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What northern darood clans was behind genocide of Issaq ?

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What northern darood clans was behind genocide of Issaq ?

Postby Manaking » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:40 pm

Officially it was Somalias President Barre who ordered and stood responsible for the genocide of the northern Issaq clans of then the united Somalia .

But excactly what clans were doing the dirty work and providing soldiers .
I have heard several versions from Hawiya soldiers or Harti darood behind it .

Was it Dhulbahante and Majerteen
Or was it Majerteen and Hawiya

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Re: What northern darood clans was behind genocide of Issaq ?

Postby gurey25 » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:44 pm

The majority of the Army in the north were hawiye and Ogadeen.

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Re: What northern darood clans was behind genocide of Issaq ?

Postby Manaking » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:46 pm

What share did Dhulbahante and Majerteen have in the genocide of Issaq

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Re: What northern darood clans was behind genocide of Issaq ?

Postby gurey25 » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:52 pm

I do not dwell on the misfortunes of the past, i suggest you not do too.

look to the future.

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Re: What northern darood clans was behind genocide of Issaq ?

Postby Somaliman% » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:54 pm

majerten and dhulbahante had no share only general morgan was mj thats it.

haawiye were the soldiers and even some isaaqs ...

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Re: What northern darood clans was behind genocide of Issaq ?

Postby Cilmiile » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:57 pm

Manaking

Ina Baxar, who i believe is Habar awal, was bragging about the genocide carried out by General Yoonis Habane of the Habar Awal agains the civilians of Mudug in 1979-81. Habane at the time was a high-ranking general in the Somali Army in the days before he defected to the SNM. He massacred tens of thousands of Majeerteens, poisoned their wells, looted their livestock, and allowed the rape of their women. And in 2007 Ina Baxar is bragging about it on Somalinet. Disgraceful.

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Re: What northern darood clans was behind genocide of Issaq ?

Postby LiQaaye_TDH » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:59 pm

There was very few Mj's mainly Dhullos and some other clans, even isaaqs.....

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Re: What northern darood clans was behind genocide of Issaq ?

Postby Manaking » Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:02 pm

okay I will let this thread go dead
but somaliman%

your post sounds like nazis who dont believe holocaust ever took place ....

However I still believe the genocide was orchestred by Darood against Issaq .
And today a new genocide is taking place against Hawiya by Darood allied with foreigners .

You can't claim this as an majerteen and Tigray thing only.
I think we have to see the whole picture here .

Not that it counts anything for Hawiya
just like they refused to respect Somaliland with their TNG goverment and Hawiya president before A/Y TFG

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Re: What northern darood clans was behind genocide of Issaq ?

Postby Manaking » Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:05 pm

Cilmiile

That is indeed disgraceful wallahi .

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Re: What northern darood clans was behind genocide of Issaq ?

Postby X.Playa » Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:27 pm

Liqaaye Tiidhi and guray81,

Speake on what you are avid on and don't make wild claims, the entire Dhafoor Qiiq were fighting in Hargaysa under Gen Morgan, all former SSDF rebels were fighting the SNM in Hargaysa under their cousin Morgan , they were supposedly to avenge what the Isaaq officers did allegedly to their kind in now Buqland.

The OLF was under Axmed Cumar Jees , after the SNM expelled all Ogaadeens from western Somalia and completly whiping them out by 1986.

No Hawiye officer of any merit led or commanded an exclusively Hawiye unit to fight Isaaq, not even in Berbera where the commander was Cabdicaziiz Bare. In fact 90% of Isaaq civilians were let go by Hawiye , while the Daarood were shooting them on the spot allied by the Oromo refugees in Hargaysa in particular.

Burco also was commanded by Xaarti officers , Cadceed and Faalso.

Both Haarti and Ogaadeen fought along tribal line defending Siad Bare out of tribal loyality while other somali soliders just fallowed orders.

So don't make this stupid claim unless you can back it up.

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Re: What northern darood clans was behind genocide of Issaq ?

Postby wadaniweyn1 » Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:34 pm

the main perputrators were dhilobadane that's yy
after iyaga iyo faqashta kale marr kanuu wasnay the arap
poet said,
Abwaankii weynaa ee Maxamed Nuur Fadal uu lahaa;
Bulbulloow Libaax iyo Dawaco boower kala roone Laughing Laughing Laughing
Haddii uu bulxamo Aarku waa bili cuslaadaaye Shocked Shocked
Waxan nahay rag lagu beegi jirey boqol ninkoodiiye Very Happy Very Happy tru dat

Abwaanku wuxu gabayga oo arartiisu aysan dhammayn ku bilaabay sidatan;

