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Do Hussien Abokar live only in Hargeisa?

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Do Hussien Abokar live only in Hargeisa?

Postby MrPrestige » Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:51 pm

i talk to this chick who is hussein Abokar and she told me that her clan lives only in hargeisa and i asked her weather if they live in other towns like Gabiley she said no majority of Hussien Abokar live in Hargiesa? i though gabiley town all sacad muse live there or is it only Jibril Abokar town

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Re: Do Hussien Abokar live only in Hargeisa?

Postby MissHargeysa » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:24 pm

Yeah my hoyo said we hussien Abokar only live in Hargeisa its not big news if the only place thats not in the city side then they live in hageisa country side nothing more. :sland: :up:

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Re: Do Hussien Abokar live only in Hargeisa?

Postby LiQaaye_TDH » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:20 am

Hussein Abokor dont only live in Hargeisa, but around Hargeisa as well, and the whole of Southern Hargeisa plus even in Hawd in Ethiopia...

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Re: Do Hussien Abokar live only in Hargeisa?

Postby MrPrestige » Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:06 am

LiQaaye_TDH wrote:Hussein Abokor dont only live in Hargeisa, but around Hargeisa as well, and the whole of Southern Hargeisa plus even in Hawd in Ethiopia...



really :roll: i didnt ask for your fake fairy tales - - i asked this question reer hargeisa and you clearly are not reer hargeisa stick with yirowe :arrow:

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Re: Do Hussien Abokar live only in Hargeisa?

Postby MrPrestige » Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:07 am

MissHargeysa wrote:Yeah my hoyo said we hussien Abokar only live in Hargeisa its not big news if the only place thats not in the city side then they live in hageisa country side nothing more. :sland: :up:



i though you was Cidagale ? do you guys live in southern waqooyi galbeed all the way to the Hawd

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Re: Do Hussien Abokar live only in Hargeisa?

Postby abdikarim86 » Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:26 am

^some live in the jigjiga zone
in the somali region

southern waqooyi galbeed borders dhagaxbuur
its not sacad muuse let alone hussein abokor

but yh we mostly live in hargeisa

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Re: Do Hussien Abokar live only in Hargeisa?

Postby MrPrestige » Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:39 am

abdikarim86 wrote:^some live in the jigjiga zone
in the somali region

southern waqooyi galbeed borders dhagaxbuur
its not sacad muuse let alone hussein abokor

but yh we mostly live in hargeisa



no wonder cidagale are not that many in somaliland - dont know why they have large settlements in ethiopia :| properly the largest isaaq clan in ethiopia after habar yonis , they do not live only in degaxbuur zone , they live also live in different zones , daroor , aware , and many more towns - i remember going to daroor the cidagale outnumbered the habar yonis in daroor - also cidagale are the clan that lives the farest in ogadenia

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Re: Do Hussien Abokar live only in Hargeisa?

Postby laander8 » Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:23 pm

Hargeisa is properly divided among five native sub clans.
Let's stop the calacaal for a second guys ( both sides )

I'll even state them here ALPHABETICALLY so no one can claim to be " lanbar one "
Arap , Ciidagale , Gabooye , Habar Yonis , Sacad Muusa.

I'm not too familiar with Sacad Muuse subclans
But from what I know is that reer Samatr and other subclans are ' buying' out ' number wise and bail out ' the original reer Magaal Nuux Ismail in Hargeisa, this subclan is often seen as the very aristocratic lineage of Sacad Muusa.
Sacad Muuse properly lives as far as the mountains beyond Harar!.
From Bulaxaar to Harerghe no other Isaaq subclan strecthes deeper into Ethiopia, not even Habar Yonis which border the five majors in Wardheer cuts such a clean line ( the only region where all five Daroods meet eachother )

Habar Jeclo is mostly an inland clan so majority of their territory remains within the borders of Somaliland.
Which is also the largest and covers probably 60 % of Isaaq territory, or more depending on their expansion in eastern Saaxil wether they have passed the Habar Awal frontier tuulo Siyaara.
HJ was mostly a coastal clan in guban zone until recent century as they started their migration later then the Magaadle side.

Ciidagale being the most exspansive of Magaadle, layed the foundation of our hold from Berbera to Hargeisa in different eras. Notice how Ciisa Muusa has followed in the footsteps of Ciidagale and today dwells in their former towns such as Lafaruug , Xamaas . Suldaans of reer Guleed lineage are buried there and the towns are hugely important in poetic terms.

As far as how the Hargeisa valley is divided among the four natives.
You can absolutely be sure that Ciidagale covers a clear majority of the region.
The most eastern point of Sacad Muusa is still Faraweyne, nearby is the most western point of Ciidagale.
Sacad Muusa have in modern era moved westward to Djibouti and Jigjiga.
Ciise is however the most western Somali clan and are today a stone throw away from the great Awash waterfalls of Afar.

Habar Awal nomads has Xaraf tuulo as nearest well which is around 10 km southwest of Hargeisa.
Arap is surrounded on both sides by Ciidagale in the southern corridor of W /Galbeed.
Their stronghold is Balli Khadar also known as BalliGubadle, their territory strecthes further west well into Harshin where they dwell with Habar Awal. Habar Yonis , Isxaaq Carre dwells with Abokr Muuse northeast from Halaye to Adaadley and Awbarkhadle. Ciidagale also dwell together with both Habar Awal notables Sacad Muusa and Ciise Muuse.
In Dararweyne and northwards into southern tip of Saaxil.
Because of this Ciise Muuse and Sacad Muuse share no deegans as neighbours as they remain split.
Ayoub lives in south central of Maroodi Jeex, but their numbers are small and are politically today absorbed into Habar Awal.
They have had problems with the Araps across the border and appealed at one time for soldiers to be protected in the early 90s in a specific incidident relating lineages of Ayoub and Arap.

