing the question asked to prompt that reply, the above line makes no sense whatsoever.



[quote]and wherever Islam went in its earlest flowering, it was welcomed with open arms. [/quote]

Right after Mohammed's death, there was a violent revolt by the same arab tribes who just years ago begrudgingly accepted Islam. It was violently put down by Abu Bakr. So this claim that Islam was accepted where ever it went isn't true even in the birthplace of Islam and Mohammed. How can it be true in other lands that had their own set of deeply rooted superstitious believes?

Islam did not advance by the sword. It was advanced by the Justice and Truth that it proclaimed trhoughout the world. It goes to the heart of the matter in showing a clear distinction between the murderous crusader and the Early Muslims who proclaimed the word of Allah throughout the world and brought with them a true civilization and revival of knowledge throughout the world.

But what do u know, ur brain is addled by the noxious gases from Your dhuuso

DD South America was Christian land too right?

I think the pope was mislead by the media.The old geezer has been watching too much of FOX NEWS to understand Islam.

[quote="Cilmiile"]Islam did not advance by the sword. [quote]

And this is one of the foundational myths of Islam. Too bad for you, it's only a myth. Not only are you at disagreement with history but with your own Islamic history. Hadiths are rich source that directly refute and essentially debunk this myth.



[quote]It goes to the heart of the matter in showing a clear distinction between the murderous crusader and the Early Muslims who proclaimed the word of Allah throughout the world and brought with them a true civilization and revival of knowledge throughout the world.[/quote]

As I said before the so called prophet of Allah himself led numerous Ghazwas (or military raids).



[quote]But what do u know, ur brain is addled by the noxious gases from Your dhuuso [/quote]

If my brain is running on noxious gases, one is left to wonder what your brain is running on.

If I may take issue with your posting:

You seem to have fallen into the zionist trap of demonizing Hitler as some kind of exceptionally evil leader.

Unless you picked his name in random from a list similar Western and Christian leaders who went on the rampage.

Like Nixon or Lyndon Johnson. Or Truman. Or Churchill.

I dont know what is so bad about Hitler?

He invaded Poland on a flimsy pretext? Well, so did George Bush invade Iraq a country that posed no threat to his country.

Hitler killed 6 millions jews? Perhaps not that many, the issue is in dispute, although I would be squeamish about voicing this kind of arguemnt in downtown Vienna. Ok, I concede he killed a lot of jews(but not as many as they claim), but then didnt America kill 3 millions Vietnamese over the course of the Vietnam war? and for what reason? In fact didnt they try to defoliate the entire country? Surely these crimes are more serious and deplorable than any other?

NB: My bad, I see you are only quoting someone else.

[quote="Xplosive"]DD South America was Christian land too right?[/quote]

No, it wasn't. What's your point?


It's a fact that Jerusalem was Christian before Islam so was the entire Levant, Anatolia, Greece, Itali, Sicily, parts of Egypt and ALL of Europe.

[quote="DANGIRL"]I think the pope was mislead by the media.The old geezer has been watching too much of FOX NEWS to understand Islam.[/quote]


I agree with you Dangirl

[quote="dhuusa_deer"][quote="Xplosive"]DD South America was Christian land too right?[/quote]

No, it wasn't. What's your point?


It's a fact that Jerusalem was Christian before Islam so was the entire Levant, Anatolia, Greece, Itali, Sicily, parts of Egypt and ALL of Europe.[/quote]

My point is Christians exterminated millions of Indians in South America under the banner of Christianity so you're claim that they only went to Christian lands is false.

[quote="Xplosive"][quote="dhuusa_deer"][quote="Xplosive"]DD South America was Christian land too right?[/quote]

No, it wasn't. What's your point?


It's a fact that Jerusalem was Christian before Islam so was the entire Levant, Anatolia, Greece, Itali, Sicily, parts of Egypt and ALL of Europe.[/quote]

My point is Christians exterminated millions of Indians in South America under the banner of Christianity so you're claim that they only went to Christian lands is false.[/quote]

huh? ok, I think it's clear as daylight you were tripped up by your own rhetorical double-knots, let me help you out. We were talking about CRUSADERS not Christians in general. keep your eyes on the ball kiddo!

Why would he quote an infidel that lived in the 14 century? Why would he repeat such words, does he agree with him, of course he must, why else would he quote such blasphemy.Isnt that what every infidel thinks behind close doors when no one is seeing or hearing what they are doing.This is the same group that worship three gods and they think allah means something else like another god.

[quote]huh? ok, I think it's clear as daylight you were tripped up by your own rhetorical double-knots, let me help you out. We were talking about CRUSADERS not Christians in general. keep your eyes on the ball kiddo![/quote]

Fair enough

"The objects of these religious wars carried on by European nations against Islam between the 11th and 13th centuries were originally to ensure the safety of pilgrims visiting the Holy Sepulchre, and to set up Christian rule in Palestine. Later on the attacks were directed against Egypt and even Constantinople, and in the 14th century the conquests of the Ottoman Turks turned crusading into a defensive movement."

So they never attacked Muslim lands you said?

http://www.historybookshop.com/articles ... usades.asp

after we lost spain, and we went our own way, shias and sunnies, did those christians and jews toke their change, they where in muslim countries and they invaded it 2, did you know what they did to the powerfull ottman empire, maybe they didnt massacred us, but they colonized us

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegyptus_(Roman_province)

Caliph Umar took Egypt from the Sassanid Seroe in 641. Seroe had taken it from the Byzantine Empeor Heralius in 619-22. Egypt, and the entire eastern end of the Mediteranean, had been officially Christian for more than two hundred years.

DD said they only attacked to take back previously Christian lands. I believe he is correct.