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U.S. Sends Weapons to Help Somali Governmen

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U.S. Sends Weapons to Help Somali Governmen

Postby Goljano Lion » Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:29 pm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... eheadlines

The United States has sent a shipment of weapons and ammunition to the government of Somalia, according to a U.S. official who said the move signals the Obama administration's desire to thwart a takeover of the Horn of Africa nation by Islamist rebels with alleged ties to al-Qaeda

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Re: U.S. Sends Weapons to Help Somali Governmen

Postby Goljano Lion » Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:30 pm

To cut off the rebels' weapons and supplies, the United States has stepped up pressure on Eritrea, and foreign warships patrolling Somali waters to combat piracy have begun blocking cargo ships heading to the rebel-held port of Kismaayo in southern Somalia.

African diplomats have also proposed a no-fly zone over Somalia to prevent weapons from being flown in from Eritrea to the rebels, but it is unclear whether that idea will gather necessary support at the United Nations.

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Re: U.S. Sends Weapons to Help Somali Governmen

Postby FAH1223 » Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:34 pm

i wish somalia had proven oil reserves and pipelines...

so the USA invades

but theres nothing of interest in that region

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Re: U.S. Sends Weapons to Help Somali Governmen

Postby Faranacab » Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:48 am

Do you feel another 30 years of chaos on the way? Do Americans beleive "the only good Somali is a dead Somali"?

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From the late 1970s until just before his overthrow in early 1991, the U.S. sent hundreds of millions of dollars of arms to the Barre regime in return for the use of military facilities that had been originally constructed for the Soviets. These bases were to be used to support U.S. military intervention in the Middle East. The U.S. government ignored warnings throughout the 1980s by Africa specialists, human rights groups, and humanitarian organizations that continued U.S. support of the dictatorial Barre government would eventually plunge Somalia into chaos.

These predictions proved tragically accurate. During the nearly fifteen years of support by the U.S. and Italy, thousands of civilians were massacred at the hands of Barre's increasingly authoritarian regime. Full-scale civil war erupted in 1988 and the repression increased still further, with clan leaders in the northern third of the country declaring independence to escape the persecution. In greatly centralizing his government's control, Barre severely weakened traditional structures in Somali society that had kept civil order for many years. To help maintain his grip on power, Barre played different Somali clans against each other, sowing the seeds of the fratricidal chaos and mass starvation to come.

Meanwhile, by eliminating all potential rivals with a national following, a power vacuum was created that could not be filled when the regime was finally overthrown in January 1991, barely noticed outside the country as world attention was focused upon the start of the Gulf War. With the end of the cold war and with the U.S. granted new bases in the Persian Gulf countries, Somalia fell off the radar screen of U.S. foreign policy.

There is widespread understanding among those familiar with Somalia that had the U.S. government not supported the Barre regime with large amounts of military aid, he would have been forced to step down long before his misrule splintered the country. Prior to the dictator's downfall, former U.S. Representative Howard Wolpe, then-chairman of the House Subcommittee on Africa, called on the State Department to encourage Barre to step down. His pleas were rejected. "What you are seeing," observed the congressman and former professor of African politics, "is a general indifference to a disaster that we played a role in creating."

A U.S. diplomat who had been stationed in the Somali capital of Mogadishu acknowledged, "It's easy to blame us for all this." But, he argued, "This is a sovereign country we're taking about. They have chosen to spend [U.S. military aid] that way, to hurt people and destroy their own economy."

As the U.S. poured in more than $50 million of arms annually to prop up the Barre regime, there was virtually no assistance offered that could help build a self-sustaining economy that could feed Somalia's people. In addition, the U.S. pushed a structural adjustment program through the International Monetary Fund that severely weakened the local agricultural economy. Combined with the breakdown of the central government, drought conditions, and rival militias disrupting food supplies, there was famine on a massive scale, resulting in the deaths of more than 300,000 Somalis, mostly children.


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Re: U.S. Sends Weapons to Help Somali Governmen

Postby Addoow » Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:53 am

good news.but somalis must blame each other not the great country USA.
I never came across somali blaming USA For their misery caused by warlords,alshabab etc.

