39 Member Parliaments Endorse Banadir State

[FarhanYare]

Lol @ this. Dude I left Somalia at the beginning and lived in the US comfortably for 20 years. You had to flee on a boat from the same heroes of yours and were brought by the Red Cross to cold snow of Minnesota couple years ago. I'm not going to rehash the old inifinity debated discussions about civil war and stolen properties, because it would be redundant. More than that though because time and law is on my side. My uncle went to Mogadishu coming back sametime you did. My brother was there during that time. I know the reality. Clan is not anything in Mogadishu, it's your status and capital. That's how Somalia's capital should be. I am simply telling you Mogadishu and accountability will be the single most defining issue of the civil war and the fact that the status of Mog and not any other city was left to Somalia's parliament should show you the reality. There is no way in hell it will be part of a a regional or federal state, tribal or otherwise. Mog is the federal district and will stay as such. As for the different options, it doesn't matter as I have heard it is just a way to say "all" options have been looked at.

How can you think like you do when you know no way in hell in legitimate mainstream discussion a Hawiye can even engage in a discussion about stolen Mogadishu properties when the other side carries all the moral weight? Waa yaab wallahi

You need to realize the fact that you are insignificant factor in determining the destiny of Mogadishu. You carry no weight at all. You know very well that when your brother or uncle or aunt or the people you are claiming to have gone back to Mogadishu go back, they are under the protection and mercy of the people of Mogadishu. I have been in Mogadishu long enough to know the status of your clansmen as protected endangered species who have to lower their gaze and hide their clan. So, quit these none sense tales of clan not mattering in Mogadishu because I will gladly remind you about your pathetic position anytime you grow the balls to make a touch down.

About the none sense invented biography of me you have listed, while we all know desperation brings all sorts of emotions out of you. I am have led a very privileged and fortunate life, alhamdulilah. My people didn't had to flee on boats in Kismayo sprinting to Kakuma like your clansmen. I left Mogadishu at a time of my choosing and went back at a time of my own choosing. So don't equate yourself to me or leaving Mogadishu "at the beginning of the civil war" because unless your family was one of the Marehan groups that deserted the old dictator in Villa Somalia, you would know quite well that the liberation of Mogadishu was swift and decisive and reached its logical end with the depression-induced death of Siyad Barre in some abandoned Nigerian Toilet.

Get the fuck outta here with your inflated ego and pride. You don't possess the power you claim

u forgot utanga camp too

[FarhanYare]

we dont share anything,we are hawiye and you are daarood.nothing else for your ilk.

indeed

[FarhanYare]

Now everyone knows why I was always a ardent supporter of the Capitol being moved.

where should you suggest the capital moved to ghetto?? not gonna happen my freind keep dreaming

[FarhanYare]

Personally I'm very happy to endorse the 'unukah leh' mentality for Xamar, it just means less people will be willing to move there, especially educated or wealthy people. And I'd be more than happy to direct those wealthy and educated people to Bosaso or some other decent city where 'unukah leh' bullshit is left at the door.

Nothing makes me happier than seeing prominent Banaadir figures openly claiming the city as a clan town and making threats towards people looking to settle in the city. Every retard who opens his mouth in Xamar (and there's no shortage of them) creates a new customer for Bosaso.

God bless reer unukah leh, making Xamar unlivable since 1991.

basaso kulaha population is what 3000 max ,what does a rural small town has to offer to the wealthy and educated somalis that you are targetting nacas reflect back on what you wrote coz that shyt didn't make sense

[SultanOrder]

Faraxoos, talking about qaxootis, smh it's like the kettle calling the tea pot black, what a retarded insult to say you guys lived in refugees, when right after the daroods, hawiye came running to the same camps

[abdisamad3]

You know what, you repeated "military and political" power and stuff a lot with respect to your ability to achieve "Banadir State". Why wasn't this feasible in 1991? Why were you second class in large parts of the Mogadishu where you are claiming to represent as a state? Why was Villa Somalia, Bakara Market, dekedda Muqdisho, Radio Mogadishu, etc etc etc all in the hands of HG and you were cardoned off with to being a looma ooyaan if you passed a green line in the very city you say you represent as a clan?

I really don't get it. I don't even like rehashing this argument but your bravado has never match your reality.

Mogadishu will never part of a federal tribal state of yours. Your selected highest Mudulood officials will not allow it knowing the capital has to be a place where everyone has equal accessibility. The world will not allow and especially the overwhelming majority of Somalis, of whatever clan, will not allow this country coming out of civil war to have the very venue of its political representation be unilaterally assumed responsibility for by a tribal oriented federal government.

It will never happen.

if I was looma oyaan, trust I would be escaping on hand-made boats and seeking refugee. Today I control Villa Somalia, Mogadishu Port, Adan Cade Airport, the governorship and every important position in Mogadishu. That's what matters at the end of the day!
About the role of Mogadishu under federalism, trust me you are hallucinating if you think you and I will have equal claim to Mogadishu. We never did and never will we.

I didn't know you was an Ugandan..well well everyday you learn something new.

