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Cimiile,

"go back to your elders and take few lessons before you join..."

Sxb how about if i tell i was there..No, but fiiri no one is denying dat their (Dhulbahante) were his soldier and reer abtiyaashiis...but i was mentioning despite their loyalty to him he saw them just as soldiers and nothing else. I dont know but their is a Gabay in which he talks about all the Somali qabiilyasha and somebody asked him about Dhulbahante and Sayidka responds by saying dat "DAD BAAN KA HADLEENAY". So sxb maybe u need to go back to your unbaised elders and ask about this.

Dhulbahaante always have a good soldeir (follower) and to this day they are (Guarding Pu$$yland from Isaaqs).

*_*

Sayidka was a great patriot and a national Somali Hero. possibly the father of the modern Somali nation.

just look at my avatar

[quote="Young_Activist"]Cimiile,

"go back to your elders and take few lessons before you join..."

Sxb how about if i tell i was there..No, but fiiri no one is denying dat their (Dhulbahante) were his soldier and reer abtiyaashiis...but i was mentioning despite their loyalty to him he saw them just as soldiers and nothing else. I dont know but their is a Gabay in which he talks about all the Somali qabiilyasha and somebody asked him about Dhulbahante and Sayidka responds by saying dat "DAD BAAN KA HADLEENAY". So sxb maybe u need to go back to your unbaised elders and ask about this.

Dhulbahaante always have a good soldeir (follower) and to this day they are (Guarding Pu$$yland from Isaaqs).[/quote]




War yaa Ilaahay yaqaana

War nimankan Mareexaan waa Cuqdad soconaysa walaahay

Brother, Young Activist, I know history, But if you have history and poems bring them to the table. Dont come in here with some non-existent bullshit.

I get the feeling that you are feeling left out because your family had no part in this great struggle

Young Gun,

Darwiish Army was in norhthern Mudug. It is Cumar Maxamuud land but Darwiishes could go anywhere in Somalia and settle as long as there was no European or Organized local goverment stopping them, e.g. Boqor Cismaan or Suldaan Cali Yuusuf.

the biggest cumar Maxamuud contingent in the Darwiish movement were the Reer Khalaf, Abshir dhoore family. But like Cali Dhuux and many other Darwiishes, large numbers of them deserted the movement after the Sayid was condemned by his Sudanese mentor Maxamed Saalix.

Sakal lagu rid rer Samatar Khalaf seege taladiiye
Subeerrey noqdeen wiilashaan saakullayn jiraye
Kolkaan anigu saafi u noqday sir ila dooneene

from what I know he gived the Italians to the curp.

who is this Young Activist?

one of them Ilko-Yar sissies?

a great poet who was also gay.

All the ppl who are against the Sayid are Isaaqs trying to diminish him and belittle him JUST.. into some sort of a poet..I wonder why???

Well Cali Dhuux was Gabyaa, Careys Ciise was Gabyaa, Yamyam was one...But the Sayid was different..be it in Gabay and be it in Halgan (fighting the colonizers).

The Sayid was a great man, but some of his soldiers were alot like modern day mooryaans.. I'm not taking jabs at any qabiil in particular since some of those were from my clan. But I know for sure that they were responsible for the killing of many women and children. When they used to report back to him what they had done he would just say "Its between your and your God" instead of doing something about it. Thats the only point where i dislike the Sayyid.

But if u focus on that bigger picture he was definately one of the greatest Somali men to ever have lived.

Cilmiile

I didn't dispute that. I probably have a great uncle who died fighting along the siyad


Xp

in eyl they dropped 500 ciise riyooles off cliffs because they taunted the siyad. Some off his motives where highly questionable

They did some ill shit in Boosaaso and Sanaag too. I have some truly f'ed up stories to tell about them.. most of those stories I got from my grandparents.

But I dont think he can be held accountable for all of their actions.

But thw actions of your soldiers are the actions of yours sxb. How do you think anybody can accept the UIC of today when there people were the past looters rapers maimers what have you and they were amongst the animals of our society.

Same with siyad he was a if you don't fight with us I will kick your ass type of nigga

Ciise mohmoud said f u. He sent a large contingent killing women children men off cliffs while they were tied up into the indian ocean to be eat by sharks or drown. THATS FUKKED UP

All I know is that he MURDERED more Dhulos than so-called cadaw. I also know that he was no where to be found in the Somali history books before Siyad Barre came to power. Darawwish was known SHIFTO among Somalis in that region. Everything they eat were stolen from innocent Somalis than he used to write a poem about it to glamorizes the eventÂ….how stupid is that?

Waa lgu digtaa ruux haduu ku daraan jiraye
Bal dayaay wadaadkii wakaa sii dabayshadaye

Ismaciil MirreÂ…his commander of chief

[quote="surria"]I wonder why the Sayyid refused to unite with the Ethiopian king Lil Yasu, who accepted Islam?[/quote]


Didn't I answer you this In the last thread you chose not to respond.


Why are you posting threads like this, esp , after my last censure of you. I gather you are interested in the Somali history , yet you are biased about it.


Similar to Sayid's struggle was Ahmed Gran (1543) or Axmed Gurey. Have you started researching it too? I will recommend you a book if you want.

Ps. The history of Sayid does not resemble in any form the UIC. I find your correlation of the two insulting. One was a struggle against the external factors, whereas the UIC one is one against the internal dynamics of warlordism. It was a success, but its far-fetched, wild ambitions might to be its undoing.

Surria is a shady character walle.