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HAWIYES SHOULD HUNG THEIR HEADS LOW.

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HAWIYES SHOULD HUNG THEIR HEADS LOW.

Postby The_Patriot » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:37 pm

they started a war with Xabashi
Involved Darood .
Darood Karbashed Xabashi at IIdale
With the lose of life.
It was time for Hawiyes and the bets they could do was tacticle withdrawal.
Fuuley
they then boarded a plane to Qatar.
These hawiyes just invited Xabashi to their home.
Walle Xaranta walaidhinka matajin.
peace to all the dead mujahids.
This hawiyes are a shame to the Somalis
shame on you.

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Postby Qaarxiye » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:39 pm

I heard the Ogaadeen and Mareexaan ICU fighters fought to death.?

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Postby The_Patriot » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:41 pm

respect to all my dead bros especialy OG and Marexan.
For those Hawiye who thought of escaping to Juba to start the war?
We will haunt you down and send you to Guantanamo.

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Postby Qaarxiye » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:45 pm

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing @send you to Guantanamo.



But yeah those mujaahidiin killed in iidaale were brave even when the rest of the so-called "ICU" army baited out, they decided to finish what they started, win or loose......true bravehearts! Cool

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Postby The_Patriot » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:48 pm

These pussies never fought even once.
They are just good in biliqo and isbaros.

Xabashi are going to steal all that they stole from the people.

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Postby muslim-man » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:51 pm

Only those with good intention of dying for the sake of Allah fought bravely, regardless of clan. I heard there were even jareer volunteers.

My cousin is still missing, he was last seen at Daynuunaay, I spoke with his mother yesterday! Crying or Very sad

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Postby Karbaash_killa » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:54 pm

Patriot..

You are an ungrateful baastard..... The shabaab squad who where the most miltary trained and experience where the once who fought and been fighting from day one where mostly ceyr and other Hawiye! And they fought to the end..as soon as a number of lifes is taken at a battle Darood are quick to boast about bravery!!...

Ogaden has done their people proud.. as they joined UIC to protect our country!

Mareexan on the other hand donÂ’t deserve anything special apart the general prayer for all mujaahids

Darood consist of a very low number of the forces and the majority is clearly Hawiye who died in 80% percent of the battles..

For those Daroods and Hawiye and any other mujaahid ilaahay ha u naxariisto

idinka oo dhan 4 qof baad aheed markii 5 ladinku tiriyay waxaa lasoo istaagteen "we fought to death"

Dagaal mataqaanid ee is daji and pray for those who fought for our land what ever their qabiil is!

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Postby smooth » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:56 pm

What a jackass, another day were the Xaarmongers lie towards each other to make themself's look good.

Hawiye lost most fighters in this war along with OG's

Are you talking about the overall losses of daroods at both side's ? Laughing

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Postby smooth » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:59 pm

KK up

walahi i had to laugh at this thread Laughing

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Postby The_Patriot » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:01 pm

when Darood were busy fighting
The Hawiyes were busy packing their bags ready to flee Confused
so how many hawiyes died during biliqo?

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Postby xoogSADE14 » Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:31 am

waxaanoo kalaa "maxkamadaha diin baan ku taageereeynaa" naga dhaadhicin rabay Laughing

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Postby Gamadid. » Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:53 am

Two of my uncles are dead, one from the mother side with kids and the other from the father's.

At any rate, nowadays people who cheered for the return of the warlords and for the ethiopian army are trying hard to make themselves look good running away from their guilty feelings(these are still the ones who have some dignity left and trying to make up for their loss of faith in who they trully are). What is the benefit they got? Warlords are back, they are hawiye mostly and are here to stay to loot, rob and rape by any means necessary, A/Y is back in the denizen if he is alive and the rumours of his death turn out to be false. Muqdisho, the pride of Somalia, the symbol of somali freedom, the object of opsession with successive ethiopian rulers is in the hands of the ethiopian Army fully prepared for long time occupation. They came with their families in tow. All the signs of an occupation army is here. The warlords know Somalis hate them and fear them, so the Ethiopian army is the only might they have to rule somalis for few years while Ethiopia dictates every policy.

Qof diin iska dhaafee xataa aaminsan nasabadda la sheegto runtii ma qosli karo. Just because people you hate clanwise have surrendered and gave up a symbol you shared with them, knowing the fact that the occupiers do not differentiate in whatever shape or form between them and you should have been a lesson to heed, but it was said "you can only make someone here you if they are alive", with the dead hearts laughing and thinking the loot which has returned to their respective warlord, seriously man, as a somali there is no pride left for us.

Someday soon those of you who supported the death of our free nation will all regerett if you are saved and come back to your senses. The country which gave us the name we carry, Oh Beautiful Somalia, we, those of us who trully loved YOU are shedding tears. Somalia is dead, we are too despondent to accept the fact that we have become the sixth Zone of Ethiopia. I couldn't eat when I was told the Ethiopian army came with their families. I hoped they were there fearing the longer they stayed, the more problems they may have so they would call it short and sweet and leave after they defile the city and plant their flag.

