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Country and Homeland

Postby Hyperactive » Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:00 am

Is acountry is very different from homeland? Is there a significant difference between loving one's homeland, and loving one's country?

Please explain how it's different or not different.

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Re: Country and Homeland

Postby Osman » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:24 pm

Homeland: Somalia

Country: US

I like it here. However, Home is where the heart is and my heart is in Somalia.

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Re: Country and Homeland

Postby Asraa » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:26 pm

country is like where you at right now feel me buh homeland is your hoyos homeland = motherland get it b

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Re: Country and Homeland

Postby e! » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:03 pm

[quote="hyperactive"]Is acountry is very different from homeland? Is there a significant difference between loving one's homeland, and loving one's country?

Please explain how it's different or not different.[/quote]

Do your own homework Laughing

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Re: Country and Homeland

Postby neocon_2007 » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:05 pm

[quote="e!"][quote="hyperactive"]Is acountry is very different from homeland? Is there a significant difference between loving one's homeland, and loving one's country?

Please explain how it's different or not different.[/quote]

Do your own homework Laughing[/quote]


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Re: Country and Homeland

Postby Hyperactive » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:05 pm

I think One's homeland is the place to which one has a cultural bond with, and whose people are of the same ethnicity. but a country is a much brouder concept. It generally includes many regions with differing ethnic populations and a vast variety of cultures.

for example, assuming you are from Somalia, your country is Somalia, but what you can claim to be your my homeland is the region of the province of {whatever} that your parents are from.

The difference is that you have a sense of identity with your homeland, since the culture and ethnicity of the people living there is the same as yours, but this sense of identity does not exist for me with all the regions in the country.

To explain more, I feel no personal connection at all to the all ethiopian provinces. Our cultures are so different that there is very little that I can relate to with them.

In this way country is an artificial construct. The boundaries of the country can change any day, so if you love your country you love something that has no concrete reality in your mind. you just love a name. One's homeland is completely independent of any political processes. even if one's homeland is no longer part of the country in which it originally was, it doesn't change the fact that it is still his homeland.
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Re: Country and Homeland

Postby Hyperactive » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:07 pm

[quote="e!"][quote="hyperactive"]Is acountry is very different from homeland? Is there a significant difference between loving one's homeland, and loving one's country?

Please explain how it's different or not different.[/quote]

Do your own homework Laughing[/quote]

This wasn't my home work. I was having some debate with my Sudanesse friend. Then I found how every one not lucky as Somalis where every one has same culture and ehnicity.

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Re: Country and Homeland

Postby e! » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:15 pm

[quote="hyperactive"][quote="e!"][quote="hyperactive"]Is acountry is very different from homeland? Is there a significant difference between loving one's homeland, and loving one's country?

Please explain how it's different or not different.[/quote]

Do your own homework Laughing[/quote]

This wasn't my home work. I was having some debate with my Sudanesse friend. Then I found how every one not lucky as Somalis where every one has same culture and ehnicity.[/quote]

LOOOOL

Not all somalis have the ethnicity

20% of the somali pop is sab---Mixed with bantu and non african somalis
5% are Bantus
0.5% is shanshi

Culture: North is a lot different...Language,clothes etc

Not to mention all those af maaay speakers Laughing

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Re: Country and Homeland

Postby Hyperactive » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:17 pm

So you agree with me that country is different than homeland based what we just talked about it?

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Re: Country and Homeland

Postby neocon_2007 » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:18 pm

[quote="hyperactive"]So you agree with me that country is different than homeland based what we just talked about it?[/quote]

country is where you reside

Homeland= place of orgin

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Re: Country and Homeland

Postby e! » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:20 pm

[quote="e!"][quote="hyperactive"][quote="e!"][quote="hyperactive"]Is acountry is very different from homeland? Is there a significant difference between loving one's homeland, and loving one's country?

Please explain how it's different or not different.[/quote]

Do your own homework Laughing[/quote]

This wasn't my home work. I was having some debate with my Sudanesse friend. Then I found how every one not lucky as Somalis where every one has same culture and ehnicity.[/quote]

LOOOOL

Not all somalis have the ethnicity

20% of the somali pop is sab---Mixed with bantu and non african somalis
5% are Bantus
0.5% is shanshi

Culture: North is a lot different...Language,clothes etc

Not to mention all those af maaay speakers Laughing[/quote]


Am from Somaliland and thats my homeland and country. Everyone in that place minus midgaans/yibirs/Hawiye refugee/issa are my people Smile

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Re: Country and Homeland

Postby Hyperactive » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:25 pm

lol that is so simplistic.

You cannot claim a country where you don't have born or don't have their nationality. I cannot claim my country is somalia which neither I nor my forefathers born. While some one who was born and his forefathers born inside boarder known as somalia.

What i'm saying is country can change but homeland never. For example, consider the formar Czechoslovakia broke into countries. what ever your country broke or boarders names you still have your homeland but isn't same as your country.

War away ti palastinanka aheyd ayada i fahmi laheyde, she is qaxoti like me. Laughing

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Re: Country and Homeland

Postby e! » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:50 pm

[quote="hyperactive"]lol that is so simplistic.

You cannot claim a country where you don't have born or don't have their nationality. I cannot claim my country is somalia which neither I nor my forefathers born. While some one who was born and his forefathers born inside boarder known as somalia.

What i'm saying is country can change but homeland never. For example, consider the formar Czechoslovakia broke into countries. what ever your country broke or boarders names you still have your homeland but isn't same as your country.

War away ti palastinanka aheyd ayada i fahmi laheyde, she is qaxoti like me. Laughing[/quote]

Everyone in my family cept me was born in Somaliland....I was born in Burco, Somalia, but now its Somaliland...U get me hyper? The Ogaden was always part of somalia, the british gave it to the ethios. So ur forefathers were born in somalia.

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Re: Country and Homeland

Postby Ina Baxar » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:58 pm

Homeland= where your people is{ in our nomadic tradition}
What am I ? I am a somali
Okay since Somalis live in Dj,Ethiopia,Kenya and used to have a country of their own , I cannot claim all of the above. So I've got to narrow it down to my tribal denomination therefore Somaliland or Waqooyi Galbeed { depending on .....}

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Re: Country and Homeland

Postby DANGIRL » Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:01 pm

[quote="e!"][quote="hyperactive"]lol that is so simplistic.

You cannot claim a country where you don't have born or don't have their nationality. I cannot claim my country is somalia which neither I nor my forefathers born. While some one who was born and his forefathers born inside boarder known as somalia.

What i'm saying is country can change but homeland never. For example, consider the formar Czechoslovakia broke into countries. what ever your country broke or boarders names you still have your homeland but isn't same as your country.

War away ti palastinanka aheyd ayada i fahmi laheyde, she is qaxoti like me. Laughing[/quote]

Everyone in my family cept me was born in Somaliland....I was born in Burco, Somalia, but now its Somaliland...U get me hyper? The Ogaden was always part of somalia, the british gave it to the ethios. So ur forefathers were born in somalia.[/quote]

There was no country called Somalia, until the British and Italian somalilands were united to form Somalia.You cant sit there and say Ogadenia was always part of Somalia.


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