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I just realised Somaliland will never come back... yes I'm one of those who always thought it would work again.
A 50 000 mps parliament full of habar gidr aint gonna solve sh!t sorry
delegating the main chair of Isaaq to the lesser tribes of Digir iyo Xarufle is also ridicolous.. I dont really hate them but these people are fukin weak.. its like inviting Germany to the table of security 1945 ...when they clearly lost the war..

man I just saw this socalled sheikh is gonna continue that 4.5 formula sh!t
The BIGGEST loser is not the minorities but the true winner of civil war Issaq.
when the fuk did we become DIR..
Its just a cheap trick from the daroodists

Now we have to share our section of the cake

with
Ciisa
Samaroon
and many more Dir konfuur minorities

Who ever that single " dirta waqooyie " who got offered a post might be
dont take it, we aint no fukin dir

you just realized this?

no tribe is lesser than another, get that thru your skull sxb

but 4.5 is a stupid system and only those based on merit should get gov't positions

btw, having a million ministers is useless, it needs only 10-15 at the most...

somaliland will come back, its just "meel ku gaar" my friend, no one will recognize it

but if you want isolationism even after xamar gets its shid together, then thats your problem

Sxb running away from your ancestors is not gonna make you arab or bring ictiraaf to somalia. Your grandfather's name is Sheikh Isaaq fiqi axmad which is the third born child of Dir. arab aan nahay iyo rasuulka aan qaraabo nahay waa sheekada marqaanka. Prof Ibbi is assistant Prime Minister and he sits on the Dir chair. He is Surre the brothers of Isaaq

So we have

issa
issaaq
qubeys
fiqi muxumud
samaroon

as sons of Dir.

....

Quit bitching reer sheekh Isxaaq, I am tired of qaldaan calaacal-ing when daarood guys fart! Ish..

I am sorry but Isaaq are stuck with us. we don't mind your little self proclaimed province of somaliland but Somalia would have to stay One country. That is how it has been and that is how it would be.

and for you mr fah what the fuk do you know about the term meel kuu gaadh ?
Somalilanders might used it, but not a konfuur idiot who overheard a couple of disgruntled habar jeclos.

dont play with Somali words you dont know son,
anyhow Isaaq is not Dir , I think that was proved when samaroon cooperated with the former Siyadist goverment in exterminating Issaq civillians.

Issaq is as much Dir as a lion is a lamb among lambs

laander8 wrote:and for you mr fah what the fuk do you know about the term meel kuu gaadh ?
Somalilanders might used it, but not a konfuur idiot who overheard a couple of disgruntled habar jeclos.

dont play with Somali words you dont know son,
anyhow Isaaq is not Dir , I think that was proved when samaroon cooperated with the former Siyadist goverment in exterminating Issaq civillians.

Issaq is as much Dir as a lion is a lamb among lambs

like i said, keep chasing the false dream and isolationism

the world will not hear you

icitiraaf or xamar getting its shid together? which would come first? i'd say xamar is much more likely

You guys will say we have nothing to do with Somalia, and the next day you complain about not getting enough posts! you lucky you even get some position, will we continue giving important positions to ppl that are running from Somalia, and aren't proof their patriotism and love for Somalia?

if you wanna get posts, proof yourself which side you at?

what the fuk gives you xabashi loving dickhead the right to call the 20 year fight , the brave coup de'etat of Sandhurst trained junior officers in 1962 martyrdom of 50 000 Issaq civillians a false dream , what the fuk gives you the right to call peace for isolation, we are not the ones stuck in america claiming to ' americans ' because he cant fukin make it his sh!thole called hiiranoo ,

no son the really isolated is konfuur savages like you who can't even make it tho his own deegan.

effing doqon using words he is not supposed to utter, are you a lackey of daroodists?
So thats bold statements from a small konfuur boy in Maryland whom his pictures and videos is well known on the internet.
fukin xabashi xaywaan dont you ever EVER do the dirty work for daroodists

you are really pathetic , reusing arguments from daroodists
no wonder they call you the confused xawaadle doqon

get lost nicca , go practice more somaali before you land in hargeisa next year was it ?
lets say if you will talk sh!t like that in our country, maalin dhow waxaad ka cawaadi doonta jeerka maandhera



Kramer we'll see really I'm complaining about the 4.5 system it aint working cause all the Issaq powerhouses are not interested so is not the people.

I'm just teaching this doqon fah a lesson

Kramer wrote:You guys will say we have nothing to do with Somalia, and the next day you complain about not getting enough posts! you lucky you even get some position, will we continue giving important positions to ppl that are running from Somalia, and aren't proof their patriotism and love for Somalia?

if you wanna get posts, proof yourself which side you at?

