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Hugo C Chokes 'Em Off

Postby michael_ital » Tue May 01, 2007 9:50 pm

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May 01, 2007 08:11 PM
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CARACAS – President Hugo Chavez's government took over Venezuela's last privately run oil fields today, intensifying a power struggle with international companies over the world's largest known single petroleum deposit.

Newly bought Russian-made fighter jets streaked through the sky as Chavez shouted "Down with the U.S. empire!" to thousands of red-clad oil workers, calling the state takeover a historic victory for Venezuela after years of U.S.-backed corporate exploitation.

"The nationalization of Venezuela's oil is now for real," said Chavez, who declared that for Venezuela to be a socialist state it must have control over its natural resources.

Chavez accused foreign oil companies of bad drilling practices due to their hunger for quick profits, and said Venezuela could sue them for causing lasting damage to oil fields.

Oil Minister Rafael Ramirez declared that the fields had reverted to state control just after midnight. State television showed cheering workers in hard hats raising the flags of Venezuela and the national oil company over a refinery and four drilling fields in the Orinoco River basin.

While the state takeover had been planned for some time, BP PLC (TSX: BP.U), ConocoPhillips, Exxon Mobil Corp., Chevron Corp., France's Total SA and Norway's Statoil ASA remain locked in a struggle with the Chavez government over the terms and conditions under which they will be allowed to stay on as minority partners.

All but ConocoPhillips signed agreements last week agreeing in principle to state control and ConocoPhillips said today that it too was co-operating.

Analysts say the companies have leverage because Venezuela's state oil company, Petroleos de Venezuela SA, cannot transform the Orinoco's tar-like crude into marketable oil without their investment and experience.

"They're hoping ... that as time passes Chavez will realize he needs them more than they need him," said Michael Lynch, an analyst at Winchester, Mass.-based Strategic Energy and Economic Research. He predicted most oil companies – with the possible exception of Exxon Mobil – would stay.

Multinationals pumping oil elsewhere in Venezuela, one of the leading suppliers of oil to the United States, submitted to state-controlled joint ventures last year because they were reluctant to abandon the profitable operations.

Chavez says the state is taking a minimum 60 per cent stake in the Orinoco operations, but he is urging foreign companies to stay and help develop the fields. They have until June 26 to negotiate the terms.

The stakes are high for both sides. The Orinoco River basin, though not yet fully explored, is recognized as the world's single largest known oil deposit, potentially holding 1.2 trillion barrels of extra-heavy crude.

If Venezuela is able to recover much of that, it would surpass Saudi Arabia as the country with the most reserves. If the big oil companies were to leave, Chavez says state firms from China, India and elsewhere can step in, but industry experts doubt they are qualified.

Chavez "is going to discover that nationalism is one thing, but money talks," Lynch said. "And I don't think he's going to be able to get more money out of the Orinoco or the foreign oil companies without being a lot nicer to them."

Pulling out would be damaging for the companies. They have invested more than US$17 billion in the projects, now estimated to be worth $30 billion. Venezuela has indicated it is inclined to pay the lesser amount for taking over control, with partial payment in oil and, some experts suspect, tax forgiveness.

"The president has ordered us to assume full control of our oil sovereignty, and we are doing it," Ramirez said at the Jose heavy crude refinery near the eastern city of Barcelona.

An enormous Venezuelan flag was hung between two cranes at the refinery, and smaller flags flew from lamp posts. Red balloons were attached to power lines.

The oil companies, meanwhile, still needed convincing that Venezuela will be a good place to do business.

Chevron's future in Venezuela "will very much be dependent on how we're treated in the current negotiation," said David O'Reilly, chief executive of the San Ramon, California-based company. "That process is going to have a direct impact on our appetite going forward."

Venezuela may still prove enticing because three-quarters of the world's proven reserves are already controlled by state monopolies.

Nationalization of the oil industry has been tried in Venezuela before, though with a different tack. Venezuela shut companies out of the oil sector completely between 1976 and 1992 before beginning a series of partial privatizations, which Chavez is now rolling back.

Chavez is also nationalizing electricity companies and the country's biggest telecommunications company, and has threatened to take over private hospitals if they continue raising prices for care.

He says radical changes are needed to help the poor benefit more from the country's oil wealth.

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Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Wed May 02, 2007 9:03 am

Eventually he is going to get killed. You can't keep focking with really wealthy people without some sort of backlash. It's just a matter of time for him. Some rich SOB is going to fork over the kind of money it would take to make Chavez go away.

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Postby gurey25 » Wed May 02, 2007 9:09 am

You wish...

Chavez has support from the majority of venezualans,
the rich minority has been lording it over everyone since the begening, its time for them to
behave themselves and learn to obey the law.

Laughing

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Re: Hugo C Chokes 'Em Off

Postby michael_ital » Wed May 02, 2007 3:45 pm

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Not as long as the gittin' is good for the oil companies.

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Re: Hugo C Chokes 'Em Off

Postby Steeler [Crawler2] » Wed May 02, 2007 4:09 pm

Gurey
You know as well as I, if you have enough money, you can buy whatever you want. Chavez is runnning roughshod over a lot of people right now. Whether you sympathize with him or not is irrelevent. He is clearly at risk, making so many enemies.

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Re: Hugo C Chokes 'Em Off

Postby gurey25 » Wed May 02, 2007 6:29 pm

I support everyone that defends thier countries independence and freedom against outside control.
wether that control is with foriegn boots on the ground or capital.

I am deeply disappointed with chavez however, the power has corrupted him,
the first thing he should have done is to create a party and ideology an institution that will survive him, and continue his policies if he goes down.

when you create power structures that will implement your ideas after you are gone, and continue with or without you,
you free yourself to be more agressive in the pursuit of your objective.


right now , yes you are right he is vulnerable,
one assasination and his supporters will be divided and conquered,

democracy the will of the people doesnt count in the end.
it depends on who is morer ruthless in his methods and objectives..



i believe Chavez has already lost.

sad....

Bolivarism was such a catchy thing, and i enjoy seeing the imperialists squirms in thier seats.


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