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Professor Samatar comes out in opposition to the ICU

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Professor Samatar comes out in opposition to the ICU

Postby Cilmiile » Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:46 pm

Shir uu soo abaabulay Xasan Jaanici oo shalay ka dhacay Mennisota ayaa waxaa ka Soo Qaybgalay Rag ay ka mid ahaayeen Prof Ahmed Ismaaciil Samatar, Waxayna ahayd Markii ugu horeysay oo Profku uu ku Gacansayro Barnaamijyada Maxkamaduhu wataanÂ’Â’ Cimaamad aan madax ku duubtay iga dhigimayso SheekhÂ’Â’


Prof Samatar ayaa la sheegay in aragtidiisa uu ka dhiibtay sida uu u arkayay Maxkamadaha Midoobay ee Alitixaad Alislaamiya, waxa uuna sheegay in ay la mid yihiin ururkii Talibaan ee Maraykanku dagaalka la galay.


Profku waxa uu sheegay in is hortaaga Saxaafada, xaqirida xaqa dumarka iyo inay bulshada ka midyihiin haweenku Maxkamaduhu ku guuldaraysteen, waxaana ay sameeyeen dagaalo aan loobaahnayn iyo awood balaarin, mana ahayn wax shacabka soomaaliyeed ay ka sugayeen.


Qaadkaanu mamnuucaynaa, shaneemoooyinkaanu mamanuucaynaa, qofkii dumar ah ee aan madaxa masar saarin waa la karbaashayaa, waa sheekooyinkii Taliban, mana laga yeelayo Maxkamadaha.


‘’Shacabka soomaaliyeed waa inay helaan xuriyad ay ku hadli karaan, xoriyad ay Diinta ay doonaan ku raaci karaan, xoriyad ay dhulkooda ugu noolaan karaan, hadii intaas la waayana maxkamaduhu waxay marayaan wadadii Talibaan iyo ka sii xun, anaguna waxaan ka mid noqonaynaa kuwa la dagaalami doona oo iyaga ka soo horjeesan doona, waa hadii aysan wax ka badalin qaabka ay meelaha ay ku suganyihiin ku maamulaan.’’


Profku waxa uu sheegay in qofka soomaaliga ah hadii uu noqdo masiixi uu dhulkiisa ku noolaan karo, waa qof soomaali ah, isaga iyo ilaahiis ayay u taalaa waxa uu caabudayo, dalku waa dalkiisii, maxkamaduhu inay dilaan xaq uma lahan, aduunkuna ilgaar ah ayuu ku eegayaa ficilada Maxkamadaha, waana wax loo kaydinayo.


Waxaa kale oo shirka ka hadlay xasan jaamici oo sheegay inay sameeyeen Urur lagu magacaabo Ururka nabada iyo Isku xirka Maxkamadaha, waxa uuna shirka ka sheegay in loobaahanyahay lacag loo diro Maxkamadaha Muqdisho, isaga oo sheegay in Magaalada ay joogaan looga baahanyahay $10.000 oo doolar, isaguna uu yahay ninka ugu horeeya ee lacagtaas wax ka bixinaaya, waxa uuna miiskii shirka ee la fadhiyay uu ku bixiyay $500.00 oo doolar.


Xasan Jaamici ayaa la sheegay in shirkii uu ka sheegay hadalo uu markaa ku doonayay in maxkamadaha dhaqaalo loogu ururuuriyo, isaga oo soo daliishaday sheekooyin Magaalada Muqdisho ka dhacay oo ay ka mid ahaayeen in halka nin ee Maxkamadaha ah ay ilaa 3 ama 4 nin oo Mooryaanta magaalada Muqdisho ku sugan uu u babac dhigi karo, waana haybad ay bulshada ku leeyihiin iyo geesinimo dheeraad ah , oo ninkii cimaamad Guduudan lagu arko dadka oo dhan ayaa kala cararaya ayuu yiri.

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Postby Cilmiile » Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:51 pm

Very smart the two professors. I admire them very much( and not just because they are family friends).

Our views almost always coincide.

I urge all Somalis to subscibe to their scholarly journal(it is not stuffy and unreadable) Bildhaan. You will be assisting the two Great Men financially so they can carry out their political activity, which I am sure is very taxing on their pocket book. And you will learn a great deal about Somalia, its society, history, politics, literature in the bargain.