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Postby Ugaas Diini » Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:27 am

[quote]At any rate, nowadays people who cheered for the return of the warlords and for the ethiopian army are trying hard to make themselves look good running away from their guilty feelings(these are still the ones who have some dignity left and trying to make up for their loss of faith in who they trully are). What is the benefit they got? Warlords are back, they are hawiye mostly and are here to stay to loot, rob and rape by any means necessary[/quote]

The fact that you brought up that the Warlords are hawiye tells me you believe it was daroods that brought Ethiopians to Somalia. You fvcking tribalist. Get the fvck out of here man, you suffer from the same disease every somali suffers from. If the warlords are hawiye, it only means they will continue harrassing, killing and maiming other hawiyes.

By the way, just because the south is occupied does not mean Somalia is. Somalia is more than Mogdishu and the south. There is also Puntland and Somaliland, which are, when combined, larger than the south. Are you suggesting these regions are occupied too?

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Postby Gamadid. » Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:13 am

[quote="Ugaas Diini] The fact that you brought up that the Warlords are hawiye tells me you believe it was daroods that brought Ethiopians to Somalia. You fvcking tribalist. Get the fvck out of here man, you suffer from the same disease every somali suffers from. If the warlords are hawiye, it only means they will continue harrassing, killing and maiming other hawiyes.

By the way, just because the south is occupied does not mean Somalia is. Somalia is more than Mogdishu and the south. There is also Puntland and Somaliland, which are, when combined, larger than the south. Are you suggesting these regions are occupied too?[/quote]

You have convinced yourself everything is alright to give yourself non-guilty conscience. Somalia everywhere today is an extension of ethiopia. Where ethiopia doesn't rule itself others who can not disagree with her rule. Is it strange Galkacyo is their Airbase from which they Bombed Muqdisho and Baladweyne? That their army is in that town admittedly welcomed by Adde Muse? What about Somaliland? Simply another Ethiopian province. There is no somali region free from ethiopian influence.

Anyway, moving on, You said the same thing I did when it comes to the warlords, so i don't understand what made you upset on that point. The warlords are Hawiye in their majority. To name a few:

Beebe -Abgaal
Maxamed Dheere -Abgaal
Qanyare - Murursade
Abdiwaal- Cayr
Qeybdiid - Sacad
Aydiid jr- Sacad


Some of the warlords have real power within the TFG for their influence and because that is the only way the TFG can be made representative of the clans, their past crimes are nothing. The rest are in their home turf and to appease the clan god, the TFG itself, an organization for the warlords and by the warlords doesn't have the moral grounds to speak ill of them or make them accountable. The TFG have gone after the wrong people while it forgot they are the ones who were forced to seek help from Ethiopia when no one wanted them in their backyard.

I am sure given the somali mentality, the TFG supporters who cheered for the ethiopian army fighting their fellow somalis had one thing in mind, A/Y's rule or the respective warlord from their clan making a come back, and the defeat of a clan they didn't like. All combined, they were blind to the realities and how their cheerleading was based on emotions. Only few were Anti-islam and didn't like anything islamic so they joined the chorus anyway.


You concluded correctly that the warlords will rape and kill, but this time may be they can't openly do so but cause irreconcilable disputes and no one can do anything to them. But then, the dreamers can always come up with something and say the TFG will do something about it. Think again, don't blind yourslef, the TFG belongs to the warlords.

the only people who got heart are somalis in gerenal whether all of them understadn it, feel it, is a different matter. The men who benefitted are the same men who waged wars, raped the country and the poeple. They are here under ethiopian protection.

Waxba yaan dullinimada la quruxsanin, it looks ugly however you lot put it.

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Postby Somaliweyn » Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:42 am

Beebe -Abgaal
Maxamed Dheere -Abgaal
Qanyare - Murursade
Abdiwaal- Cayr
Qeybdiid - Sacad
Aydiid jr- Sacad


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How to defeat these warlords for good is simple.

These warlords can only be defeated by internal forces.

It was a big mistake for ceyr-led UIC to try to defeat these warlords who mostly are non-Ceyr........as you can see now their respective subclans have welcomed them back.

Physically ousting these warlords from the capital or Somalia is not enough. They will come back every time as long there exists some support for them from their subclans.

The only way to defeat these good for nothing monkeys is internal not external.

For example, How to defeat M/Dheere?


Simple, modern and progressive people from Maxamed Dheere's clan should challenge his rule, of course they need to start from the grassroot level. These modern and progressive Abgaals need to stimulate basic development like for example education, healtcare, media freedom etc.

Next level is winning the support and trust of Abgaal people in Sh.Dhexe just by helping them in their hardships. As the level of support increases and the area were these progressive people operate widens they can demand more political freedom from the warlord, they can demand that Abgaals in Sh/Dhexe are given what they deserve, can choose who they want as governers of their regions etc. This will gradually isolate the warlord as he is not willing to share his power with enlightened Abgaals since he himself is not so educated and as the isolation becomes severe the warlord will revert to oppressive rule and will alienate the last tacit support he had from some of his people.

At the end the will of the masses is stronger than the will of the Dictator as history has proven many times.


If every Hawiye had done like that within his own subclan these warlords would not have survived 15 years.

Ofcourse, you need modern, progressive, patiently and determined Hawiye men to accomplish the above scenario.


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