Why can't Somaliland rebuild

[SuldaanOfSanaag]

But its Somaliland which holds election regularly the irony. Somalia gov doesn't even control outside Mogadishu while SL sovereignty extend into all the way to dahahar

Somaliland is not perfect with the little resource it has but one thing we all see it's has better government than somalia. And you talked about freedom of press. like somalia is any better.

Is SL's economy better than Somalia's?

Yes pretty much except for foreign donation muqdisho gets more.

But as a output Somaliland has bigger budget.

Once the berbera corridor is done Somaliland will have better performances theres already two big factories in Somaliland al harbi flour company


And the SBI coca cola company


The cement factory and others will be built insha allah

[paperino]

Yes pretty much except for foreign donation muqdisho gets more.

But as a output Somaliland has bigger budget.

Source?

[gurey25]

But its Somaliland which holds election regularly the irony. Somalia gov doesn't even control outside Mogadishu while SL sovereignty extend into all the way to dahahar

Somaliland is not perfect with the little resource it has but one thing we all see it's has better government than somalia. And you talked about freedom of press. like somalia is any better.

Walaal elections are a tool so is democracy,
Do not fetishise it.
Democracy and the obsession with elections can be counterproductive and it's not something to brag about.

[BigBreak]

You're right Gurey but I agree with the statement that democracy is the least worst political system. We just need to know how democracy can work effectively in a multi tribal society

[paperino]

You're right Gurey but I agree with the statement that democracy is the least worst political system. We just need to know how democracy can work effectively in a multi tribal society

Couldn't SL come up with its own political system?

[gurey25]

You're right Gurey but I agree with the statement that democracy is the least worst political system. We just need to know how democracy can work effectively in a multi tribal society

Couldn't SL come up with its own political system?

yes it has but it half assed it, they didnt go far enough in adapting a system that fits into the culture.
despite how dysfunctional it is it did one good thing, avoided war and collapse.
The frankenstine monster mixing xeer with european political structure was at least better than the dozens of attempts at recreating the system from 1960, which was italian is still failing..


Ideally we should start from scratch, if not we need to heavily edit the constitution and the entire political system if we want to thrive.

The current system is perfect if you look at it from another perspective, if you are interested in stealing as much money as you can get your hands on then you have no interest in changing anything,

[gurey25]

You're right Gurey but I agree with the statement that democracy is the least worst political system. We just need to know how democracy can work effectively in a multi tribal society

You are fetishizing the term democracy again,
democracy is an essential part of our clan culture as a whole, while it was ancient history and an idea in a book for most of the world.
They evolved from monarchies to sharing power with other classes like the middle class, this increase in powersharing evolved into more democratic practices but they have never reached the level of basic democracy that the athenians had.

To understand the role of democracy its best to think of it as a tool,
think of it as a hammer or screwdriver.

You dont want a democracy which is mob rule chaos,
you want a democratic republic..

The average American understood this in the 1950's because it was part of the high school curriculum.
What is the difference between democracy and a democratic republic?
What did the US founding fathers envision? they were all scared of democracy and designed the constitution to prevent a democracy from happening.

Its 2020 and the US has never been more democratic then now..

once you have a true democracy it means you have removed most of the checks and balances that make a republic , the next stage in evolution if oligharcy followed by a form of dictatorship.

[BigBreak]

I hear you Gurey, points well made. Germany post WWII has done very well and has a political system known locally as a "militant democracy" through a parliamentary system. I think Somaliland and all countries in Africa and the Middle East would do well to emulate Germany's political and economic systems