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Postby LionHeart-112 » Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:52 pm

It's interesting that you are posting few minutes after Galol posted. Wink

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Postby Cilmiile » Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:53 pm

Telling, isn't it?

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Postby LionHeart-112 » Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:54 pm

Very. And quite brave.

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Postby Basra- » Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:08 pm

This is a very interesting development i must whisper. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Postby Somaliman% » Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:31 pm

good stuff indeed Very Happy

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Postby CrazySommies » Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:55 pm

Ahmed is Darod professor who is true to standby whats good of his ethnic groups.

Compare that to the guy who hates Isaaqs so much, he in fact refused to pay his bye salutes to his mother during her funeral just because she was Idoor. Shamefull drunken professor!

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Postby Lacageylacag » Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:16 pm

You are very naive my friend.
As if the Maxkamaha ever expected the support of such people.

How many "professors, doctors and Engineers" are in Baidoa federal Gov?

Those titles are highly despised these days. They have proved themselves to be hikmat-less, worthless thieves of the public purse.

Give the real rulers(scholars of islam) a chance for once will ya?

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Postby DamallaXagare » Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:19 pm

I share with the Professor's vision of de-secularism. People should exercise their freedom to choose what they want and I don't see that happening in Somalia If the Islamic courts succeed in ruling Somalia. Simply, the Islamic rule is incompatible with the modern state rule. We can adopt the adminstration model of Sudan.

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Postby same » Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:29 pm

Camiile,

Xagee baad ka soo xigatay qoraalkan aan u riyaaqay.

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Postby Galol » Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:41 pm

"I share with the Professor's vision of de-secularism"

Damlla

de-secularism?

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Postby DamallaXagare » Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:47 pm

That was a term used by Samuel Huntington in his article "The Clash of Civilization", which drew a raft of attention and counter-arguments.

If you get a chance, try to read it.

This was his thesis,

"It is my hypothesis that the fundamental source of conflict in this new world will not be primarily ideological or primarily economic. The great divisions among humankind and the dominating source of conflict will be cultural. Nation states will remain the most powerful actors in world affairs, but the principal conflicts of global politics will occur between nations and groups of different civilizations. The clash of civilizations will dominate global politics. The fault lines between civilizations will be the battle lines of the future."

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Postby DR-YALAXOOW » Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:49 pm

Cilmiile warkaa wuxuu ka soo xigtey abdulaahi biijo webside idimaale.com

waa webside wuxuu qoro 110% been abuur ah, waxaa iska leh websikaa wiil uu dhaley mr abdulaahi biijo himelf..


cilmiire meel ah credible source haddii aad ka soo xigan laheeyd, hadalkaa waxaa laga yaabi lahaa inuu wax uun ka jiro.. laakiin hadal ka yimid IDAMAALE.COM waa hadal been abuur ah.

SAMATAR BROTHERs waa lala socdaa waa dad 100% ka shaqeeya wanaaga shacabka soomaliyeed.. kana soo horjeeda TAAGEERAYAASHA axmaarada ee soomaliya iibsadey sida abdulahi biijo, riyaale geedi iyo shayaadiinta kale ee taageera milez zanaawi..

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Postby Qaarxiye » Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:50 pm

[quote]Simply, the Islamic rule is incompatible with the modern state rule.[/quote]

Aacudi Bilaaaaaaaaaaah.



[quote]waa webside wuxuu qoro 110% been abuur ah, waxaa iska leh websikaa wiil uu dhaley mr abdulaahi biijo himelf.. [/quote]

Qaadsiya oo reera diimeed isku sheego ayaa ka been badan Idamaale. At least Idamaale diinta kuma gabadaan laakin kuwaan magaca diinta ku ciyaaraya ayaa ka xun.

[quote]SAMATAR BROTHERs waa lala socdaa waa dad 100% ka shaqeeya wanaaga shacabka soomaliyeed.. kana soo horjeeda TAAGEERAYAASHA axmaarada ee soomaliya iibsadey sida abdulahi biijo[/quote]

Yalaxoow jug aa tahay malaha. Samatar brothers never siad they supported Afbiijo but they did say they oppose the policies of these clan courts. Judging by their actions, they do not have the interest of the somali people in their hearts.


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