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Demure

Are you asking me to be blind??? how naive can we be??

YOur aderr(excuse for pointing the obvious) has all he had under Siad Barre and still enjoys the same under the warlords, not to mention the Wadaads and you expect me to stay the smae, laughing as if nothing has changed??? well I am not a Hypocrite...good luck if you chose to be one.

PS. How had=rd is it to understand this???

Ashlee, I do not hate Siad Bare, I'm just objecting to the claim that he was a good leader. He wasn't and I said why I think he wasn't.

Demure

What is wrong with cows now? are you being Speciest? Look, cows are easy-going, happy, ampling, colourful gorgeous beings with cool great eyes and massive...sort of, well, shape.

Cawar, So what now, bitterness and may I say misguided jealousy is clouding your judgment? I find it funny how you infer to only your clan suffered through this ordeal. All Somalis suffered as a result of this war. Some more than others, that is not an excuse however to become a judgmental close minded fock advocating for qabiil this vs qabiil this! So you lost your house, so did we! Focking big deal do you see me cry over it? My family choose to not cause a bloodshed for a house and for the time being let it be. When a legitimit Gov is established am sure your house will be returned to you as ours will be too since we have the deed in hand.

Cawar you don't have to call me hypocrtite I'm not, I know people suffered "Collectively" and just want to move on not point fingers at what happened and what didn't happen.

Galol, how would you feel if I called you lax?

There's something about the word "cow" that has the weight of a ton of bricks.

LoooooooooL @ "He was a little bit shady." Bit of an understatment id say

It's pretty surreal actually.

". All Somalis suffered as a result of this war. Some more than others, that is not an excuse however to become a judgmental close minded fock advocating for qabiil this vs qabiil this! So you lost your house, so did we! Focking big deal do you see me cry over it?"

Tell that to Habar Kuuleey..

You lost nothing and I Lost everything..so dotn you frkking comapre me with your self...thats whats making you a hypocrite to the bone.


And I know things.

PS. Ppl didnt suffer collectivetly...they sufferd selectively...dam it.

Cawar, Sorry you feel that way and believe what you're saying.

What a shame!

Demure

Thank you IFF you were sincre.

Cawar

May be its your disability how couldn't you see when Afwayne hired Rhodesian mencenary Pilots to Carpet-bomb Hargeysa , let alone summarily executing ten Islamic Sheikhs in broad day light , and You calling a patriot man You f.u.cking Cawar .

Guys you don't need counting warlords and Tigre Puppets , IN SHA Allâh the ICU will take over and unite all Somalis ,.

Odayaashii hore ee Siyaasada wax Somaalinimo ku hadhay Waxaa ka jira AbdirisaK H. Hussein , Khalif Galaryd , Ahmed Silanyo , Abdullahi Adow laakin shacabkii Somaaliyeed ayaan kalsooni u hayn maadama ay kasoo shaqeeyeen xukuumado taariikh xun ka tagey .

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Why do people point out the lilttle negativity of Siad Barre everytime his name is mentioned( ) Face it people, he was the only and the real president that Somalia ever had. He united hard headed Somalis, educated them , and built the country.
Please tell me people any Somali leader that has done the same things for Somalia

The people who came after him has done nothing for Somalia, but caused destruction . Caydiid (Hutu), blood sucking uncivilized bitch is reponsible of slaughtering millions of people.
His cannibal cousins are running around in Somalia with their fake wadadism propaganda. They are sucking up to Arabs to make their survival, little do they know that Arabs are digging up their graves. Idiot Moryaans will always be idiot Moryaans.

LooooooooooL @ "little negativity" It was a little more than that im afraid, but you do make some valid points

This thread shows how bad qabiil has affected Somalis. How can anyone look up to a man that bombed his own citizens, a man that shot down innocent people, his own people. As long as people are blinded by qabiil and continue to support their kinsmen blindly Somalia will be divided as it always was.

The Jaziira massacre, the bombings of waqooyi towns by white South African mercenary pilots are all a product of the late president. I know some of you Mareexaans will say these events were not caused by Siad Barre. Siad Barre was responisble for these atrocities that were committed by the Somali government and military, he was the president. To say Siad Barre is not responsible is to say he was an incompetent leader which you guys will never admit he was. I am not blaming any Mareexaans for the deaths that were caused by Siad Barre because every man/woman is his/her own person; but to blindly ignore all the wrong doings of Siad Barre makes you all look like hypocrites. Siad Barre was the president, he left no legacy, he left the country in ruin and forever divided Somalia far worse than any European colonial power ever did.

All the rebel movements were sparked by hate for the Somali government. The fact that Hawiye, Isaaq and Majeerteen a Daarood subclan all disliked the Somali government says a lot about Siad rule. I understand if you have one group of people rebelling, but when you have Isaaq and Hawiye who have no tribal ties rebelling against the government something was surely wrong; even Majeerteen who are Daarood were rebelling against Siad Barre, when you have your kin rebelling against you, you have surely done something wrong.

To sum up everything, Siad Barre was an unjust leader to say other wise would be to say that he was an incompetent leader, leaders should own up to everything their government does, just as everybody is responsible for their own actions the president was responsible for the actions of his government. When your a president your held to higher pedestal, some people here are speaking as if Siad was a local clan chief.

Samatr 70% of the massacre, bombing or what-ever was the work of SNM, SSDF and USC terrorist, they are responsible for killing thier own people to blame the government, we know dam well SNM are an example, they killed thier own kinsmen to convince the mass-Issaq majority to revolt against the "Faqash" government, boy did thier dreams succeed, only to hide behind civilians who were the killed cause of thier cowardness, I will only accept your theory if you give mines credit, sxb fuk qabiil point-I am speaking from heart!!

its amazing to see individual calling for another round of blodletting, Abdiwahab why not pray for peace instead of calling the deaht of innocent people in Somalia? for you its easy to say such thing as your a spoil with peace and the trapping of the western society. If u truly keen for war I asssume you will be in Somali in the frontline, but not calling shot behind the 14inch philips computer monitor, thus is playin sissy in it self...