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Iran Plans To Nuke Europe, US - Sanctions Urged !!!!!!!!!!!

Postby Daanyeer » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:12 pm

Iran and nuclear terrorism. Not a threat, a promise.




By Joel Leyden
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Jerusalem ----- February 28, 2007 .... An Israel security official told the Israel News Agency that the recent launch of a missile from Iran into space illustrated a direct threat to both Europe's and US national security.

On February 25, Iran launched a missile reaching space. "Iran has successfully launched its first space missile made by Iranian scientists," the head of Iran's aerospace research center, Mohsen Bahrami, was quoted as saying. On Saturday, Iran Defense Minister Mostafa Mohammad Najjar said Iran was planning to build a satellite and launcher.

"Iran has no plans to land a man on the moon," Col. Adam an Israeli security source told the INA. "The same technology is used to build intercontinental ballistic missiles. This Iran space launch is not a threat to Israel. The Iranians need not reach a space orbit to attack Israel, but such a high orbit would be needed to deliver a nuclear payload into Europe or the US."

Iran launched its first satellite, Sina-1, into orbit from a Russian rocket in 2005 and has said it planned to modify its Shahab-3 missile, which Iran says has a range of about 2,000 km (1,250 miles), to launch satellites. Bahrami said the missile was built by his center in cooperation of the Defense and Science Ministries. He gave no further details. Despite announcing what would be a major advance in Iran's missile technology, the news was mentioned only once by the main state TV news channel and was not carried by other Iranian official media.

"Take a look at the news media, you don't see a word about this launch today," said Adam. "Western governments were not prepared for Iran to have a nuclear delivery system up and running. Intel is hard to come by regarding Iran. It is very difficult to have real time Intel coming from Iran as it is difficult for operatives to penetrate Iranian society. Most of our Intel comes from external sources, and these sources are reactive, passive, not proactive."

"If we don't see severe economic sanctions coming from Europe in the next few weeks, we will witness a catastrophe," said a source at the Israel Ministry for Foreign Affairs. The source would not give his name because he would lose his position, but the matter of urgency had him staring at this writer praying to get the message out.

"Iran has no plans to land a man on the moon," Col. Adam an Israeli security source told the INA. "The same technology is used to build intercontinental ballistic missiles. This Iran space launch is not a threat to Israel. The Iranians need not reach a space orbit to attack Israel, but such a high orbit would be needed to deliver a nuclear payload into Europe or the US."

- Israeli security source


"Iran is no different than Nazi Germany", the MFA source said. "They too built up an army, resources and created the V-2." The V-2 was the first man-made object launched into space, during test flights that reached an altitude of 189 km (117 miles) in 1944. "While Germany was putting the finishing touches to the V-2 which was eventually used against Britain, the world stood by wanting to talk. Now we have Iran repeating history, declaring to "wipe Israel off the map" while planting bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan, one which nearly killed US Vice President Cherney during his visit there a few days ago."

"We have two options. The West can attack Iran which would provoke both Iran and Syria to respond with chemical weapons or we can place immediate and severe sanctions on Iran, thereby reducing their ability to create and use atomic weapons against the West. One should understand Iranian fundamental mentality. These people are not threatening the "infidels" of the West, they are promising to attack as soon as they have both the delivery and nuclear weapons capability."

Security analysts in Europe state that two overriding EU security interests are at stake: avoiding a war with Iran and preventing Iran from becoming a nuclear power. These two apparently contradictory interests can be reconciled and translated into a common strategy by adopting a three-pronged approach based on efficient isolation, effective containment, and direct negotiations.

The U.N. Security Council has recently slapped sanctions on Iran that bar the transfer of technology and know-how to Iran's nuclear and missile programs, a move that was pushed for by the West because of fears that Iran is seeking to build atomic bombs. Tehran says its nuclear program is purely civilian and aims to generate electricity. The Iran defense minister was quoted by a newspaper as saying: "Building a satellite and satellite launcher, as well as (previously) launching the first Iranian satellite called Sina with Russian cooperation, and becoming a member of the space club, are part of the Defense Ministry's plans."

