A Question To abgaals!

[Shirib]

if abgaal is the majority in xamar or most xafaado - how come it doesnt even look like they have much control over the city? and when did habar gedir emigrate to xamar ?

Abgaal are incompetent, and Habar Gedir had most of USC on their side when they took control of Xamar. Still Abgaal had most of northern Muqdisho while HG had southern

[MrPrestige]

Ducaysane209, yes I know I have family from all qabils. Some still live there, especially the females, like my dads Issaq wife and my Darood sister in law. etc Some have left the city due to instability.

Dir, Darood, Rahanweyen, Hawiye, you name it, we checked it.

Abakar, what is wrong with you? He never said they were the majority, but they had a sizeable community there. We should all respect each other.

*Guys, if you see others behaving badly and dissing your qabils, there is no need to copy them, be set a good example not a pattern.*

warsanstartMuslima its all about money really my reer abtis owned a lot back in the day in xamar even my awoowe from motherside was a general a well respected 1 - i would like to come back to xamar 1 day and claim back all my most family land

[MrPrestige]

Shirib does Geledi have any degaans or xafaado in xamar?

[Demure]

Hello,i will be the last to answer this Question.
Do you consider your self hawiye? if yes,do you think this hawiye thing has done more harm than good? this thread is for abgaals or mudulood,others can sit back for a while.

Addoow,

Ofcourse Abgaal is Hawiye, what kind of question is that? Also it's not just a Hawiye thing but the whole clan system across the board has been used to cause more harm than good.

Obviously, you are having a low moment but these questions are not the way to console yourself . Instead you should ask yourself two things;

- Where exactly did Hawiye go wrong? you need to investigate the core elements that make Hawiye what they are today.
- How can we systematically correct these issues?

Remeber as Abakar said Hawiye solidarity is the way to go

[Shirib]

Shirib does Geledi have any degaans or xafaado in xamar?

A long time ago we did in places like Waabari, Arbaca Rukun but I don't think we are a majority in any xaafads anymore

[MrPrestige]

Shirib does Geledi have any degaans or xafaado in xamar?

A long time ago we did in places like Waabari, Arbaca Rukun but I don't think we are a majority in any xaafads anymore

there must be something happened - a ethnic cleansing somaha?

[MrPrestige]

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[CUSHITE KINGDOM]

all i can say is
give the leadership to either Murusade or Hawadle

[Ayub21]

Hello,i will be the last to answer this Question.
Do you consider your self hawiye? if yes,do you think this hawiye thing has done more harm than good? this thread is for abgaals or mudulood,others can sit back for a while.

I never recall saying am hawiye in my life?wallahi i dont even remember ones saying am hawiye.

yes i know am hawiye and am proud to be one. but i feel i don't need to claim hawiye as Mudulood i have alone long history in somalia and all somalia companied cant come close to the leaders we have produced.like the first somalia president, the first generel, first,koocdoon, and so on. second as mudulood i feel like am laan dheer and my people live from xareerdheere to baraave. i have clean record as being neighbour. and a good somalia leader.

so the Q is what did hawiye did for me? i meet them hawiye 1991 and they come not alone but they take ogadeen,jareer,rahanweyn and qashan oo dhan to figth me.

hawiye have always taken from me? claiming whit me the leader i produced. . the land i freed from Kingdoms alone where was hawiye when i was fighting alone the kingsoms of the Arab and ajuuraan. again when i help them to free themself "Baraxleey" ring a bill?'


i feel like i have better history then hewiye and all somali companied.

just look at shiekh Ali cusmaan married a real ajuuraan princess.

[Somaliman50]

Hello,i will be the last to answer this Question.
Do you consider your self hawiye? if yes,do you think this hawiye thing has done more harm than good? this thread is for abgaals or mudulood,others can sit back for a while.

I never recall saying am hawiye in my life?wallahi i dont even remember ones saying am hawiye.

yes i know am hawiye and am proud to be one. but i feel i don't need to claim hawiye as Mudulood i have alone long history in somalia and all somalia companied cant come close to the leaders we have produced.like the first somalia president, the first generel, first,koocdoon, and so on. second as mudulood i feel like am laan dheer and my people live from xareerdheere to baraave. i have clean record as being neighbour. and a good somalia leader.

so the Q is what did hawiye did for me? i meet them hawiye 1991 and they come not alone but they take ogadeen,jareer,rahanweyn and qashan oo dhan to figth me.

