Ethiopia is NOT an enemy of somaliland.

[Aliyah99]

LOL at elen degeneres

Cali gaab,

so naive, there are daarod in ogaden region that have committed worse crimes against Somalilanders then ethiopians have ever done.. they like to brush this under the carpet because they need as many allies as they can get fighting the ethiopians but they have committed horrendous crimes against landers.

[Cali_Gaab]

And what do you call the handing over of off innocent Ogadeens to the Ethiopian authorities?

Do you know the exrtent of the crimes commited by the Ethiopians to the Ogadeens in the Kilinka shanaad? We're all in the same boat, you're comments hold no merit.

We're not even discussing the Ogadeen at the moment, we're talking about looking at the bigger picture here, if you fail to see that then you're a lost soul.

The Ethiopians do not differentiate between Ogaaden, Garxaajis, Habar Awal, Arab, Habar Jeclo, Dhulbahante, Marexaan or any other tribe. They merely take advantage of our narrow mindedness and lack of achievable ambition.

Do you regard the Ethiopians as your friend?

[GENERAL_SNM]

We as somalis have differences, we as Isaaq have difference, this is to be expected whats sad and really disgraceful is when outsiders try to take advantage of this. The ethoipians are employing a system of divide and conqour between somalis. They dont care if all the Isaaq's perish in the high seas tomorrow infact they would want that since they could finally reach their goal of the sea. The reason why the ethoipian are acting like they are our friends is all about logistics they dont have the power to control every somali qabil in the horn just some this is the reason why the Isaaq's have not been provoked. They are well aware we would be far to much trouble for them as we are a tight unit who would form a solid fighting block and with a port access.

Personally I dont buy this new phenomenon of ethoipia is our friend and somali is our enemy. Our history is longer then 88 and should not be forgotten but if you most decide that your whole view of the world should be shaped by 88 and that Darod and all those with them are our enemies, then how do you justify Riyale and all those prominent Isaaq leaders from the former regime getting a fat salary. How do you deal with having the had of the NSS as president and having that plane in the middle of Hargiesa. The whole logic is floored if we really are honest with ourselves as Isaaq. If we all tried to be a bit more objective it would go so far..

[Somaliman50]

Sometimes i think, the destruction of Abysinnia is key to Somali unity. They have the central role of keeping Somalis divided and suspicious of each other.

[FAH1223]

Somalistan, you're either working hard to play dumb or it just comes naturally.

First of all, it's not about what Ethiopia has 'done' to your people, ofcourse when one has a short term memory they're not able to think ahead. It's more like what Ethiopia 'can' do to you. At the moment it portrays to be your 'friend' in the time of need. A time where no other foreign entity is willing to recognise your arse. They summon the Somaliland leaders to Addis Abbaba when desired and keep track of their progress and give them instructuctions.

If it is your friend then please explain what taxes they pay for using Berbera port and while you're at it feel free to give us an insight as to why it's isn't recognising your arse immediatly instead of urging 'we'll be the first to recognise them after another member of the African Union or other establishments recognises them'. The African Union has hinted many times before that it wont recognise colonial boundaries although this argument is void. Add the fact that Khadaffi is head of the AU at the moment who has no interest in seeing Somalia divided.

The Europeans claim only the African Union are able to do so and thus Ethiopia is playin' tit for tat. Give them a false word and they shall please us, if bending over forwards is a sign of friendship to you then i sure do hope all your friends are females.

Second of all, wasn't Ethiopia the one that bombed a primary school in Boorame?
Doesn't Boorame fall under Somaliland boundaries?

Somaliland will never be strong enough to protect itself from Ethiopian bullying, we're not Djbouti who have the French to back them and even Eritrea is having a field day on Djabouti. Imagine a measle somaliland with a measle population of 3-4million, they'll run the place over quicker than you can urinate.

On that note, wasn't it the Ethiopians that expelled all snm members from their bases in Hawd when they signed a treaty with the Barre administration and he supposedly stopped financing rebel groups in Ethiopia?
Where was this friendship then, out the window huh?

This friend of yours only seems to be a friend when it serves his best interest, the reason we've become a puppet region is because we have gullible weaklings like you in power.

Spare me the bollox!

We as somalis have differences, we as Isaaq have difference, this is to be expected whats sad and really disgraceful is when outsiders try to take advantage of this. The ethoipians are employing a system of divide and conqour between somalis. They dont care if all the Isaaq's perish in the high seas tomorrow infact they would want that since they could finally reach their goal of the sea. The reason why the ethoipian are acting like they are our friends is all about logistics they dont have the power to control every somali qabil in the horn just some this is the reason why the Isaaq's have not been provoked. They are well aware we would be far to much trouble for them as we are a tight unit who would form a solid fighting block and with a port access.

Personally I dont buy this new phenomenon of ethoipia is our friend and somali is our enemy. Our history is longer then 88 and should not be forgotten but if you most decide that your whole view of the world should be shaped by 88 and that Darod and all those with them are our enemies, then how do you justify Riyale and all those prominent Isaaq leaders from the former regime getting a fat salary. How do you deal with having the had of the NSS as president and having that plane in the middle of Hargiesa. The whole logic is floored if we really are honest with ourselves as Isaaq. If we all tried to be a bit more objective it would go so far..

