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Million Dollar Question for ICU Supporters

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Postby The-Screw » Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:17 pm

AI.


get rid of him...right now!

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Re: Million Dollar Question for ICU Supporters

Postby Sir-Luggoyo » Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:23 pm

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]Does the ICU support the creation of Islamic Courts and Sharia if those courts are NOT part of the ICU ?

Can there be other NON-ICU courts and will this satisfy the ICU or do they want Courts Under their command ?

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Abdi,

Unlike qabiil, Islam unites and unifies all courts implemented, regardless of who, when and where. If the creators of certain Court are genuine, what's there to stop them from uniting the UIC? They have the same vision and they all strive for the same goal which is to execute Shareeca.

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Postby Dhaga Bacayl » Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:25 pm

[quote="The-Screw"]AI.


get rid of him...right now![/quote]

They have no choice. It was his decision.

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Re: Million Dollar Question for ICU Supporters

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:52 pm

[quote="Sir-Luggoyo"][quote="AbdiWahab252"]Does the ICU support the creation of Islamic Courts and Sharia if those courts are NOT part of the ICU ?

Can there be other NON-ICU courts and will this satisfy the ICU or do they want Courts Under their command ?

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Abdi,

Unlike qabiil, Islam unites and unifies all courts implemented, regardless of who, when and where. If the creators of certain Court are genuine, what's there to stop them from uniting the UIC? They have the same vision and they all strive for the same goal which is to execute Shareeca.[/quote]


Luugoyo,

So if the Court doesn't want to be part of the UIC for the reason of say they don't have the same intreperation of Sharia law like the UIC can they do it ? Is this a problem ?

The UIC has forced out all competing courts out of business in Xamar. This shows that the UIC doesn't see its self as merely a Sharia institute but a political one that is similar to Xisbiga Dowlaada Siyaad which did not allow other political parties

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Postby The-Screw » Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:53 pm

^ what a shocker,

you didnt say anything about us jackin' your topic.


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Postby Sir-Luggoyo » Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:02 pm

Abdi

You can twist, you can stretch, but the fact of the matter remains that, if two courts are operating and they both want to implement Shareeca, they will become one and support each other regardless of interpretation.

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Postby AbdiWahab252 » Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:05 pm

Luugoyo: But say if the two have different levels of interpretation ? say one is more liberal and the other extreme conservative ? What happens if the two issue differing rulings on a case ?

The UIC is united now in war but when the peace comes the internal struggles will be more prominent: Salafists vs, Taghfiiris vs. Suufis etc

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Postby qudhac-m » Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:07 pm

Aw Sir Bin Lugoooyo

Awoowo cumaamadaha nimankan yaa u keenay, he must be cayr business man.
if they would have inform me in advance i would have joined them.

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Postby muslim-man » Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:10 pm

AW,

If the courts you are reffering to are the fake courts set up by Suudi & others while trying to escape the wrath of the UIC back in June/July, then ofcourse such courts must be dismantled. Islam stands for unity & like any other administration in the world, the judiciary system must be uniform & must have a unified exuctive branch.

Laughing @Salafis.

Do you even know who they are? They are the arch nemesis of the UIC, there aren't any Salafis in the UIC, because Salafis are a dormant branch of Al-Islaax, they don't believe in Jihad & actually call A/Yusuf "Ameer al Muslimiin", they belive in maintaining status quo.

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Postby Sir-Luggoyo » Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:13 pm

[quote="qudhac-m"]Aw Sir Bin Lugoooyo

Awoowo cumaamadaha nimankan yaa u keenay, he must be cayr business man.
if they would have inform me in advance i would have joined them.

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Awoow

The number of the Mujaahedeen is growing by the minute and we need more cimaamado if you can handle a contract.


Awoow horta ninkan seedigaayee AW maad ka qabatid dadka?

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Postby qudhac-m » Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:18 pm

awoow
No problem i can handle that.

awoow halkaa kama hadlo oo waxaan qoro waa la arkaa Da' bac qaadatana ma joogo oo winterkanba ka soo hadhi maayo markaa ha i galaafan.
Edebtaan ku dadaalaa markay halkaa noqoto

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Postby AbdiWahab252 » Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:18 pm

Laughing Luugoyo, please answer my question.

Btw, a healthy oppostion keeps the ruling group honest

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Postby muslim-man » Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:23 pm

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]Luugoyo: But say if the two have different levels of interpretation ? say one is more liberal and the other extreme conservative ? What happens if the two issue differing rulings on a case ?
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Such incidents have happened throughout the ages, then you have something called Ijtimaac, a gathering of the leaders of the courts, jurists & ulama who then argue the rulings. Which ever side presents the most evidence for the rulings, then their rulings must be followed.

Shaafici intrepretation of Islamic law is commonly used today in Somalia, but Imaam Shaafici was weak in some areas of interpretation so others e.g. Imaam Maliki might be adopted.

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Postby Ina Baxar » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:03 pm

War nimanyow , ciidamadii gardheertu waxa la sheegay iney soo galeen meesha UFUROW ku magac-dheer , ee tolow horta ayaa dhulkaa dega? Laughing
Midda labaadna , Abdiwahab suaal buu ku waashay beriyahan danbe, does that mean he senses the end is near?

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Postby AbdiWahab252 » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:09 pm

Inabaxar: Laughing Laughing No way, the end is here for the TFG but it will start the end of the UIC. United against the TFG by contrasting itself with the TFG, the UIC has been successful.

the fun part is how the UIC will try to maintain unity after the TFG dies.


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