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Turkish Official Compares Pope to Hitler

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:15 am
by michael_ital
Politician joins outcry across Muslim world over pontiff's comments in Islam

Reuters
Muslim protestors demonstrate against Pope Benedict XVI in the Indian Kashmiri city of Srinagar on Friday.

Updated: 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
ANKARA, Turkey - TurkeyÂ’s ruling Islamic-rooted party joined a wave of criticism of Pope Benedict XVI on Friday, accusing him of trying to revive the spirit of the Crusades with remarks he made about the Muslim faith.

Muslim leaders elsewhere in the world also expressed dismay, with PakistanÂ’s Foreign Ministry summoning the VaticanÂ’s ambassador to express regret over the remarks, and Parliament passing a resolution condemning the comments.

The pope’s words were “deeply disturbing for Muslims all over the world, and had caused great hurt and anguish,” the ministry said in a statement.

The Vatican’s envoy “regretted the hurt caused to Muslims and said that the media had totally misconstrued certain historical quotes that the Pope used in his lecture,” the statement said.

Benedict quoted from a book recounting a conversation between 14th century Byzantine Christian Emperor Manuel Paleologos II and a Persian scholar on the truths of Christianity and Islam.

“The emperor comes to speak about the issue of jihad, holy war,” the pope said. “He said, I quote, ’Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”’

Benedict did not explicitly agree with the statement nor repudiate it.

cont'd @ http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14846353/

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:28 am
by Garaad_LQ
nothing new about the Catholic church , they see Islam us a treat to their existence since mohamed (PBUH) walked on this earth ........

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:27 am
by Steeler [Crawler2]
Muslims wouldn't be happy if they weren't pissed off about something. Being pissed of seems to be a more comfortable state for Muslims than just living and letting live.

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:51 am
by Grant
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/mu ... =1&cid=842

"The Rev. Robert Taft, a specialist in Islamic affairs at Rome's Pontifical Oriental Institute, said it was unlikely Benedict miscalculated how some Muslims would receive his speech.

"The message he is sending is very, very clear," Taft said. "Violence in the name of faith is never acceptable in any religion and that (the pope) considers it his duty to challenge Islam and anyone else on this."

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I think that, since 9/11, exterior jihad has become the central issue of our times. I believe the Vatican will continue to apologize for the hurt felt by Muslims, but that the Pope cannot, and will not, back down.

Are you aware that a Greek Orthodox and an Anglican chuch were torched in the West Bank? Any idea what this says to the West about Muslims and indiscriminant violence?

How about this gem: "The pope and Vatican proved to be Zionists and that they are far from Christianity, which does not differ from Islam. " Shiite cleric Sheik Abdul-Kareem al-Ghazi said during a sermon in Iraq's second-largest city, Basra."

Christians, and especially the Pope, can't accept this.

Fasten your seatbelts, folks. This ride is going to get increasingly rocky as the issues get defined.

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:48 am
by eyes-only
^^ This coming from the Christian crusaders.

I think the pope should do something about the paedophilia fostered by his church before commenting on other religions. When I first heard the news, I found it funny and even funnier hearing them make excuses like, ‘oh, he didn’t mean it that way, it was taken out of context’. Like hell he didn’t.

We are witnessing 21st century Christian crusades on Islam and the Pope probably decided to take his part in it. Not surprised by it and I donÂ’t think any other muslim was either. The new pope is different to the old one and he fancies himself as the symbol for crusaders everywhere.

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:27 pm
by dhuusa_deer
[quote="eyes-only"] I think the pope should do something about the paedophilia fostered by his church before commenting on other religions. [quote]

I agree and would add muslims should also begin tackling their own problems. Start with the culture of Shaheedism and violent activism.




[quote]We are witnessing 21st century Christian crusades on Islam and the Pope probably decided to take his part in it. [/quote]

I find muslim's non-ending complaints about the Crusades funny. Crusaders were taking back what was wrongly taken from them by muslims crusaders. How do you justify one and berate the other.

Crusaders for example invaded sicily to overthrow muslims rule. But Sicily was NEVER muslim, muslims invaded it even though it was an ISLAND and posed no threat whatsoever to anyone.

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:27 pm
by fagash_killer
what else do you except of this nazi pope

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:32 pm
by 1nemansquad
Grant,
you old piglet Kufaar; listen up;

it is certain that nowhere in his preachingÂ’s did Prophet Muhammad (PBHU) advocate the spread of Islam 'by the sword', that is something that Muslims learnt later, when it encountered militant Christianity during the Middle Ages

initially, most Islamic/Muslim campaigns were of a defensive nature, even early incursions into the Byzantine empire, when the Arabian Peninsula was threatened by its larger neighbour--a 'riposteÂ’

the dynamism of Islam at its inception carried it forth to conquests

the slightest thing you fockers can do is go and gain knowledge of who you hate (Islam/Muslims), do some study on the area under discussion prior to opening your badly informed spiteful mouths for the love of God!

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:39 pm
by dhuusa_deer
[quote="1nemansquad"] it is certain that nowhere in his preachingÂ’s did Prophet Muhammad (PBHU) advocate the spread of Islam 'by the sword', [quote]

He led by example. Mohammed personally led 10s of Ghazwas during his "prophethood."



"initially, most Islamic/Muslim campaigns were of a defensive nature, even early incursions into the Byzantine empire, when the Arabian Peninsula was threatened by its larger neighbour--"


YOu mean like cut-off, surrounded by water, peacefull Sicily? I say for the umpteenth time SHOW US FROM HISTORICAL RECORDS WHERE ISLAM WAS THREATENED.

How did India threaten Islam?
How did France threaten Islam?
How did Spain threaten Islam
How did Sicily threaten Islam?

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:48 pm
by 1nemansquad
DD, save the drama for your moma fool, i somewhat would discuss with a piglet white Kaafir than a undernourished, bastard faggot who got rescued from Baidhabo and for that reason turned on his faith and creator;

again save the drama for your moma, b!tch

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:51 pm
by fagash_killer
dd you've got an point their, yet we dislike if other treathn us, but if we treaten our selfs, like darfur, somalia, iraq, pakistan, than is it suddenly normal, its true when one member of the muslim brotherhood, once said, we muslims are still living in the past

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:58 pm
by 1nemansquad
[quote="fagash_killer"]dd you've got an point their, yet we dislike if other treathn us, but if we treaten our selfs, like darfur, somalia, iraq, pakistan, than is it suddenly normal, its true when one member of the muslim brotherhood, once said, we muslims are still living in the past[/quote]

you are one unconscious mothercoker Laughing

i unequivocally belief that youÂ’re a retarded computer bug, not a human being at all; since nobody can be this dim-witted

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:00 pm
by dhuusa_deer
[quote="1nemansquad"] again save the drama for your moma, b!tch[/quote]

It's understandable why you'd say that. If you can't summon a reply pertaining to the topic at debate, assailing against imaginary windmills is next best thing. Apparently, face saving is more important than truth finding.

Sad though. In addition to dulling the minds and hearts of muslims, Islam has also deprived you lot of your innate (and universal) sense of dignity. A painful tragedy.

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:08 pm
by 1nemansquad
DD, hang around and see me employ a debate with that Grant piglet who it appears that has more value than your dark-gaal a$$

i deny to acknowledge you, now go on and cry on my balls all you like

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:34 pm
by michael_ital
DAMN!!! The 1neman i've grown to know is back, kicking ass and taking names!! !!! Laughing Laughing