abakar20 wrote:Ayub21 wrote:Addoow wrote:Hello,i will be the last to answer this Question.
Do you consider your self hawiye? if yes,do you think this hawiye thing has done more harm than good? this thread is for abgaals or mudulood,others can sit back for a while.
I never recall saying am hawiye in my life?wallahi i dont even remember ones saying am hawiye.
yes i know am hawiye and am proud to be one. but i feel i don't need to claim hawiye as Mudulood i have alone long history in somalia and all somalia companied cant come close to the leaders we have produced.like the first somalia president, the first generel, first,koocdoon, and so on. second as mudulood i feel like am laan dheer and my people live from xareerdheere to baraave. i have clean record as being neighbour. and a good somalia leader.
so the Q is what did hawiye did for me? i meet them hawiye 1991 and they come not alone but they take ogadeen,jareer,rahanweyn and qashan oo dhan to figth me.
hawiye have always taken from me? claiming whit me the leader i produced. . the land i freed from Kingdoms alone where was hawiye when i was fighting alone the kingsoms of the Arab and ajuuraan. again when i help them to free themself "Baraxleey" ring a bill?'
i feel like i have better history then hewiye and all somali companied.
just look at shiekh Ali cusmaan married a real ajuuraan princess.
ayub, marki tariikh ahaan laga hadlo, hawiyaha waxaa ugu tarikh weyn ujuran, hiraab, karanle iyo silcis. ujuran waxay lahayen boqortooyo ka bilaabo baardheere ila qalaafo ila hobyo oo sadex qarni ayey halkaas xukumayen. hiraab ayaa ku xigey oo dhulkaas badanka heysteen waxaana la oran jirey hirab imamate oo khasatan darandoolaha ayaa muqdisho joogeen. silcis gorgarte na waxay xukumayen afgooye iyo marka, barawe iyo guud ahaan shabelada hoose mudo boqol sano. iyo walalahooda wadalan iyo xawadle shabeelaha iyo gobolka mareeg bey ka talinayeen. karanlaha na waa dadka somalida ugu horeeyey ee oromada soo islamiyey, wana dadka ugu horeyey ee bantuga gumaadey. karanlaha iyo xaskul hawiye waa kuwi axmad gurey la wadaagey dagalki futux al xabashi asigoo karanle ahaa laftarkiisu (axmad gurey). marka adiga walaalahadu ha u caroonin waa dadka kula dhashay inshalaha na ilahay ayaa xaal keeni doono,.
^^^this is what i hate about about hawiye try to steal my tariikh or cliam whit my the tariikh i have made my self.look at him he mentioned Hiriib Imaaned but not the state of Yaquub??the hiriib imaan was not that imported which was more imported was. state yaquub . where mudulood fight alone the arab(yemani) and ajuuraan.
and he did not mention that he said hiriib Imaned. see hawiye always takes from me
abaker, "somalia waxaa ugu tariikh dheer ujaaraan" yes i agree.Respect the mudulood who first destroy them in one week.
Yaquub SultanateThe emergence of the Imamate of Yaaquub in Mogadishu is related to the tyrannical rule of the Ajuran in the interior, and the attraction of the growing Mogadishu wealth as a consequence of its thriving trade controlled by the Muzzaffar dynasty which was allied to the Ajuran in the interior.
The Yaaquub is a lineage of the Abgal clan who itself is part of the wider Darandoole Mudulood group. The Darandoole Mudulood is a pastoral group that lived in Central Somalia, and throughout the centuries migrated Southwards. As a consequence of this southwards migration, the Darandoole Mudulood encroached slowly but steadily on Mogadishu city and came in conflict with the Muzzaffar dynasty. This dynasty in Mogadishu was itself incapable to withstand this migration and encroachment and opted for negotiation with the Imam of the Darandole.
