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More Evidence of U.S Incompetence in Iraq

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:48 pm
by michael_ital
U.S. probe unearths secret war games

By AP

WASHINGTON -- The U.S. government conducted a series of secret war games in 1999 which anticipated an invasion of Iraq would require 400,000 troops and even then chaos might ensue, documents show.

In its "Desert Crossing" games, 70 military, diplomatic and intelligence officials assumed the high troop levels would be needed to keep order, seal borders and take care of security needs.

The documents came to light yesterday through a Freedom of Information Act request by the George Washington University's National Security Archive, an independent research institute.

"The conventional wisdom is the U.S. mistake in Iraq was not enough troops," said Thomas Blanton, the archive's director. "But the Desert Crossing war game in 1999 suggests we would have ended up with a failed state even with 400,000 troops on the ground."

There are now about 144,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, down from a peak of about 160,000 in January.



A spokesman for U.S. Central Command, which sponsored the seminar and declassified the secret report in 2004, declined to comment yesterday because she was not familiar with the documents.

The war games looked at "worst case" and "most likely" scenarios after a war that removed then-Iraqi president Saddam Hussein from power. Some are similar to what actually occurred after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003:

- "A change in regimes does not guarantee stability," the briefings said. "A number of factors including aggressive neighbours, fragmentation along religious and/or ethnic lines, and chaos created by rival forces bidding for power could adversely affect regional stability."

- "Even when civil order is restored and borders are secured, the replacement regime could be problematic -- especially if perceived as weak, a puppet, or out-of-step with prevailing regional governments."

- "A long-term, large-scale military intervention may be at odds with many coalition partners."

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:50 pm
by LionHeart-112
I don't think u need evidence of their incompetence anymore..it's just a matter of what/who/where are they gonna screw up next...

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:51 pm
by michael_ital
But that borders on bizarre. Anticipating the need for 400 000+ troops, and sending only a quarter of that. Confused

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:54 pm
by LionHeart-112
Michael-Haven't you seen at least one of the gazzillion documentaries made about thsi administration? This is all rumsfeld's fault. This fu.cktard is running the department of defense like a corporation..he is a great believer in downsizing and eliminating manpower because he prefers machinery...

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:03 pm
by Cawar
[quote="michael_ital"]But that borders on bizarre. Anticipating the need for 400 000+ troops, and sending only a quarter of that. Confused[/quote]

Mike

Arrogance by Rumsfeld and Cheney...and Dumbness by Bush lead to this...agaisnt all the warning of Powell and other Generals..

But dont forget onething...the determination of the Iraqi insurgency .

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:11 am
by michael_ital
Cawar

That def played a part, but the difference another 2-300 000 troops would have made is immeasurable.

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:02 pm
by Steeler [Crawler2]
I'll withhold commentary because I thought invading Iraq was a stupid move when the talk of it started.