Flasha Jews are Claiming Somalia

[COSTA]

http://www.allsanaag.com/Details.asp?id=863

Jariirada Alsiyasah ee ka soo baxda dalka Kuwayd ayaa taariikhdu markay ahayd 19/1/2007 Daabacday Jimcihii maqaal cinwaankisu ahaa ,Yuhuudii oo la taxaaluftay falaashaha Ethopia kana xoreeyey tahdiidkii ay maxaakim Islaamigu ku hayeen dhulka Muqadaska ah ee Somalia .

Magaca ilaahay baanu ku dhaaranaye,waxaanu ku noqonaynaa hantidii walaalahayo iyo Awoowayashayo Yuhuuda ahaa ee ka yimi ama ka soo jeeday Somalia ,waxaanu kaloo ku noqonaynaa si aanu u xusuusano Anbiyadii waaweynaa ee degenaaa dhulka Somaliyeed sida (nebigii Armiya iyo nebi Muusihii madoobaa ) kuwaso ka ilaaliyey dhulka somaliyeed khatar ku timaada.

Kana dhigay wadankan oo ka mid ah Afrika Madowna ahlaanbad baxaysa ,mana ka yeelayno Xag jir kasta xitaa hadii ay ku qabsadeen Diintooda Islaamka ah ee ay wataan,wadankan oo ah kii asliga ahaa ee aanu ka soo unkanay oo ay xaq u leeyihiin dadka yuhuuda ahi.

Sidaas daraadeed waxaanu Caalamka u sheegaynaa inaanan marna ka tegeyn,kana tanaasulayn hantidayada iyo dhulkayaga oo ay naga xadeen xoogag Somaliyeed,mana ka aamusayno ilaa uu nooga soo noqonayo xaqayagu .

Waxaana Mujtamaca Aduunka waajib ku ah ,sidii xaqaa dib loogu soo celin lahaa dadka Yuhuuda ah hadaladan waxaa sheegay 1500 oo Qof oo Yuhuuda Somalida sheegatay asal ahaan oo shir ku qabtay qalbiga ama badhtamaha Talaabiib ee caasumada yuhuuda shirkan oo la qabtay taariikhdii 20/12/2006 ujeedadiisuna waxa ayahayd (waxaa waajib ah inaynu ku noqono dhulkii muqadaska ahaa kaaso hada loo yaqaan somalia).

Waxaana shirkaas ka soo qayb galay mas,uuliyiin waaweyn oo Yuhuud ah kuwaasoo ahaa kuwo lagu marti qaaday ,iyadoo loo sii mariyey saxaafada kala duwan marti qaadkooda,iyadoo loo sheegayo inay waajib tahay inay goob joog ka ahaadaan shirkan dhamaana ay ka qayb qaataan bulshada kala duwan ee Isra,el siyaasad ahaan,dhaqaale ahaan,iyo waliba Milatari ahaanba,iyadoo looga tashanayo sidii loo soo celin lahaa dhulkaa iyo hantida kaga maqan Isra,el dhulka hada Somaliya loo yaqaan taasoo ay sheegeen inaanay marna uga tanaasulayn Somalida .

Shirkani waxa uu ahaa mid muhiim gaara u lahaa dadka asal ahaan Yuhuuda ah ,intii jahwareerka siyaasadeed ay somaliya ku jirtay walibana uu soo cusboonaaday dagaalkii u dhaxeeyey maxaakimta Islaamiga ah iyo xoogaga dawlada Ethopia oo taageerayey dawlada ku meel gaadhka ah .

Gabadh lagu magacabo (waytani hoostan)oo ka mid ah Yuhuuda Maraykanka ah ayaa booqatay afarsano ka hor dalka ay asal ahaan ka soo jeedo ee Isra,el qaraabadeeda qaar ka mid ah oo ku dhaqan dalka Isra,el waxa ay sheegtay in dalka asal ahaan ay Israe,l u leedahay uu yahay dalka hada Somalia loo yaqaan ,hase yeeshee ay wakhti hore ka haajireen welina tiro aad u yari kaga sii hadhsan yihiin ,waxa kale oo jariirada Alsiyaasa ee ka soo baxdaa Kuwayd xusaysaa warbixino uu soo saaro maxadka siyaasada israail sanadkiiba mar tii ugu danbeyseyna ay soo baxday 2006 inay jiraan weli raadad israel kaga tagtay oo wax kaga hadhsan yihiin dalka hada somalia loo yaqaan.