The Ethiopians do not differentiate between Ogaaden, Garxaajis, Habar Awal, Arab, Habar Jeclo, Dhulbahante, Marexaan or any other tribe. They merely take advantage of our narrow mindedness and lack of achievable ambition.

Do you regard the Ethiopians as your friend?

[Elan Morin Tedronai]

cali_gaab,

like i said earlier, you are dealing with someone who has no sense of perception of even the capacity to think. It's animals like him who were cheering when those habashi scum invaded xamar, killed those waddad in the masjids and raped somali women. And he has the audacity to come on this board and tell us that eithopia is not our enemy.

Wallahi these people are the lowest of the low.

jahil foqol jahil

[Goljano Lion]

cali_gaab,

like i said earlier, you are dealing with someone who has no sense of perception of even the capacity to think. It's animals like him who were cheering when those habashi scum invaded xamar, killed those waddad in the masjids and raped somali women. And he has the audacity to come on this board and tell us that eithopia is not our enemy.

Wallahi these people are the lowest of the low.

jahil foqol jahil

do you really think we care about your opinions or these southern Somali savages? cry me a river faggoot/dyke.
try to respect other ppl views hooyada wase then i will give you a respect. Agree to disagree qaniis boi

[abdikarim86]

elan do you ever wonder why you get dissed and called a faqash

its not cuz of your views, lots of people have them.
you call people who want independence jaahilin and all sorts of names
your whole purpose here is to diss northerners.

markaa dont blame us if we think you are faqash

[Somalistan]

Ali gaab,

so much rhotoric so little meaning. You are old enough to know self interest cometh before else. The zoomalis usually make the most anti ethiopian sentiments. But their actions point the other way. Abdullahi yusuf fought against ethiopia twice as part of the sna. Then become an ally with them as rebell leader. Then relations were strained and was jailed by ethiopia. Then restored ties with addis ababa as pland/tfg leader Then in comes sh. Shariif who previously declared 'jihad' on ethiopia, and ''hated" ethiopian guts only to have come in terms with melez who killed thousands of hawiyees. He was in fact endorsed by melez himself. These are examples of the great hypocry of zoomalis. They sell out more than you can imagine. They take bribes from companies dumping toxic on their coast, they sold portions of their coastline to kenya. But somehow they wanna turn the tables on us.When we conduct mutual two state relations we are percieved as bend overs. When zoomalis do like i mentioned then anti gaalo and jihad talk vanish. What gives? Self interest...that is what it boils down to. This whole argument of ethiopia being an enemy is blown way out of portportion. They are looking out for themselves as much as we do. Had zoomalis stopped this bad behavior maybe ethiopia wouldnt have come into their territories. Also the bombing of borama came during period of military hostility instigated by afwayne. He rushed to war, and we paid the price since we are close proximity we were made targets for ethiopia. We are no longer hostile with the neighbors. We should continue to display friendliness and goodwill towards the abbys i believe. These tough talks from the zoomalis is pointless rhetoric that will get them in trouble as always.

[Elan Morin Tedronai]

elan do you ever wonder why you get dissed and called a faqash

its not cuz of your views, lots of people have them.
you call people who want independence jaahilin and all sorts of names
your whole purpose here is to diss northerners.

markaa dont blame us if we think you are faqash

people who want to divide the country into little pieces because of qabeel are jahileen. whether you like it or not. If that means getting insulted by low life tossers on here then more power to me.

that's why i laugh at somalistan, aliyah and the rest of the crew. The way i see it, it's like traveling in a fast car and you find a dog chasing your car, barking away. You don't stop the car and start reacting to the dog. U don't. there is no point. I don't have the time for it.

[Somalistan]

Leave my name out of your ceeb-suking mouth elen. No one likes you in these circles go hung out with the faqash crew, where you are axcepted loser.

[Faranacab]

Ethiopia has its design on somalia and will surely work to destroy whats left of Somali unity. People need to wake up out of their coma-sleep.

[lali99]

to all of those zoomalis and sheggato daroos girl elan a.k.a magnificient i will like to tell them that in ethiopia is composed of a majority muslim population so in ur regards hating other muslims (in this case ethiopia's popualation including mulims) is not logical and rationnel for us, somalilanders..so u could take whatever opinions that u folks have and shove it where the sun does not shine...somalilander is independant from somalia as canada is from unite states and whoever we choose to have trade treaties and have a good neighbour relations is up to us....somalia is death get over that....if you dont believe that just look at somaliland future generation who are more hardcore than their parents..

salam

[Aliyah99]

So sheikh Shariff going to Ethiopia is not despicable act of a traitor but pragmatic and diplomacy

A/Y using Ethiopian troops to attack other Somalis is not a big deal

Somalis Giving intelligence to US bombers to bomb Somalis is regrettable but collateral damage

Ogadens being in the Ethiopian Army is normal

BUT GOD FORBID Somaliland's Berbera port is doing business with Ethiopia

Hypocrites

[FAH1223]

^ True

but I can't help but wonder how the balance of power in the Horn would change if Ethiopia became much weaker... they'll never collapse... no one is stupid as zoomalis