Cerulli has recorded traditional narrative of how the Darandole conquered Mogadishu against the Muzaffar dynasty:
“In ancient times the Sirasi lived in Mogadiscio. The people called Halawani succeeded the Sirasi. The Mudaffar succeeded the Halawani. The Mudaffar came from the country of Yemen in Arabia. He had guns. He built the palace that is found under the Governor’s house. He was a friend of the Aguran. At that time the Mudaffar governed the coast; and the Aguran ruled in the woodland.
“Later the Mudaffar had an interpreter who was called ‘Ismankäy Haggi ‘Ali. This ‘Ismankäy had the idea of letting the Darandollä enter the city. A message was sent to the imam Mahmud ‘Umar, who lived at Golol. The imam, guiding his warriors, came south and approached Mogadiscio. Then what did ‘Ismankäy do? He spoke with the Mudaffar: ‘By now the Darandollä are near Mogadiscio, let me be accompanied by some soldiers, and I shall go to them.’ ‘How do you want to do it?’ ‘I shall do it this way. I shall come to an agreement with the leaders and make them return to the places in the north.’ ‘So be it!’ said the Mudaffar. Then ‘Ismänkäy took some soldiers with him, but without weapons: ‘Leave your weapons! We go out to conclude an agreement, not really for war.’ They put down the weaons. They went into the woodland. When they had gone into the woodland, the Darandollä came out and took all the soldiers prisoner. Then they continued the raid and entered Mogadiscio. The Mudaffar was caputred and they wanted to kill him. But he, looking at the people who had come close to him, saw among them ‘Ismankäy Haggi Ali. ‘Stop!’ he said then. ‘Before you kill me, I want to speak. O ‘Ismankäy, you are good for nothing, you are capable of nothing, you will not pass seven!’ he said. Thus was 248 ‘Ismankäy cursed. When the Mudaffar was killed, when seven days passed after his death, ‘Ismankäy died too. It happened exactly as he had been cursed."
The Darandoolle have conquered Mogadishu city and killed the Muzzaffar governor sometime between 1590 and 1625. The approximate dates appear to be corroborated by a Portuguese document dated 1624 .
After the Darandoolle Mudulood took control of the Mogadishu city in 1624, they quarrelled with the Ajuraan on the interior.
‘After entering Muqdisho, the Darandoolle quarrelled with the Ajuraan. They quarrelled over watering rights. The Ajuraan had decreed: ‘At the wells in our territory, the people known as Darandoolle and the other Hiraab cannot water their herds by day, but only at night’’…Then all the Darandoolle gathered in one place. The leaders decided to make war on the Ajuraan. They found the imam of the Ajuraan seated on a rock near a well called Ceel Cawl. They killed him with a sword. As they struck him with the sword, they split his body together with the rock on which he was seated. He died immediately and the Ajuraan migrated out of the country.’
The Darandoolle became as such the first group to rebel against the tyranny of Ajuraan in the interior, and ever since this Ajuraan defeat other groups would follow in the rebellion which would eventually bring down Ajuraan rule of the inter-riverine region.
After the defeat of the Ajuraan in the interior the Darandoolle Mudulood established themselves around Mogadishu and Shabelle river valley, in which Wacdaan inhabited the environs of Afgoye and Mogadishu, Hiilebi in Lower Shabelle, Moobleen went to the region now known as Middle Shabelle, while the Abgaal established themselves in and around Mogadishu city.
By about 1700 the entire political structure of Mogadishu city was altered with the ascendancy of a new line of Abgaal Yaaquub imams who established themselves in Shangaani quarter (the northern moiety of Mogadishu city). The Yaaquub imam’s powerbase remained among the people of the interior, while members of the Imam’s Yaaquub lineage intermarried with the BaFadel and Abdi Semen, two famed merchants families of Yemeni origins.
The Yaaquub Imam collected the port tariffs of the city, and emerged as the authority of Mogadishu city, despite its division into two moieties. The Yaaquub imamate would survive until the closing of the 19th century and was a force to reckon with when Zanzibari influence slowly expanded throughout the Banadir region. [3] [4] [5]