It is up to Europe to prevent the two worst developments in Iran - war and nuclear armament - by acting jointly and with determination. Vital European and transatlantic interests are at stake. It is thus Europe's responsibility - and especially Germany's, as the current EU president - to act now.

Iran said yesterday it would never suspend uranium enrichment as demanded by the West, a day after world powers agreed to work on a new UN resolution to pressure Tehran to back down over its nuclear program. Officials from the five permanent UN Security Council members - the United States, France, Russia, China and Britain - plus Germany, who met in London on Monday, also said they were committed to a negotiated resolution to the standoff. The United States, which says "all options" are on the table while insisting it wants a peaceful solution, has ratcheted up pressure by sending a second aircraft carrier to the Gulf.

"Suspending uranium enrichment is an illegal and illegitimate demand ... and it will never happen," Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki was quoted by the official IRNA news agency as saying. Another agency said he backed atomic talks but without preconditions. Iran's open refusal to halt enrichment, a process it insists it only wants to make fuel for nuclear power plants, is echoed by some Iranian officials in private, suggesting the public pronouncements are more than just rhetoric. US State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said after the London meeting world powers would hold phone talks on Thursday to discuss elements of a new resolution.

"Iran which denies that a European Holocaust ever took place, is now planning to create a second Holocaust in Europe and in the US"

- Israel MFA source


Clearing its stand on the Iran nuclear standoff, China has said that it did not favor the use of sanctions on Iran. Beijing has called for the peaceful resolution of the Iranian nuclear issue through diplomatic means. "Sanctions are not the purpose," Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesman, Qin Gang said. "Any move of the Security Council should help resolving the issue through peaceful and appropriate means," he said adding hat Beijing's stand on the issue is consistent. "We advocate a peaceful solution through diplomatic negotiation," he added.

China has significant business ties and energy interests in Iran.

"Iran which denies that a European Holocaust ever took place, is now planning to create a second Holocaust in Europe and in the US," said the Israel MFA source. "Europe will be first to feel this nuclear suicide bomb, as London, Moscow, Madrid, Rome and Paris are now in range of Iranian missiles. We no longer have the luxury of time to implement sanctions. This is not a movie. This is not the "24" TV series about nuclear terrorism. This is real. Sanctions worked against North Korea, they can and will work against Iran."

"Iran has over 20 intermediate range missiles that can reach continental Europe," stated Riki Ellison, President of the Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance. "These 20 BM-25 missiles were purchased from North Korea in 2005 and are a variant of the Soviet SS-N-6 (R-27) submarine-launched ballistic missile. With a range beyond 3,000 kilometers, these missiles pose a direct threat to central Europe." Last week Iran launched a sub-orbit missile that traveled 94 miles into space and declared their intent to launch satellites in the near future. On last week's launch of a sub-orbital missile by Iran, Ellison noted that "Having orbital satellite launch capability, Iran would have access to deliver payloads to anyplace on earth, as was first powerfully demonstrated 50 years ago by the Soviet Union's launch of Sputnik in 1957."

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Re: Iran Plans To Nuke Europe, US - Sanctions Urged !!!!!!!!!!!

Postby kadarre » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:04 pm

I cant wait for it to happen.I was furious when they invaded Iraq but i want hell to break loose in the middle east now.

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Re: Iran Plans To Nuke Europe, US - Sanctions Urged !!!!!!!!!!!

Postby Karbaash_killa » Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:09 pm

Vivia iran..i hope the nuclear bomb America!!

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Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:04 am

Are you guys whacked? The US has some 6,000 strategic nuclear warheads at its disposal. What do you think our response to a nuclear attack would be?

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Re: Iran Plans To Nuke Europe, US - Sanctions Urged !!!!!!!!!!!

Postby Padishah » Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:45 am

Another example of the mentality of aimless destruction from the South; Karbaash Killa.