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Meeshiyo anoo qaydleh baan qaari ku ahaaye
Qalin-duurrayaashaan afxumo qaladba moodeyne
Qurux maleh nin caytamay sidii dumarka qaarkiiye Laughing Laughing Laughing
Iga qoro qasiidooyin baan kuu qaddimayaaye

Aduunyadan qaskiyo weerarkiyo qaxarka loo uumay
Ee qaboowga loo diiday ee laysku qalanaayo
Ninkii gelin qadeeyaba waqtigan qoolka gelinaaya

Waataan qabkaagii ku idhi yuu qar kaa ridine Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
Waataan qasaaraha ku idhi qoorta haw dhiganne Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Waataan xumaan kaa qabtiyo qoomihii hore'e

Waataan cajlado kuu qatimay waano qiiro ahe Surprised Surprised Surprised Surprised Surprised
Waataan hawada qaadday idhi qaaradaa mariye Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile
Qasdigaygu waa tuu ahaa nabadda qiimeeye

Naf uu qaamudkeedii galaan qabarba faallayne
Raggii qayladaadii ku kacay waakuwaa qubane Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Haddaa meydku qadawgii bixiyo qariyey dooggiiye Laughing Laughing Laughing
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Waakaa qalfookii Hayiyo, Qararro yaalyaalle Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
Imikaa dhurwaa qawdhamiyo haadku qodayaaye Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
imikaa qaxootigu Nugaal sii qulqulayaaye Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Dhallaan qayladii waxa la yidhi waa qaboonada'e
Waayahan qalaadkii dhinte iyo korisu qaadkiiye Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Wadnihii na qayraamin jirey waa qufulateene Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad

Qosolka iyo haasaawihii kuma qaxwaysaane Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool
Ma qafiiftay Uusloow adaa huriyey qiiqaase Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Ma qatallantay waatii Siyaad iilka kuu qoday'e Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Ma qunbacatay goortii warkoo qoran laguu keenay
Ma qandhootay geerida markaad gelisay qoyskiinna Laughing Laughing Laughing
Ma qayirantay maantaan tolnimo kula qalloocnayne Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Ma qiyaastay noloshaa qabteen qaalinnimadeeda Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad
Ma qiirootay waa lagu lumaa kibirka qaarkiise Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
Ma ka qooftay nimankaad lahayd qaata amarkayga Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Ma qadderisay waa mawd qarsoon qaranka reer shiikhe Laughing 4 sho
Qusurkaba adaan gaadhin iyo badaha qooqaaya
Qaxarka iyo kibirkii miyaa kaa qadhqadhinaaya

Qalalaasaahaagina miyaad qaadi kari weydey Surprised Surprised Surprised Surprised Surprised Surprised
Jeerooy Qunbuladuu dhacaan laysma qaaddimine
Qira gaabnidee sowdigii col u qalqaalaayey Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad

Qudh la gooyo iyo dhaawac iyo maal la kala qaado
Qardoofadu rag waw soo taxnayd taniyo Qaabiile
Qammuunyada ilkaha iyo dibnuhu waa qashiinnimo'e

Nin xumaan qoday caadki tahay qoomamiyo ciile Laughing Laughing Laughing
Qabtii Samatar galay waadigaa qoobka soo dhigaye
Haddaad gacan-Libaax qaad is tidhi quusashaa xigiye Very Happy Very Happy 4 real

Ninkii Qaanso iyo leeb filanayoow qabarki weynaaye
Sunta qaraxday ciiddiina waa qori madoobaade Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
Waxba yay is qoosaalintii ila qadhaadhaanne Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Haddaa nabaddi aad quudhsateen qiimo leedahaaye Laughing Laughing Laughing
Qaraabiyo abtiga waa kolkaa qiran ogeydeene Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
Maxaan kula qabtaa waatanoo qulubtay Uusloowe Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


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Re: What northern darood clans was behind genocide of Issaq ?

Postby Warsame101 » Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:40 pm

Manaking, offically it was the vice-president Maxamed Cali Samatar who ordered the attack and he admitted that on bbc interview saying that he had to use brute force to destroy the coward SNM movement once and for all. Maxamed Siyaad Barre (RH) couldn't do much as he was still experiencing the effects of the car accident in '86 and only had to dedicate a hour at most to minor duties and public appearances.

The Times (issue 1986) writes:

"The most likely replacement is the Vice-President, Lieutenant-General Mohamed Ali Samatar, who assumed power when General Siad Barre was injured in the crash. He is not of the same clan as the President."

And guess what, Maxamed Cali Samatar is Madhibaan not Daarood.

Lastly, if you call what happend in the north "genocide", then you should equally call the crimes of the SNM genocide too since they also targetted thousands of non-Isaaq civilians.


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