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Postby Niya » Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:37 pm

Interesting read:

Saudi Lawyer Takes On Religious Court System
By Faiza Saleh Ambah
Saturday, December 23, 2006


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 79_pf.html

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Postby biko » Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:41 pm

who cares about saudis when there is extermination and decontamination of cinjiir in full process.
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Postby muslim-man » Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:42 pm

Someone needs to declare Jihad on the House of Sa'ud & bring them down. Talk about hypocrisy & abusing Islam.
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Postby Niya » Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:46 pm

Biko, have u read the article?

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Postby biko » Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:54 pm

the first 2 paragraph.

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Postby Jeffrey Dahmer » Sun Dec 24, 2006 4:14 am

[quote="muslim-man"]Someone needs to declare Jihad on the House of Sa'ud & bring them down. Talk about hypocrisy & abusing Islam.[/quote]

There is a manhaj for correcting the rulers, we do not rebel against them.

Sheikh Axmed Ibn Yahya An-Najmi said in his sharh to the sharh as-sunnah of Imam Barbahari:

"The people of knowledge from Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamacah and those who follow the narrations have unanimously agreed that it is impermissible to rebel against the Muslim leaders who are in authority, (regardless of) whether they are just or oppressive."


Ibn Battal said: "There is a proof in this - meaning in the hadeeth of Hudhayfah ibn Al Yaman - for the body of Fuqaha (which shows the obligation) in sticking to the Jamacah of the Muslims and abstaining from rebelling against the oppressive leaders. Because he (the Prophet) described the last group as being callers to the gates of the hellfire and he did not say concerning them ‘you will approve of some
of their deeds and disapprove of some othersÂ’ as he said concerning the first group. They would not be (described as such) unless they were upon other than the truth and even bearing this in mind he commanded with sticking to the Jamacah. At Tabari said: They differed on the (ruling of this) command and upon (the meaning) of the Jamacah. Some of the people stated that this is by way of an obligation and the Jamacah is the great majority."

The Sheikh (Axmed) also said:

The one who speaks with that which is contrary to this has adopted the saying of the innovators, because nobody used to say that it was permissible to rebel against the oppressive leaders except the Khawarij and the MuÂ’tazilah. As for Ahlus Sunnah wa Jamacah then all of them stuck to those evidences (that prohibit rebellion) and all of them believe that it is impermissible to rebel whether by action.

Ibn Abil Izz, the famous Hanafi jurist, and one of the commentators of the of the famous Caqidah At-Tahawiyah treatise said:

"We do not hold (the permissibility of) rebellion against our Imam or those in charge of our affairs even if they are oppressive, nor do we supplicate against them, nor do we withdraw from obeying them. We hold that obedience to them is part of obedience to Allah, the Mighty and Majestic, and [therefore obligatory] as long as they do not order with disobedience. We pray for rectification and pardon for them."

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Postby Grant » Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:59 am

Amazing Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation

There is hope even there.

It sounds like the beginnings of a checks and balances or appeals system.

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Postby gurey25 » Sun Dec 24, 2006 11:21 am

Saudi arabia is sickening


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