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Omar ibn al Khattab must have been a smart guy. I'll bet he was fighting an uphill struggle the whole time.

A friend of mine was a special forces advisor to a Saudi National Guard armored unit in Desert Storm. And I shit you not, this actual conversation took place, only instead of maintaining a nuclear reactor, it was maintenance of the tanks. Tanks are maintenance heavy, and they won't work for long if you don't take proper care of them.

So maybe Muslims shouldn't engage in this kind of fatalistic "It's Allahs will" nonsense, but they definately do, and in a big way.

[quote="MAD MAC"]Omar ibn al Khattab must have been a smart guy. I'll bet he was fighting an uphill struggle the whole time.
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Actually, he would be fighting an uphill struggle today if he were alive.

Besides, did you ever ask yourself whether or not those soldiers were good Muslims themselves?

If you were to ask them to drink beer with the expats, would they do it?

Would they go to the Red Light district with you without hesitation?

I did use the word "was", indicating past tense.

Mad

Like GB said...what you saw in some filthy rich Arab guys is not the "Islamic way of doing things....au contraire.

However, Nuclear reactors for peaceful and energy purposes are something every country who signed the famous and partial Nuke prof. agreement ....but what do have in today's world???

Those who refused to sign ended up with the benefits and those who did are being punished..Ironic isnt it??

The only country being "punished" is Iran because everyone knows it is trying to develop nuclear weapons and North Korea, because it already has developed nuclear weapons (as it not a signatory). Pakistand and India did feel the heat. India is off the hook, because it has proven to be a responsible custodian. There is concern, however, about Pakistan because the society is fractious, and Muslims have a problem putting loyalty to state first. This makes it difficult for a Muslim state to be a responsible custodian of anything.

MADMAC you should be happy that the GCC will be going nuclear.

Then all those unemployed Egyptian and Iraqi Nuclear scientists will get a job, where they are under the close watch of you guys.

and they are liekly to go for a Pebble , High Temprature design reactor
so there is less risk of meltdown,

gurey
Let's hope so.......

I think they will eventually go nuclear wether someone likes it or not.

[quote="MAD MAC"]The only country being "punished" is Iran because everyone knows it is trying to develop nuclear weapons and North Korea, because it already has developed nuclear weapons (as it not a signatory). Pakistand and India did feel the heat. India is off the hook, because it has proven to be a responsible custodian. There is concern, however, about Pakistan because the society is fractious, and Muslims have a problem putting loyalty to state first. This makes it difficult for a Muslim state to be a responsible custodian of anything.[/quote]




Joke of the century.... so much for punishing the rogue states..



Seeking Iran Intelligence, U.S. Tries Google....


When the State Department recently asked the CIA for names of Iranians who could be sanctioned for their involvement in a clandestine nuclear weapons program, the agency refused, citing a large workload and a desire to protect its sources and tradecraft.

Frustrated, the State Department assigned a junior Foreign Service officer to find the names another way -- by using Google. Those with the most hits under search terms such as "Iran and nuclear," three officials said, became targets for international rebuke Friday when a sanctions resolution circulated at the United Nations.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00959.html

"When the State Department recently asked the CIA"

Well this is interesting, given that the CIA defacto works for the state department.

[quote="gurey25"]
Then all those unemployed Egyptian and Iraqi Nuclear scientists will get a job, where they are under the close watch of you guys.
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Add the Russian nuclear scientists into the mix and you could have a First Rate Nuclear Energy program funded by PetroDollars.

You know the saying "It takes energy to make energy."

your making nuclear reactors to be a big thing.

Even countries like the Philipines have some.

The Phillipines has nuclear energy?

Wow, even Brazil doesn't even have nuclear energy yet.

Wow, they must be sending some serious remittance money back from the Gulf, huh?

Hey dont underestimate Brazil , it one of the new up and coming Superpowers along with India and Maybe Indonesia if thier Economy improves.


Brazil is in a differant Leauge to the Philipines, or other Third world countries, becuase it builds and Designs its own reactors.
It has fully mastered Nuclear Technology and the fuel cycle, they have already done what Iran wants to do in the next 6 years.



Brazils Ballistic Missle technology was also ahead of India's until they shelved the missile program due to american pressure.
The accepted some advanced Sattelite and Computer technology in exchange however.


160 million people, Idustrialized Economy

Brazil is a major power.

[quote="Ashlee~"]^ SOMALIS ARE a corrupt bunch of self hating freaks. But thats besides the point.

Egypt Jordan Syria and who else was it lebanon? fought israel and there tiny state and got humbled in 6 days. Don't compare somalis a nation of 1/6 to 1/7 of ethiopia who humbled them and in turn caused 10+ thousand CASTRO CUBAN MERCENARIES and a thousand of russias top generals and military strategist We would have finished the yahuud in three days and not lose in 6 [/quote]

yeah like the 720 somali warriors who had fought among hezbollah, perhaps should we fight among palestinians and free them

somalis are maybe corrupt bunch of self hating freaks but we are not cowards we are born to be warriors and today look to somalia who else kicked those puppets out of our country, something that arabs are to scared of