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Postby Grant » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:53 pm

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fiel ... igion.html

"Oromo Religion

In the pre-colonial Oromo society, the core of Oromo social, economic, political, philosophical, and spiritual life was a holistic institution known as Gada.
Under Gadaa, Oromos believed in Waaq (God). Waaq is one as a supreme being, but It is also many as ayyaana. Ayyaana exist in everybody and everything in the universe. In Oromo religion, Waaq creates and regulates the existence of all animate and inanimate, material and non-material nature and places them in a well-balanced cosmic order.

As an extension of this phenomenon, Oromos believe that society collapses unless a balance is struck between female and male, young and old, spiritual and physical power in the cosmic order of WaaqÂ’s wisdom. The interdependence of the dominant and the liminal is considered a precondition for peace and prosperity in both metaphysical and practical sense.

Oromos refer to this concept of peace and order of Waaq as safuu. Safuu is extremely important in Oromo religious and political thought. If the balance is disturbed, it is said that safuu is lost. The loss of safuu is the loss of seera Waaq (WaaqÂ’s law and order). The loss of safuu signals the reign of chaos and disaster.

Thus, Waaq is the source and the course of everything simultaneously. Waaq is the beginning and end, one and many, infinite and infinitesimal all at the same time. Waaq exists in everything and everything exists in It. Waaq is the fabric that weaves the past, the present and the future. This philosophical, political and religious thought of the Oromo is embodied in their emblem, the Faajjii Walaabuu. Faajjii Walaabuu is a tricolour emblem with white, red, and white hues.

The white is the past, the ancestors, the bones, the ashes. White is the past, the bones that remain behind when life flickers out. White is the ashes that remain when the fire is out. White is the ancestors. The red is the present, the living, the here and now. Red is flesh. Red is the blood that rushes through our veins. Red is the living fire. Red is the present. The black is the future. Black is the unknown and the unknowable. Black is the spirit, the soul. Black is Waaq (God). Black is holy and sacred. Thus, in the three colors of Faajjii Walaabuu, Waaq weaves together the past, the present and the future; the bones, the flesh and the soul.

Contemporary Oromo society, however, is a multi-faith society. Although there is little doubt that Oromos have pursued many paths into the spiritual world, the three major religious thoughts claiming the vast majority of Oromos are Islam, Christianity, and Oromo religion. Quite often religion has been a highly sensitive and divisive issue in our communities. We need a positive space where de do not fight over ideas but share them respectfully. This page is hoped to be a space where Oromos of all faith groups share views, experiences, and co-ordinate activities . "

Also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waaq

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I am intrigued by the Waaq religion and surprised that it has almost enitrely disappeared, even among the Oromo, having been largely supplanted either by Islam or Christianity. Does any one have any insight into this phenomenon? Are there remnants in Somalia ?

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Postby Luckyy » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:59 pm

Grant... who come fromCabuwaq Question ask Cawar and sexyfoolxun they r the Faqash Family aka Waaq Family...........they can explain 2 u all about Waaq religion Laughing Laughing

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Postby sexy-kitten » Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:04 pm

^^Another Qaldaan introduced to qabiilism at such a young age.. If you studied MATH, READING, SCIENCE, and GEOGRAPHY as much as you study qabiil, you would've been a straight A student.

Get off my tits little baby wh!!re.

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Postby Nabeela » Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:11 pm

LOOOOOOOOOl@sexy

Cuqdad 101.

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Postby Xplosive » Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:13 pm

Nothing I hate more than a 13 year old dhoocil oo hada qabyaalad noo soo baratay. I feel like drop kicking these teen bytches.

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Postby Luckyy » Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:17 pm

Laughing Laughing Laughing cry Faqash cry



Sexy,nebila,xplozive..oh!!! did I make u all cry Question cowards STOP calancal n have 3some Question aint that what is Waaq believers used 2 practice Question Shocked

Since when stating the Truth become CRIME Question

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Postby Xplosive » Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:23 pm

Ok now trying saying that in English. Arrow

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Postby fagash_killer » Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:43 pm

Laughing Laughing somalis what should we do with them

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Postby Galol » Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:46 pm

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There is no doubt Waq was one of our pre-Islamic Gods as witnessed by not only the name of the town A/Waq but by countless other pieces of evidence.

Waq in fact links to the worship of the `crow god' as Msex recently posted here. Somalis to this day use the term `waaq' to describe the call of the crow. No other bird or animal sound is described as `waaq'.

Another intriguing link of Waq with the crow god is this: The Somali term for `praying' is `tuko' (pray or go pray). The Somali word for Crow is? Tuke. The term for praying has no Arabic derivative even close to it at all.

So there is little doubt if any that Waq was an ancient Somali deity. And the `Crow God' was far from the only one: there were many others including Tinnixi, tincaro. I and many others of my age from the north, west including Ogaden region and Central Somalia were brought up with our elders making oath thus: Wallahi(By Allah) Billahi(By allah again) Tollahi(on my Kinsmen) Tinnixi(On my god Tinnixi) Tincaro (on my God Tincaro). Romantically and uncharcateristically for the distinctly no nonsense Somali culture; Tincaro means "gossamer wings" or perhaps "the filaments of the Spider". To my knowledge no one knows what Tinnixi means.

But one day we will find out.

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Postby COSTA » Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:58 pm

So what arabs used to have 2 gods before islam their name was Laata and Cuzaa so what if Oromos and Somalis had other gods before Islam?

What matters is today we are 99.9%muslims and we proud about it

its not only Caabud waq ; other waaqs i remember are Jidwaaq:Amarti waaq: Suwaaq roon

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Postby eyes-only » Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:00 pm

I have never in my life heard of tinnixi and tincaro. Surprised

Saying : “Wallahi(By Allah) Billahi(By allah again) Tollahi(on my Kinsmen) Tinnixi(On my god Tinnixi) Tincaro (on my God Tincaro)” - --------- sounds blasphemous are you sure people used to say that?

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Postby DawladSade » Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:04 pm

Galol stop lying even a west african muslim friend of mine says billahi tollahi and there has never been a tinixi tincaro your just tryin to spread anti islamic nacnac as usual

Somali is a proto-sam cushitic language that has the sam origins as oromo. Waaq is the old cushitic word for God

Bar-waaq-o (by the bounty of god)

gar-waaq-siin (give you the knowledge of god---will inform you)

caa-bud-waaq (the place they used to worship god)

ceel-waaq (the well of god)

etc etc etc its just the old cushitic word for God and it has continued to stay with oromos while somalis shucked it off when their language became half semitized.
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Postby COSTA » Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:04 pm

Is it Galool who said that rubbish

he is on my ignore list

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Postby Galol » Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:11 pm

Dowladsade

So we agree on the substantive point then which is this: waq was a pre-Islamic Somali god?

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Postby DawladSade » Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:24 pm

[quote="Galol"]Dowladsade

So we agree on the substantive point then which is this: waq was a pre-Islamic Somali god?[/quote]

I don't see anywhere we agreed. Smile

A general belief of believing in a higher being is not the same as believing in a specific entitiy. In that nature we agree that Waaq was a pre-Arabic influence somali word for God and not necessarily pre-Islamic nor an actual entity itself. Smile

My muslim Oromo friends word for "god" in their language is Waaq and it is used by both pagans, Muslims, and Chrisitans alike because it is the general oromo word for god.

Since you might try to be difficult, its similar to the word "god" in english. Christians, Hindis, Muslims, Jews, native americans who speak english all label what they believe in as god since its not a specific entity as what you implied for waaq but a general description of a higher being as Waaq really is.


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