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Re: U.S. Sends Weapons to Help Somali Governmen

Postby Advo » Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:56 am

This whole situation is



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Re: U.S. Sends Weapons to Help Somali Governmen

Postby CoolPoisons » Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:00 am

Besides sending weapons, the United States recently committed $10 million to help revive the Somali army and the police, who in the 1970s were one of the best-trained forces on the continent but collapsed when the last central government fell in 1991. The United States has been sharing intelligence with the government, according to the U.S. official, and a group of Somali political leaders from various regions of the country have been invited to Washington to develop a strategy for fighting the rebels.

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Re: U.S. Sends Weapons to Help Somali Governmen

Postby Voltage » Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:08 am

Weapons that will end up in Al Shabaab's hands. The U.S should know better.

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Re: U.S. Sends Weapons to Help Somali Governmen

Postby paidmonk » Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:43 am

Yipee! Every bullet has the name of a Hutu written on it, I love where my tax dollars are going. :up: :som:

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Re: U.S. Sends Weapons to Help Somali Governmen

Postby JaMaaL-23 » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:00 am

All that weapons will end up in the hands of Al shabab whether they are sold to them by shadowy TFG commanders, or they zizesd after the cowardly TFG solders drop them.

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Re: U.S. Sends Weapons to Help Somali Governmen

Postby Addoow » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:06 am

the issue of loyalty has been raised so many times,but the US made the right decision,what makes you think the newly formed weak TFG has no loyal troops? the weak government has been battling alshabab and other foreign fighters over a period of 3 months and if they get a weapons or technical support from US,i dont see any weapon ending in the terrorists hands.
that is just an assumption.an unloyal soilder can not fight over a period of three months against a well motivated militant.

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Re: U.S. Sends Weapons to Help Somali Governmen

Postby nomadicwarlord » Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:09 am

The TFG also needs to send coordinates of Al-Shabaab hideouts/bases to the U.S Air force :lol:

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Re: U.S. Sends Weapons to Help Somali Governmen

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:06 am

Nomadic, indeed :up:

The US needs to send better donations:


1. Tomahawk Cruise missiles to the Al Qaeda Camps in Burco, Kismayo, Baydhaba, Xamar, Marka etc.

2. Targeted airstrikes against the airstrips controlled by the Al Qacida at Bali Dogle, Burco, Kismayo, Marka etc

3. Air embargo over Somalia and to shoot down all cargo planes headed to Al Qacida controlled airstrips

4. Extraordinary renditions of Al Qaeda sympathizers and funders in Western Nations for supporting terrorism.

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Re: U.S. Sends Weapons to Help Somali Governmen

Postby Goljano Lion » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:12 pm

AbdiWahab252 wrote:Nomadic, indeed :up:

The US needs to send better donations:


1. Tomahawk Cruise missiles to the Al Qaeda Camps in Burco, Kismayo, Baydhaba, Xamar, Marka etc.

2. Targeted airstrikes against the airstrips controlled by the Al Qacida at Bali Dogle, Burco, Kismayo, Marka etc

3. Air embargo over Somalia and to shoot down all cargo planes headed to Al Qacida controlled airstrips

4. Extraordinary renditions of Al Qaeda sympathizers and funders in Western Nations for supporting terrorism.


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sxb waxaad noqotay sidii laxdii reer mudug ee maroora dilaac u dhimatay, by the way do you have any proof about Al Qaeda Camps and airstrips in Burco?

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Re: U.S. Sends Weapons to Help Somali Governmen

Postby Addoow » Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:50 pm

Extreme violence in Mogadishu, Somalia caused its officials to call on the United States for help on Thursday. For at least three years, Somalia has been under attack, suffering massive suicide bombings by Muslim terrorists who disagree with the Islamic government.

The bombing began September 18, 2006 in response to the Somali government recruiting Ethiopian troops to aid in military operations, reported United Press International.

"When you have foreign occupiers viewed as having a different religion, that allows terrorists to paint those occupiers as having a religious agenda to take control of the government and transform the political and social institutions against the wishes of the local population," said Robert Pape, professor at the University of Chicago.

Newly appointed President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed, who took office January 3, has been desperately trying to introduce Sharia Law in an attempt to promote peace and cooperation. Now, the U.S. has agreed to provide Somalia with the necessary defensive equipment, reported BBC.

"At the request of that government, the state department has helped to provide weapons and ammunition on an urgent basis," said spokesman Ian Kelly.

Officials said that while the U.S. will provide support for training the troops of Somalia, they will not be responsible for conducting that training.


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