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Re: Puntland new frontier for Oil! [New]

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:06 am
by Somaliman%
the oil is not only in nugaal province, but nugaal valley which cover many parts of sool also.

somaliland claims sool but we all know thats baseless and will not go anywhere with their false claim.

the people of sool are part of puntland, and the oil found in sool will rebuild sool and other parts of puntland same with oil found in nugaal and bari....

no qabil or local clans can refuse to have oil explorations in their territory simply because the territory is owned by the government which represents them and they have members in.

we will not have another majiyahn incident.

Re: Puntland new frontier for Oil! [New]

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:57 am
by Xamud.
Theres Oil In Hawd\kiliinka shanad ,Mudug, and Bari as well somaha? This means big money! Cool

Re: Puntland new frontier for Oil! [New]

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:58 am
by Enemy_Of_Mad_Mullah
[quote="Somaliman%"]we will not have another majiyahn incident.[/quote]


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Re: Puntland new frontier for Oil! [New]

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:01 am
by Steeler [Crawler2]
"somaliland claims sool but we all know thats baseless and will not go anywhere with their false claim.

the people of sool are part of puntland, and the oil found in sool will rebuild sool and other parts of puntland same with oil found in nugaal and bari...."

Somaliman
Just wishing away an issue doesn't make it go away. Somaliland does not consider its claim to be baseless, hence the potential for conflict.

Re: Puntland new frontier for Oil! [New]

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:13 am
by Somaliman%
well question is who controls sool now. puntland... now tell me their claim is not baseless..

and if they get in our way, we will give them the conflict they desire and we'll see whos sorry.

Re: Puntland new frontier for Oil! [New]

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:19 am
by Steeler [Crawler2]
"now tell me their claim is not baseless..

and if they get in our way, we will give them the conflict they desire and we'll see whos sorry."

In the great Somalinet tradition, you are expressing yourself like a focking moron. Their claim is based upon the original border of Somaliland. Therefore it is not baseless. It may be, in view of the population living there, not neccessarily the strongest claim. But it is NOT baseless.

Secondly, YOU (the Majertain) have YOUR HANDS FULL with the situation in Mogadischu. A second conflict opening up on your western frontier would be a serious military problem. So just howling about how something is basebless, or how we will make them sorry, doesn't mean it's true. Neither you nor I know what the force dispositions or oders of battle are for the potential combatants, but given the current resource and population distributions, and the current conflict in the south in which the Majertain have embroiled themselves, it stands to reason that Somaliland can apply more force right now than Puntland in Sanaag or Sool.

Re: Puntland new frontier for Oil! [New]

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:23 am
by Somali-Transporter
How come it never rains in puntland

Re: Puntland new frontier for Oil! [New]

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:27 am
by Steeler [Crawler2]
It never rains in Puntlands deserts...............

Re: Puntland new frontier for Oil! [New]

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:34 am
by Somaliman%
it is baseless because how can you claim something thats not in your control, something in the first place you dont rightfully own, and based on original borders that were created by the british. this land belongs to the people of sool and sanaag who by the way are not majerten, and the situation in xamar is in full control not by majerten but by other somalis other than haawiye, and the african union peace keepers as well ethopia. and if somaliland thinks it can try and take advantage of that then it will have more of a problem, it will have the darood people defending its territory. hence darood is very big and not only majerten. puntland is darood region. inhabited mainly by the harti who settle in sool and sanaag.

Re: Puntland new frontier for Oil! [New]

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:41 am
by Steeler [Crawler2]
it is baseless because how can you claim something thats not in your control, something in the first place you dont rightfully own, and based on original borders that were created by the british.

That's easy. On a micro scale, a lot of people have been displaced from their property during the civil war. But if they came return, they would make claim to that property even though they do not control it right now.

As for borders created by the British, most ofthe African borders are a hold over from colonial times, and those borders remain valid today.

So it is most assuredly NOT baseless. It is a point on which two well meaning people (or not well meaning) can, in fact, disagree.

Puntlanders and Somalilanders should learn to have a little more respect for each others viewpoints.

"this land belongs to the people of sool and sanaag who by the way are not majerten, and the situation in xamar is in full control not by majerten but by other somalis other than haawiye, and the african union peace keepers as well ethopia. and if somaliland thinks it can try and take advantage of that then it will have more of a problem, it will have the darood people defending its territory. hence darood is very big and not only majerten. puntland is darood region. inhabited mainly by the harti who settle in sool and sanaag."

Puntland is controlled by the Majertain, the majority of the population is Majertain, and it is not likely to get support from the rest of the Darood. So forget it. The Marehan are not going to come to your aide. And the President of Somaliland is Dulbahante, so I would not count on much help from them. No, Somaliman, the Majertain are alone.

Re: Puntland new frontier for Oil! [New]

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:43 am
by Karbaash_killa
OIl is in Mudug too..... Im rich Bitch Laughing

Re: Puntland new frontier for Oil! [New]

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:48 am
by Somaliman%
i see your not on full scale with your knowledge on somalia the president of somaliland is not dhulbahante. what makes you think isaaq will make a dhulbahante their leader they hate darood more than anything.

and the land of sool and sanaag was never theirs how can they return to it...

if darood dont come to majerten aid then darood is doomed because after majerten haawiye will come to them. together we stand devided we fall.

i call for the people of somaliland and puntland to make peace, somalilanders are very peaceful people we have alot in common with them, in terms of the peace our regions have being enjoying for the last 16 years, the only way forward is dialogue. and i hope that happens.

Re: Puntland new frontier for Oil! [New]

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:52 am
by Steeler [Crawler2]
"i see your not on full scale with your knowledge on somalia the president of somaliland is not dhulbahante. what makes you think isaaq will make a dhulbahante their leader they hate darood more than anything."

Riyale is Dulbahante my friend. He was a compromise since the Isaaq could not determine for themselves who should be president.

"and the land of sool and sanaag was never theirs how can they return to it..."

The land was theirs, according to the colonial boundary. Isaaq may not have lived there, but old British Somalilland and the short lived Somaliland republic did control it.

"if darood dont come to majerten aid then darood is doomed because after majerten haawiye will come to them. together we stand devided we fall."

They will not come to your aide. In point of fact, they would be hard pressed to do so, given the geograghy. The people of the Jubba River valley are poorly positioned to move north.

"i call for the people of somaliland and puntland to make peace, somalilanders are very peaceful people we have alot in common with them, in terms of the peace our regions have being enjoying for the last 16 years, the only way forward is dialogue. and i hope that happens."

So if you want that, then stop ignoring their claims as baseless. That is no position from which you can begin a negotiation. Saying "Your claim is baseless, get lost" is not conducive to friendly relations between the two stateletts.

Re: Puntland new frontier for Oil! [New]

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:56 am
by Spragga Benz
[quote="MAD MAC"]
Puntland is controlled by the Majertain, the majority of the population is Majertain, and it is not likely to get support from the rest of the Darood. So forget it. The Marehan are not going to come to your aide. And the President of Somaliland is Dulbahante, so I would not count on much help from them. No, Somaliman, the Majertain are alone.[/quote]

The president of Somaliland is Dhulbahante? If there is one clan out there, the Majeerteen can count on for help, it would be the Dhulbahante without a doubt.

Re: Puntland new frontier for Oil! [New]

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:58 am
by Spragga Benz
[quote="MAD MAC"]
Riyale is Dulbahante my friend. He was a compromise since the Isaaq could not determine for themselves who should be president.
[/quote]

That's it, you're pale azz is officially banned from discussing Somali politics.