2012 Mudulood Political Strategy

[Voltage]

But they need another gobol, so they will likely join with the middle shabeele and banadir inshallah

Ok in that case definitely makes sense but I think AbgaalKing's very extreme stance about land claim might lead Lower Shabbelle to look towards Bay and Bakool.

AbgaalKing, waa yahay sxb.

[greenday]

Lol,It is funny when a boy from caabudwaaq wanna talk about lower shabelle.Our claim to lower shabelle is both historic and also population wise.and i did acknowlege the galadi historic presence.we can always find a solution for it.as for middle jubba,dee it is also rahanweyn majority and i have more rights to it then some guy from dhabad.(some girl will hate this).What i find interesting is the trying to quote warsme work as reference.the reality on the ground is different.

Nagaa, no need for murun man

[UlteriorMotive]

Happy Desp.,

How can a place be landlocked when it's part of a country. That means 20 states in the US = ''landlocked''.

Having a port is nice...but why is it a big deal if Hiiraan doesn't have access to the sea?

[Voltage]

Btw I didnt catch it Green, but Banadir is federal territory. Everyone in Somalia knew and Sheikh Sharif just signed on it. It will not be run by anyone but the federal government, I mean it has nothing to do with Abgaal being the most dominant clan but it being the capital.

[TheblueNwhite]

Greenday please address the outsiders in a different thread, this is a Mudulood thread, lets respect that habaryar.

[Voltage]

I am not an outsider to anywhere. Mogadishu is my capital city and Lower Shabelle, Balcad, Cadale, and Warsheikh are as well towns I have a right to claim and talk about as a Somali citizen.

[Happy Desperado]

I don't know man, just can't wait to see the end product. Either way Mudulood lands are set, they have ports and fertile lands and I remember hearing about mineable resources so in the economic sense it's set to go. Like I said, exciting times.

[Happy Desperado]

Happy Desp.,

How can a place be landlocked when it's part of a country. That means 20 states in the US = ''landlocked''.

Having a port is nice...but why is it a big deal if Hiiraan doesn't have access to the sea?

I'm speaking from an economic stand point. Say Bay, Bakool and Hiraan formed a state, I think they would definitely be disadvantaged by being the only state with no port and no access to the sea.

[greenday]

Blue, he is taking part of the topic and his views should be respected

Voltage, if they do that its fine am sure the whole of the gobol wont go, wala kala qeybsanaa


I read it says muqdisho status will be decided by the parliment anyway would you have a problem with it if it became part of the new mamuul?

[greenday]

Happy Desp.,

How can a place be landlocked when it's part of a country. That means 20 states in the US = ''landlocked''.

Having a port is nice...but why is it a big deal if Hiiraan doesn't have access to the sea?

I'm speaking from an economic stand point. Say Bay, Bakool and Hiraan formed a state, I think they would definitely be disadvantaged by being the only state with no port and no access to the sea.

This will not be a problem runti, they will have other stuff

[abgaalKING]

I don't know man, just can't wait to see the end product. Either way Mudulood lands are set, they have ports and fertile lands and I remember hearing about mineable resources so in the economic sense it's set to go. Like I said, exciting times.

We will not be selfish but come to the rescue of our cousins when they face problems as long as we agree politically and make a deal based on mutual peaceful co-existance.You can always count on banadir state to render any prime minister toothless.

[Voltage]

Greenday wallahi in hindsight I distrust the whole federal states thing. I think it is positive in that it forces local authorities to be responsible for the well being of their regions but then I don't think Somalis are political mature for federal states. A federal state is like me leaving Gedo and going to Middle Shabelle, and my "state" is my new residency not my tribal residency. When I go into politics run for mayor in Jowhar without any other sort of hurdle except that I am a legal resident loyal to the state in which I live and vice versa.

Somalida are not bisayl enough political for federal states, I think it is a headache waiting to be unleashed to be honest.

[TheblueNwhite]

Green, no we are not. Our affairs are ours alone and no one else, keep that in mind.

Don't encourage trolls.

[UlteriorMotive]

Happy Desp.,

How can a place be landlocked when it's part of a country. That means 20 states in the US = ''landlocked''.

Having a port is nice...but why is it a big deal if Hiiraan doesn't have access to the sea?

I'm speaking from an economic stand point. Say Bay, Bakool and Hiraan formed a state, I think they would definitely be disadvantaged by being the only state with no port and no access to the sea.

Not really. They can specialise in other things. If I recall correctly, Somalia has the longest coastline in Africa...how many ports do we have? How many do we need?

Between those three states...they can feed the rest of the country. Hiiraan + Bay + Bakool is a dream team in agriculture. They can be rich without having to rely on port duties.

Hiiraan is also strategically placed to benefit from the north/south trade. Ports are nice don't get me wrong...but they are overrated by Somalis.

[greenday]

Greenday wallahi in hindsight I distrust the whole federal states thing. I think it is positive in that it forces local authorities to be responsible for the well being of their regions but then I don't think Somalis are political mature for federal states. A federal state is like me leaving Gedo and going to Middle Shabelle, and my "state" is my new residency not my tribal residency. When I go into politics run for mayor in Jowhar without any other sort of hurdle except that I am a legal resident loyal to the state in which I live and vice versa.

Somalida are not bisayl enough political for federal states, I think it is a headache waiting to be unleashed to be honest.

With a strong central goverment and set rules that put the country first, which cant be changed by any state are needed ans all will be good So you dont mind which state muqdisho joins then?