Sida meelo lagu caabudo diinta yuhuuda ,hase yeeshee ay yihiin meelo sir ah oo ay adag tahay in la ogaado,waxay kaloo jariirado xusaysaa wakhtigii dhowaa ee ciidamada etoobiya galeen somaliya inay sii raaceen shaqsiyad ka soo jeeda falaashada ethoopia ,kuwaasoo isku dayey inay gacan siiyaan hadii ay wax kaga hadhsan yihiin yuhuuda somalida ah asal ahaan kuwaaso aad u tiro yar .

Waxaa kaloo jariirada ay sawiraysaa meelo macbado ah oo lagu caabudo diinta yuhuuda oo ku yaala gudaha somalia ,meelahas oo ay ku timaantay inay yihiin meelo sir ah iyo waliba sawiro isugu jira dad carab u eg iyo kuwo somali u eg oo ay ku timaantay inay yihiin yuhuuda somalida xubno ka mid ah oo aanay sheegin meesha ay hada ku sugan yihiin.

waxaa turjumay Xasan Xuseen Shide.

Kuweyd City

[Axlaan]

That's not a news buddy, since all the Idoors in Somaliland are decendants of Flasha Jews????

[intellex]

Hey Axlaan.. How is my Dashiishle sister doing??

[Axlaan]

Good intellex. How've u been...what is dashuushle?

[intellex]

[muktaar]

intlx

give it up motha fuka, stop stalkin the ladies, u are faggot, so cum and and suk on my huge unumcised qaldaan ceeb, motha fukaa

[intellex]

[quote="muktaar"]intlx

give it up motha fuka, stop stalkin the ladies, u are faggot, so cum and and suk on my huge unumcised qaldaan ceeb, motha fukaa [/quote]

are u crying babe?? come to papi and get your sperma on

[muktaar]

intlx
i missed ur tite somali anus, blud
i really do miss it

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

I always find it funny how Somalis like to caste insult based on someones ancestory - which is haram by the way.

When I was in Somalia, I saw a lot of Jews. There were Somali Jews everywhere. So I can understand the claim.

[karkaar]

Mac are you serious, jews in somalia....You sure they weren't lying to earn few buck for their perhaps desperate family and thinking this white man is stupid enough to fall for the trap..

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Karkar
That was, ahhh, tongue in cheek. I have never met a Somali Jew in my life.

[karkaar]

at mac

Yeah me neither, but i met an irish somali...

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

That's Somali Cadaan.

[fagash_killer]

yes their are somali jewish. what about tribes like yibir? they settle mostly in somaliland puntland and somalia. falasha jews got the same dna as somalis. you can also find somali jews in israel. just like the falasha jews who immigrated to israel in the mid 70 80 and 90ste

[fagash_killer]

DJIBOUTI JOURNAL
Somalia's 'Hebrews' See a Better Day
By IAN FISHER JIBOUTI -- The sultan of the Jews in Somalia is a handsome, silver-haired man named Ahmed Jama Hersi who does not know the first thing about Judaism. He is a Muslim, as were his ancestors back at least 800 years. But he and his people are treated badly, cursed as descendants of Israelites. The name of the tribe is Yibir, or Hebrew.
"Even our young people," he said, "they are ashamed when you ask them what tribe they belong to. They will not say Yibir."

Not much is known about the lineage of the Yibir, one of Somalia's "sab," or outcast, clans. But if Somalis succeed in creating a new central government -- as they have been trying to do since March -- the Yibir will for the first time taste political legitimacy and respect. In the 225-member assembly envisioned for a new Somalia, the Yibir get one seat.
A conscious effort is being made to broaden political power in Somalia, traditionally held by old men from the four major clans. In the new assembly, women, the bedrock of Somali economic and family life, have been allocated 25 seats.