First of all, the Iranians are not suicidally insane, unlike you. Second of all, Iran would be turned into a glass parking lot in the Middle East if it even remotely thought about trying such a thing. Third, Iran doesn't have the bomb, so this is all academic, if you would dare call it that.

Don't forget, the US has used Nukes before, and will not hesitate again.

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Postby Seoma [Crawler2] » Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:49 am

[quote="Karbaash_killa"]Vivia iran..i hope the nuclear bomb America!![/quote]

are you okey? do you think nuclear war is a joke? obvously people in middle east have something to loose. their lives.

some one already said rightfully iran doinst have necular yet. the one western loosing sleep over is just bigining to use as peaceful need that could after atleast 5 years could be devoloped into nuclear bomb.

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Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:52 am

Padishah
Spot on.

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As much as I love ya, I would not be convinced the Iranian intent is peaceful. I think Iran is pursing this strategy fully intent on developing nuclear weapons. Iran wants to be a serious player and it wants to own the gulf and establish Persian hegemony there. But acquiring weapons and using them is not the same thing.

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Postby Seoma [Crawler2] » Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:57 am

if your analizes right iran needs to keep the profile a bit low. this is not going for her intrests. this is dangerious game if you're not well equipped. i hope mullas in iran are full aware of the situation. they should know they cant count on china or russia's lip talk.

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Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:01 am

IT is a dangerous game. The Iranians (Ahmedinijad) believe that we are so tied down now with Iraq, that we no longer have the capacity to engage Iran militarily. They are, of course, wrong. They haven't adequately walked that dog. There are different measures of engagement. We lack the capacity to occupy Iran, but we do not lack the capacity to destroy it as a functioning society.

And you are right, the Russians and Chinese WOULD NEVER come to their aide in the event of a general conflict.

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Postby Seoma [Crawler2] » Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:08 am

i would hate to see them like Sadam. he could talk the talk n couldnt walk the walk. if they are doing it they should make sure their people are behind them.

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Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:09 am

Even if their people were behind them (and they're not) it would not make a difference. Wars are not decided by people, they are decided by armies, geograghy and resources.

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Postby Seoma [Crawler2] » Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:15 am

atleast something better than wht happened to sadam.

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Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:21 am

IT serves no ones interests for things to go that way. Let's hope Iran stops short of provoking a major conflict and learns to accept the status quo.

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Postby Padishah » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:35 am

As of now, the American NPT violations are where the provocations are coming from; coupled with an intense media frenzy to turn the figurehead of Ahmedinejad into an all powerful Hitlerian Fuhrer type with a Messianic complex.

While the Americans were harping on about Iran's yet to be started nuclear program, DPRK got its act together and produced the bomb. Now isn't that mixed messages for you.

Again, American blundering makes the situation worse. Whether by accident, or bey design, I don't know.

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Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:41 am

"As of now, the American NPT violations are where the provocations are coming from; coupled with an intense media frenzy to turn the figurehead of Ahmedinejad into an all powerful Hitlerian Fuhrer type with a Messianic complex."

Ahmedinijad has deliberately played up that image. He does that for domestic consumption. Nobody believes he's "all powerful" but it is quite clear that Iran wants to see Israel dismantled and the Israelis are justifably concerned that they could come under nuclear attack if radical elements seized control over the Iranian state.

"While the Americans were harping on about Iran's yet to be started nuclear program, DPRK got its act together and produced the bomb. Now isn't that mixed messages for you."

The DPRK just has a head start. There was nothing the US could do to stop it, short of attack (sound familiar). Stop pretending this is some sort of US policy failure. Short of war, it was not preventable. Also, all nations are not equal. North Korea sits on massive reserves of nothing. Kim possessing a few warheads doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.

"Again, American blundering makes the situation worse. Whether by accident, or bey design, I don't know."

Not true and a totally unfair critique. The US has been very restrained and for quite a while handed the problem to the Europeans - who simply did not know what to do with Iran. You seem to reflexively blame everything and anything any misdeed by any country on America.


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