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^ not only are you misinformed but you also suffer from an extreme case retardation and trying to talk about somali politics with you is a complete waste of time

Get over it people every nation has their iconic lunatic seriously get over it, the man took the country in coupe, he wasn't about to be democratic and show love to every man who opposed him. It is expected that military seizure of a country leads to executions....everybody makes it seem like Barre was the first human to chop some heads off here and there. He caused alot of pain for the elites of darood not just other clans, so other than looking out for his fam, and his mommy's fam, he pretty much did damage to all Somali clans. So let us all now forget him, and stop whining like he is among us hiding behind the house gates of Reer Mareehan .

[quote="SomaliLight"] So let us all now forget him, and stop whining like he is among us hiding behind the house gates of Reer Mareehan .[/quote]

I'm afraid the wounds still hurt, the scars too visible, the emotions too raw, the aftermath too unbearable for us (or at least some of us) to forget S. Barre... BTW, who's Reer Mareexaan? You mean moorxaar? F'uk em!

Death does not give one a license to be forgiven/forgotten. We can't discuss the present somalia or its future without unearthing the cause; and that is where Siyad Barre comes in. This evil man is the single reason why our nation and people are the laughing stocks of other nations. Defending him or stating that we should move on simply because he is dead is why we are in a mess.

We should talk about him, we should make sure that his bones are on display in Hargeisa, Galkacyo and Mogadishu for the people to see. That could be a healing thing for all those that he murdered. We should seek all those that suffered under his rule (every somali including his children have suffered) and ask them to spit on his bones.


When that is done (when our pol pot is humiliated) then we can turn to other warlords (dead or live) and do the same procedure.


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One can admire dictators and mass murderers like Hitler who after losing it all bravely took a bullet and died honorably, but the likes of Siad Bare who after 21 years of frothing from the corner of his mouth bolstering swaggering with arrogance, runs like a dirty rat in a sewage caught by the beaming light of a torch, is pathetic.

The likes of Afweyne and Sadam Xuseen are the parasites among dictators, those who cowardly end their days despite their arrogant destruction of their country and people, these rats will never be forgotten by history, Said Bare should be despised the Coward fled Somalia faster then Ben Jonson and went to Nigeria where he ended his days fishing lice from his mummified hair like a baboon dying in a dirty white underwear. He died a pathetic death, that's the irony.

Interviewing his Nigerian bodyguards who stole even his flip flop and left him 1 dirty underwear , they commented every night he went into a fit crying " Gita Me Gun, Gita Me Gun" at last we new what he meant he meant "Give Me a Gun"...

There is a somali saying "Geesi Ergo Ma Diido" meaning "a brave would never refuse a peace delegation" , Afweyne the cowrd had the habit of constantly ordering peace delegation either to be shot or imprisoned, and finally when the rebels closed form all sides the chicken left even his womanhood alone in hostile Xamar unarmed, their been raped and their squeaks are left in every Mogadishu resident back then.

True you reap what you saw, and today never mind Daarood if you are marrying a Mareeexaan chick you have to aske 2 habar gidir for her hand under the assembly tree, he left the poor Mareexaan as a widow to be remarried by the victors.

[quote="dhuusa_deer"][quote="SomaliLight"] So let us all now forget him, and stop whining like he is among us hiding behind the house gates of Reer Mareehan .[/quote]

I'm afraid the wounds still hurt, the scars too visible, the emotions too raw, the aftermath too unbearable for us (or at least some of us) to forget S. Barre... BTW, who's Reer Mareexaan? You mean moorxaar? F'uk em![/quote]



What wounds?? You mean the wounds NOW inflicted on the entire nation, because of couple of sick tribes who wanted to rule ruthlessly too??

What Scars?? You mean the Scars of the thousands of innocent females, children and elderly hurt in 1991 by Aideed??

What unbearable aftermath?? That now Muqadishu is the most ugliest, destroyed and unsafe city in Africa??? And that our backyard is the toxic dump of the worlds nations?????????