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Kramer

Somalilanders are tired of these illegal people (mostly Hutus and Eelay that come from southern Somalia) these Gudhus r draining our resources. You gudhus illegal’s have your new government headed by sheikh sharif and fatty new prime minister buluq balaq, so, it is time to go back to south Somalia and build your country. Remember, it is not okay to stay in Hargeisa and collect, food left over’s. If you want to be in Somaliland, Be honest, obey Somaliland,s laws and stop thieving their citizens …….. Plain and simple

Salamu aleikum. Cali-gaab first of all i really dont know of what to think of you. You're approaching this topic of referendum as a scholar but you're appraoch to the issue is far away from the esteem that you bestow upon yourself. No disrespect intended but my friend what my countrywomen, Siciid, is saying is totally right and you are wrong. When it comes to referendum, democratically, it is only in the region that in question that gets to vote (e.g. kosovo, Quebec in canada and most of the eastern europe after the fall of the soviet union. There's a proactive reason why it happens like which is to stop further violence, crimes and war because if a population on one side don't want to be a part of a union the what the other part could do about it? keep fighting? Send an army? use blockade method? all these method will just keep creating more violence in the region but none of these method by the way wouldnt have any effect on Somaliland. First of all Somaliland army could hold their own, and if they use diplomatic blockade for aids funds well in that case it could only backfire against the somali government and could be use to divide even more (xasiidnimo) and on top of that it wont that much affect in Somaliland cuz it wont make any difference on their living standard as of right now since they dont receive aids funds.

My point is that Somaliland is here to stay today, tomorrow, next 10 years or evev the next 100 years insh'Allah and that if they're not receiving the recognition they deserve right now, well they will receive it later on when our southern border gets their act together so we could sit on the same table and agree to leave side by side peacefully as tow independant states. You see you might laught at my excentrique idea but you will notice that most somalilander (especially the youth) are more pro-Somaliland than their elders. We been told that we have our own country which was mistakly given away by our forefathers but since now is back into our hands we will not let it go. Im sorry to tell this to all somaliweyn folks in here before you claim somaliland go ahead and claim djibouti or nfd region or ogaden. No one has ownership of somaliland but its own people and they want their own country and are willing to spend money, time and even blood to realize that. Period. Recognition is what the youth are seeking and they're not willing to negotiate on that. the dream of somaliweyn was crush and destroy the day Somaliland declare independance and that dream are well alive even more alive in the youth of somaliland. to my friends in the south realise that Somaliland is gone and is bigger than any politicians, so whatever riyale or silanyo (ISA) will do, the fate of somaliland is only in the hands of the people of the land and if they jeopardize that, well u know what happen (e.g. Tuur-AUN- which a SNM leader, let me repeat this a SNM leader was kick out of the country because he dare to jeopardize the dream). One person is nothing compared to 4 million plus folks. Let me entertain you for a seconde and tell you on what might happen if the government of somalia create stability and peace. Somaliland government will be approach but they will only come to the table if their independance status will be recognise. Obviously Somalia government wont accept that thus a middle man will come in between them to avoid any conflict and war. Through negotiation wiht the middlemen (country) the referendum option will be the only viable solution. And as you know the overwhelming majority of somalilander wants that and even those that are moderaly against it due to skepticism, they will join on the band wagon once they realise that it is possible. For all of those that believe that my situation-example is not possible well be realistic will yourself i will answer.

Somaliweyn-iens forget about somaliland, greater somalia has died a long time ago and the sooner you realize that the sooner you will stop going to a psychiatrist thus saving money which could be used to funds hospitals and infrastructure in somalia. just teasing....and to CAli-gaab be more realistic, a union with the south will only continue to create more tension, more distasteful and hate between us and them in regards to how the government is manage, whos receiving what, what post are giving to this clan and so on. Our nation was created so we wont need to be part of those problems. We're happy and wish out brothers in the south the same happiness.


Salamu aleikum

P.S. Wouldnt be great to have a union organization such as european union where djibouti will be on beard. Free trade, open border, economic and security partnersip. I believe that will the best thing to happen, to each his own government (which will create less tension and conflicts) but helping each others in important aspects.

P.S.S by tthe way Issq is not dir it was just create politically to undermine isaaq which are more than darood, according to the CIA satellite reports(just the fact that your deeqan is bigger than ours it does not mean that our population is smaller when in reality you should at the density of deeqan and not the size-e.g brazil and canada). Check this article that explain how come isaaq is a known as a tribe but under dir which is another another tribe name. it defies logic. ANd for u my countrymen (lander) what happens in somalia does not concern you and you should realize that by naming an isaaq person in their government is undermining what those people in the civil war die for. You should be ashamed of cuz most somalilander expecially those lving back home dont really want anything to do with somalia. To them only one place they call their country, Somaliland.

http://www.afrol.com/articles/13854

Gaaljano,

sxb even the break away soviet are now reuniting. Lama kala maarmo. dadku wuxuu isku yahay walaal iyo seedi. Qar iska tuur iyo riyo kunoolaansho mafiicno. dadkiina ayaa wax laqabtaan. iska ilaawa wixii dhacay. Waxa habargidir kaga mayd badan majiro soomaaliya. We would reunite when the south gets better xoogaa. Siyad barre is gone and his son hasn't even got an assistant minister poisition.

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like i said, keep chasing the false dream and isolationism

the world will not hear you

icitiraaf or xamar getting its shid together? which would come first? i'd say xamar is much more likely [/quote]

They hate daroods/somalia

daroodsim = Somalia

qardasay wrote:[

who hate darood..i have family members who are darood..most of the isaaq folks that i know dont hate darood..heck if we did we could've invade garowe last year...you see is not about of darood but the love of somaliland..so please keep yourself and your ego (which is inflated for no reason that i could deem noble)in check cuz us isaaq we dont really care or give any special attention to any particular tribe....

salam