Only one clan is represented in all four geographic Maroodi Jeexs zones.
If I'm not uncorrect though Hussein Abokr is the most powerful subclan of Sacad Muuse.
It doesn't matter how they live as they call the shots.
Last edited by laander8 on Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:23 pm, edited 5 times in total.

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Re: Do Hussien Abokar live only in Hargeisa?

Postby MrPrestige » Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:28 pm

landeer i did not ask you about demographics or about habar awal - i asked you which is larger - the cidagale in ethiopia or the cidagale in somaliland?

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Re: Do Hussien Abokar live only in Hargeisa?

Postby Cumar-Labasuul » Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:31 pm

laander8 wrote:Hargeisa is properly divided among five native sub clans.
Let's stop the calacaal for a second guys ( both sides )

I'll even state them here ALPHABETICALLY so no one can claim to be " lanbar one "
Arap , Ciidagale , Gabooye , Habar Yonis , Sacad Muusa.

I'm not too familiar with Sacad Muuse subclans
But from what I know is that reer Samatr and other subclans are pushing out ' number wise and bail out ' the original reer Magaal Nuux Ismail often seen as the aristocratic lineage of Sacad Muusa.
Sacad Muuse properly lives as far as the mountains beyond Harar.
From Bulaxaar to Harerghe no other Isaaq subclan strecthes deeper into Ethiopia, not even Habar Yonis which border the five majors in Wardheer cuts such a clean line ( the only region where all five Daroods meet eachother )

Habar Jeclo is mostly an inland clan so majority of their territory remains within the borders of Somaliland.
Which is also the largest and covers probably 60 % of Isaaq territory, or more depending on their expansion in eastern Saaxil wether they have passed the Habar Awal frontier tuulo Siyaara.
HJ was mostly a coastal clan in guban zone until recent century as they started their migration later then the Magaadle side.

Ciidagale being the most exspansive of Magaadle, layed the foundation of our hold from Berbera to Hargeisa in different eras. Notice how Ciisa Muusa has followed in the footsteps of Ciidagale and today dwells in their former towns such as Lafaruug , Xamaas . Suldaans of reer Guleed lineage are buried there and the towns are hugely important in poetic terms.

As far as how the Hargeisa valley is divided among the four natives.
You can absolutely be sure that Ciidagale covers a clear majority of the region.
The most eastern point of Sacad Muusa is still Faraweyne, nearby is the most western point of Ciidagale.
Sacad Muusa have in modern era moved westward to Djibouti and Jigjiga.
Ciise is however the most western Somali clan and are today a stone throw away from the great Awash waterfalls of Afar.

Habar Awal nomads has only Xaraf tuulo as nearest well.
Arap is surrounded on both sides by Ciidagale in the southern corridor of W /Galbeed.
Their stronghold is Balli Khadar also known as BalliGubadle, their territory strecthes further west well into Harshin where they dwell with Habar Awal. Habar Yonis , Isxaaq Carre dwells with Abokr Muuse northeast from Halaye to Adaadley and Awbarkhadle. Ciidagale also dwell together with both Habar Awal notables Sacad Muusa and Ciise Muuse.
In Dararweyne and northwards into southern tip of Saaxil.
Because of this Ciise Muuse and Sacad Muuse share no deegans as neighbours as they remain split.
Ayoub lives in south central of Maroodi Jeex, but their numbers are small and are politically today absorbed into Habar Awal.
They have had problems with the Araps across the border and appealed at one time for soldiers to be protected in the early 90s in a specific incidident relating lineages of Ayoub and Arap.

Only one clan is represented in all four geographic Maroodi Jeexs zones.
If I'm not uncorrect though Hussein Abokr is the most powerful subclan of Sacad Muuse.
It doesn't matter how they live as they call the shots.


Wow you really know your stuff, although I'm not sure if Hussein abokor is the most powerful subclan of HA, what I do know is that Jibriil abokor is the largest subclan of HA. They even have their own gobol in Gabiley and they stretch as far as jigjiga to djibouti.

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Re: Do Hussien Abokar live only in Hargeisa?

Postby LiQaaye_TDH » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:30 am

Lander.. I see you have been taking some lessons instead if your old nonsense!!! well put there!!! :clap:

Ps: The HJ has not only passed the small port of Siyaara but Occupies Easten berbera-

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Re: Do Hussien Abokar live only in Hargeisa?

Postby Ahmed-UK » Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:41 am

landeer - does musa cabdalle also live in berbera and saxiil regions?

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Re: Do Hussien Abokar live only in Hargeisa?

Postby abdikarim86 » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:26 am

isnt hargeisa split into 5 districts
and aren't 2 of them sacad muuse :|

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Re: Do Hussien Abokar live only in Hargeisa?

Postby MrPrestige » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:23 am

:lol: abdikarim does sacad muse live in berbera horta or they dont?

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Re: Do Hussien Abokar live only in Hargeisa?

Postby abdikarim86 » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:30 am

^ no


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