hawiye have always taken from me? claiming whit me the leader i produced. . the land i freed from Kingdoms alone where was hawiye when i was fighting alone the kingsoms of the Arab and ajuuraan. again when i help them to free themself "Baraxleey" ring a bill?'


i feel like i have better history then hewiye and all somali companied.

just look at shiekh Ali cusmaan married a real ajuuraan princess.

ayub, marki tariikh ahaan laga hadlo, hawiyaha waxaa ugu tarikh weyn ujuran, hiraab, karanle iyo silcis. ujuran waxay lahayen boqortooyo ka bilaabo baardheere ila qalaafo ila hobyo oo sadex qarni ayey halkaas xukumayen. hiraab ayaa ku xigey oo dhulkaas badanka heysteen waxaana la oran jirey hirab imamate oo khasatan darandoolaha ayaa muqdisho joogeen. silcis gorgarte na waxay xukumayen afgooye iyo marka, barawe iyo guud ahaan shabelada hoose mudo boqol sano. iyo walalahooda wadalan iyo xawadle shabeelaha iyo gobolka mareeg bey ka talinayeen. karanlaha na waa dadka somalida ugu horeeyey ee oromada soo islamiyey, wana dadka ugu horeyey ee bantuga gumaadey. karanlaha iyo xaskul hawiye waa kuwi axmad gurey la wadaagey dagalki futux al xabashi asigoo karanle ahaa laftarkiisu (axmad gurey). marka adiga walaalahadu ha u caroonin waa dadka kula dhashay inshalaha na ilahay ayaa xaal keeni doono,.

[Shirib]

Shirib does Geledi have any degaans or xafaado in xamar?

A long time ago we did in places like Waabari, Arbaca Rukun but I don't think we are a majority in any xaafads anymore

there must be something happened - a ethnic cleansing somaha?

No ethnic cleansing just xaafads got bigger and more people poored in

[Demure]

Hello,i will be the last to answer this Question.
Do you consider your self hawiye? if yes,do you think this hawiye thing has done more harm than good? this thread is for abgaals or mudulood,others can sit back for a while.

I never recall saying am hawiye in my life?wallahi i dont even remember ones saying am hawiye.

yes i know am hawiye and am proud to be one. but i feel i don't need to claim hawiye as Mudulood i have alone long history in somalia and all somalia companied cant come close to the leaders we have produced.like the first somalia president, the first generel, first,koocdoon, and so on. second as mudulood i feel like am laan dheer and my people live from xareerdheere to baraave. i have clean record as being neighbour. and a good somalia leader.

so the Q is what did hawiye did for me? i meet them hawiye 1991 and they come not alone but they take ogadeen,jareer,rahanweyn and qashan oo dhan to figth me.

hawiye have always taken from me? claiming whit me the leader i produced. . the land i freed from Kingdoms alone where was hawiye when i was fighting alone the kingsoms of the Arab and ajuuraan. again when i help them to free themself "Baraxleey" ring a bill?'


i feel like i have better history then hewiye and all somali companied.

just look at shiekh Ali cusmaan married a real ajuuraan princess.

Oh no not you too!! aree naga dhaafa nooh this i'm feeling sorry for myself theme today...true Hawiye today has many problems and disconnections but that shouldn't lead to further fragmentation among the uncoming generations...on the contrary.

Ask not what Hawiye has done for you - but what you can do for Hawiye

[Addoow]

IF this f-king craziness goes and Goes,Hawiye will be a thing of the past!.
in fact hawiye today is a political tool used to dominate others which is unacceptable.!
anything used as a political tool will become dirty even religion.

[Twisted_Logic]

Abgaal Cismaan is Mudulood is Hawiye. To me Hawiye interest comes first and foremost before anything else. Strength lies in unity. We can argue till kingdom come about the bad decisions Hawiye "leaders" made in the past, but in the end it is futile. We should be looking towards the future and trying to correct the mistakes of the past. Any-one, who thinks otherwise, is a political novice and or sheegato.

btw,

We should be careful about the numerous sheegatos lurking around, claiming to be speaking for the besha Mudulood

[Shirib]

Abgaal Cismaan is Mudulood is Hawiye. To me Hawiye interest comes first and foremost before anything else. Strength lies in unity. We can argue till kingdom come about the bad decisions Hawiye "leaders" made in the past, but in the end it is futile. We should be looking towards the future and trying to correct the mistakes of the past. Any-one, who thinks otherwise, is a political novice and or sheegato.

btw,

We should be careful about the numerous sheegatos lurking around, claiming to be speaking for the besha Mudulood

lackey