No man or tribe has done more damage or shame to the Somali Nation then Aideed and his folks:

---> The Death of half a million Somalis from Bakool, Bay to Muqadishu.
---> The toxic waste being dumped in our oceans, because of lack of gov't
---> The draught costing thousands of lives, because of lack of response
---> The death of thousands of somali children from curable diseases because of lack of hospitals.


You can Thank Aideed for all that and more.

At least Siyaad Barre rulled Somalia 21 years, and majority of those years were our shining moment, our peak, rising star, african super-power, our self suffient in food days!

It was only after the uprising in Hargeisa, and Galkacyo that resulted in unprecedented outcomes.

Who was to blame?? The folks trying to destroy the country so they can become in charge??
or the Dictator holding onto Power??

Camel-herder . But the blame lies in Siyad Barre and those who unabatedly continue to glorify his rule of terror. The uprising in Galkacyo, Hargeisa and Muqdisho was an outcome -and not the cause.

The cause lies in the head of siyad Barre and those who supported him- and continue to support him for that matter.


We shall never get anywhere if we distort our past and side with dictators.

There is nothing discussing what happened in the past or history,inorder for healing to start in the future you have to acnowledge what happened any one who commited any inhumane crimes should be revealed whether dead or a live,why do we Somalis do all the evil in the world and then pretend nothing happened inorder to go forward past mistakes should be addresed so not to repeat them again hence an accountablity.

There is nothing wrong discussing what happened in the past or history,inorder for healing to start in the future you have to acnowledge what happened any one who commited any inhumane crimes should be revealed whether dead or a live,why do we Somalis do all the evil in the world and then pretend nothing happened inorder to go forward past mistakes should be addresed so not to repeat them again hence an accountablity.

[quote="Caydid"]We shall never get anywhere if we distort our past and side with dictators.[/quote]

what about the likes of caydiid, ali nafto and the rest of the former peasents turned politicians who are responsible for the deaths of more innocent somalis

Only a dumb hawiye says this, i mean a hawiye:

[quote]
Camel-herder . But the blame lies in Siyad Barre and those who unabatedly continue to glorify his rule of terror. The uprising in Galkacyo, Hargeisa and Muqdisho was an outcome -and not the cause. [/quote]

Listen dimwit, Mohammed Siyad Barre is dead, and you guys are still doing crimes, looting, raping and murdering each other after you slaughtered other clans. You fucked up Xamar and the most of the country literally. Mohammed Siad Barre built the country from the ground and made it a respected and well known state in the world. You guys are still after 16 years doing barbaric acts and crimes. If you go to Xamar and ask one of your cousins if he wants state? He will probably say no. Because with state comes justice, with state comes police, with state cpmes law and order and control and restrictions and afcourse human rights. Your whole foundation of life is build on theft, looting, raping, killing ,drugs, isabaaroyin and hijacking UN trucks and sell the food that were meant for the starving people.

Today the natives in Marka have to buy their water from mooryaan cousins of you, to water their beera. In Marka their is a drug planting industry that is runned by your fellow mooryaans.

You f-king loser dont EVER, EVER blame Mohammed Siad Barre on your barbaric acts that followed that great mans fall. \

The way you guys live is not human ways, nor animals, its plain simple anarchy, a lawless, selfish and lowlife lives. The houses you guys live in Xamar and Marka are not even yours.

A typical quote from your fellow mooryaans is " Why do i as a hawiye need a goverment? When i got several isabaaroyin in the best area of the city and live in a 5 bedroom and 2 bathrooms house which i killed its true owners.

Af-libaax:
What a bullshit. Where is your sources? I dont see no sources. Because most of your stuff is garbage.

a tit for tat...

darood and hawiyee can blame each other till the cows come home, but siyaad bare was a dictator and a dead one for that. it doesnt justify the barbaric behaviour of the last 15 years nor should it be an excuse to hold on to the past...

at least somaliland is about the only good thing that came out of siyaad bare's demise!

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