[Eaglehawk]

Muqdisho (RBC) Gudoomiyaha gobolka Banaadir Maxamuud Axmed Nuur Tarsan ayaa maanta sheegay in maamulkiisa uusan aqbali doonin in magaalada Muqdisho ay hoostagto maamul goboleed gaar ah ayna ka hor imaaneyso sharafta caasimada.
Gudoomiyaha oo maanta khudbad ka jeediyey munaasabad dadweyne badan ka soo qeybgaleen oo ka dhacday degmada Cabdicasiis ee magaalada Muqdisho ayaa sheegay in uu ka dalbaday guddiga dastuurka iyo baarlamaanka KMG ah inay soo qeexaan xeerka caasimada Soomaaliya.
“Ma dhacayso in Muqdisho ay hoostagto maamul goboleed gaar ah, caasimada Soomaaliya waxay leedahay mudnaan gaar ah waanan meel dadkoo dhan u siman yihiin, ninkii yiraahda maamul goboleed ayaan ka dhigayaa waa wax aan dhacayn.” ayuu yiri gudoomiyaha gobolka Banaadir oo si gaar ah u weeraray maamulka cusub ee dhowaan looga dhawaaqay magaalada Muqdisho kaasoo loo bixiyey Banaadir State.
Gudoomiyaha gobolka Banaadir ahna duqa magaalada Muqdisho ayaa digniin u diray maleeshiyada hubeysan ee amaandarida ku haya dadweynaha Muqdisho.
Abaalmarin la ballanqaaday
Tarsan wuxuu dhanka kale abaalmarin xoog leh u ballanqaaday cidii soo sheegta saraakiil ka tirsan Al-Shabaab ama meelaha ay hubka ku keydsadaan kooxaha Al-Shabaab iyo kuwa amaandarida ka wada caasimada.
Gudoomiyaha ayaa sheegay in abaalmarinta ay noqon doonto kala bar hubka ama qiimaha qalabka la helo haddii la soo sheego.

I find it funny how a people that didn`t control xamar 1 day since the coming of the Italians, claim it’s their city.
When did abgaal ever control xamar as a clan, during the civil war it was habar gedir that controlled majority of the city plus the critical economic zones
Now people think amisom will miraculously hand xamar over on a silver plate to abgaalistan.
The difference between abgaal claim over xamar and other people claim over other cities. Is other people actually are planning to control the city militarily making their claim reality.

When abgaal control xamar by themselves then their claim has basis, but don`t come here claiming stuff that is provided by the TFG an entity which is culmination of Somali effort.

Did they really think the habar gedir commanders in xamar are working day in day out to make xamar abgaal city
Hargeisa, bossosa and garowe have 1 clan that control it militarily hence their legitimacy to govern it is derived from that.
I have never taken abgaal chest beating seriously, we been hearing unuka leh xamar for ages yet we have not seen a single day that they control xamar, forget controlling merka

Tarzan is realist thinker

[FarhanYare]

Faraxoos, talking about qaxootis, smh it's like the kettle calling the tea pot black, what a retarded insult to say you guys lived in refugees, when right after the daroods, hawiye came running to the same camps

yaan lagugu qosliin dont come with the fantasies you've been told here, everyone knows that darood were the first to end up in the qaxooti camps you name it from kakuma to utango and stastically they outnumbered in other somali clans... just accept it darood waa qaxooti

[SultanOrder]

Faraxoos, talking about qaxootis, smh it's like the kettle calling the tea pot black, what a retarded insult to say you guys lived in refugees, when right after the daroods, hawiye came running to the same camps

yaan lagugu qosliin dont come with the fantasies you've been told here, everyone knows that darood were the first to end up in the qaxooti camps you name it from kakuma to utango and stastically they outnumbered in other somali clans... just accept it darood waa qaxooti

So Darood is the majority in the West? or, Hawiye and other qabils were professionals that came to those countries because there was a need. I don't care if Darood is qaxooti, they are going back to Somalia with money and education, maxaa ka fican?

[abdisamad3]

faraaxoos1: adbo qaxooti lee nalatahay maxaa na dhaanto sxb..Somaali oo dhan waa qaxooti maanta.

[FarhanYare]

Faraxoos, talking about qaxootis, smh it's like the kettle calling the tea pot black, what a retarded insult to say you guys lived in refugees, when right after the daroods, hawiye came running to the same camps

yaan lagugu qosliin dont come with the fantasies you've been told here, everyone knows that darood were the first to end up in the qaxooti camps you name it from kakuma to utango and stastically they outnumbered in other somali clans... just accept it darood waa qaxooti

So Darood is the majority in the West? or, Hawiye and other qabils were professionals that came to those countries because there was a need. I don't care if Darood is qaxooti, they are going back to Somalia with money and education, maxaa ka fican?

good on ya mate

[FarhanYare]

faraaxoos1: adbo qaxooti lee nalatahay maxaa na dhaanto sxb..Somaali oo dhan waa qaxooti maanta.

true but i didn't end up in utango or kakuma

[SultanOrder]

faraxoos, I just don't know how to argue with you

[abdisamad3]

faraaxoos1: adbo qaxooti lee nalatahay maxaa na dhaanto sxb..Somaali oo dhan waa qaxooti maanta.

true but i didn't end up in utango or kakuma

maybe you didn't but many others probably did, anyway a refugee camp is a refugee camp wether its name is utanga or dhadhaab it doesn't matter sxb..

[FarhanYare]

faraxoos, I just don't know how to argue with you

sxb hawiye are refugees too i didn't say they went there as proffesionals ofcourse some did but not everyone but what's indespute here is ur argument that darood never went to refugee camps and am just clearing that misconception u've been fed..