Minority clans like the Yibir, Midgan and Tomal will have 24 seats, if the assembly is ever translated from a nice idea at a peace conference here in neighboring Djibouti to an actual government in Somalia, which has been without one since 1991.

"This is the most broad-based process that Somalia has ever known," said David Stephen, the representative of Kofi Annan, the United Nations secretary general, at the peace talks. "Never before have women and minorities taken part in discussions about their country."

The question is whether this means anything. It is far from certain that any new government will ever actually sit in Somalia, though hopes are high. Perhaps more important is whether the elderly men from the major clans will cede any of their authority. Mr. Stephen said some men bluntly say that they "are only doing this to please the United Nations."

But still the minority groups, who prefer to be called the Alliance, and women are talking about the power they theoretically hold if they vote as a bloc.

The top positions in any new government are likely to be doled out to the major clans, and any clan that makes alliances with the women and minorities in the assembly is more likely to win.

"We have to have one voice and one interest as women," said Asha Haji Elmi, leader of the women delegates to the conference. She conceded that there would be pressure for women to vote with their clans rather than as women. Twenty of the women's seats are assigned to the four major clans and the remaining five to the minority clans.

"It's difficult," she said, "but we have to overcome the obstacles."

It is, at any rate, a high-minded exercise, pushed strongly by the peace conference's host, President Ismael Omar Gelleh of Djibouti -- though Somalis are quick to point out that Mr. Gelleh's own government is not nearly so liberal as his vision for Somalia's.

"It is not in our tradition," said Mahmoud Imam Omar, an elder in one of the major clans, the Hawiye, speaking of the inclusion of women. "President Gelleh has made us do it. But we have accepted it."

A Somali businessman, Muhammad Ali Muhammad, said it was an experiment worth trying. "We have seen how the men have devastated the country," he said. "So maybe the women and minority groups would be better."

A new government is, of course, no guarantee of equality. Then again, the Yibir do not have much to begin with.

Mr. Hersi, 68, who has been the elected leader of the Yibir for 22 years, was asked to speak at one of the opening sessions of the peace conference two months ago. He noted that the Yibir had suffered terribly during the years of war but wanted badly to forgive and move on.

"In the civil war I lost my son, my wife, my brother, my dignity and my self-respect," he told the delegates. "But still I have come here to work for reconciliation."

Part of the bad treatment, he concedes, is the support of many Yibir for the dictator Muhammad Siad Barre. When he was overthrown in 1991, Mr. Hersi fled the country with surviving members of his family to live in Nairobi, Kenya's capital.

But part of it is simply that they are one of the low castes of Somalis, and particularly that they are believed to be ethnic Jews in a strongly Muslim country.

"We were never given our rights," he said.

For many years the Yibir were forbidden to be educated, and Mr. Hersi says he can barely spell his name. They do work that is considered to be base, like metalworking and shoemaking.

Traditionally many earned money through the Somali belief, stretching back perhaps centuries, that it is lucky to give the Yibir a small amount of money when a son is born or at a marriage.

Mr. Hersi cannot say exactly how or when his ancestors made it to Somalia, though he believes that about 25,000 Yibir live there and in neighboring countries like Ethiopia, Djibouti and Kenya. Stories passed down from his forefathers have it that they came as Arabic-speaking teachers more than 1,000 years ago.

He said there was no relation between them and the Jews of neighboring Ethiopia, many of whom still practice Judaism. It is hard to say exactly how the Yibir are Jews, or why they treated so badly because of it.

The Yibir not only know nothing about Judaism, but they also say they have no intention of converting or, like the Ethiopian Jews, seeking resettlement in Israel.

"That would only make more problems," said another Yibir, Muhammad Ali Hassan, a trader in the emirate of Dubai on the Persian Gulf.

The process of getting their one seat has been typically difficult. Mr. Hersi said he had never received an invitation even to come to the conference, though he made it here with the help of the United Nations. In negotiations with other outcast clans, the Yibir originally were given two seats in Parliament, but a few days ago, one was stripped from them. Still, he said, one seat is a start.

"Before we had nothing," he said. "This is the beginning, the first step."

NY Times August 15, 2000