The son of Magan(Gaabo) Rooble Sultan Guuled, XKeyse come In

[Boodh iyo Torre]

listen, I know you needed some research material and I had asked one of my uncle's who is Reer Rooble Guuleed, about the story of Magan (Gaabo) Rooble Sultan Guuleed,

he gave me a small part of 1 gabay that Magan Gaabo's 5th son recited durimg his battle with some section of Ducaale, and Faraax,

-Afartanu oor wada galnay, yu odaykii weynaba
-mar hadana eegin ina arad la waa’geer’too
-rag ninkii oor’nugaal
-iga suga aya uga aqoon lita

excuse my poor spelling, and how many gabays of that episode have you so far?

[Digdahab]

I thought it was lost

[MrPrestige]

war sxb you have better lack asking the Cidagales oo jooga wherever you are.

[Boodh iyo Torre]

I thought it was lost

Nothing is lost, there is always someone who has it,

[XKeyse_]

Thats a short poem of Cilmi Magan Suldaan Guuleed , i have few lines along those 4. The total poems of that history (1825-1891) is over 15 poems:

1- suldaan Faarax Guuleed 1 poem
2-Ducaale sultaan guuleed 1 poem
3- Magan Sultaan Guuleed 1 poem
4- Kaahin Baxshe ( Cabdi Barri) 2 poems.
5- Cilmi Magan Guuleed 1 poem
6- Cabdi Cilmi Magan 3 poems
7- Xuseen Xasan 5 poems
8- Xirsi Cabsiiye 1 and the final poem on 1894.

total: 15


Iam missing all the highlighted once ,

[Boodh iyo Torre]

Thanks for verifying the authantcity of the gabay,

listen, I have cousins in Hargeisa that have good connections with Reer Guuleed and Ciidagle in Hargeisa and Hawd, I have Reer Guuleed relatives.I can try to arrange something and I can gurantee that I can at least get you some of those on the list, besides the the ones that have been lost all togetheer.

But nowing Reer Hargeisa their will be a fee attached to it, that 4 lines I just accidentally came about when I asked if he heard of Magan Sultaan, it came to me very easyily, that was very surprsing and gives me hope,

listen, I'll keep you informed, for any other lines, he was mumbbling some others but I just remember those,

[Boodh iyo Torre]

Can you pm me the others line you have to go with the above ones, since I am I'll be reserching futherer for you.

[XKeyse_]

This story is five generations ago and the Hargaysa you are talking about and the reer Guuleed are not what it use to be. The story began when Sultaan Guuleed was about to die in 1810 and ended when the young Sultaan Diiriiye suldaan Xasan sultaan Faarax sultaan Guuleed was appointed a sultan in late 1870's.

The poem of Cilmi Magan Sultaan Guuleed was given to me by Muuse Cali Faruur in 2007 and the poem of Xirsi Cabsiiye and 3 short poem by Xuseen Xasan , even him couldn't finish the story and give me a different account. Then I contacted the decendants of Xuseen Xasan Rooble sultaan , 2 elders one by the name of Maxamed Deyr, what i got from them was one 14 ( a D poem) line poem by the grand son of Magan (Cabdi Cilmi Magan) and 3 lines of a (S poem).

There is nothing in Hargaysa, these poems and even poets are forgetten by the reer Guuleed. There is only 1 man who wrote the entire story in 1981 as thesis when he was studying at Lafoole, his papers are the best, he has 20 pages document but he refuse to part with it, he thinks it will be a hollywood movie scripts lool and $$$ signs are running through his brain, that man is reer Guuleed he lives in Abu Dabay.

Now what you can do is , since most reer Guuleed know one another, you can aske your uncle or cousin of the reer Rooble to try to convince that man to part with the story so it can be sent to Indina Univeristy somali archives before its lost.

[Boodh iyo Torre]

Angu, HY baan ahay laakin my grandmother is the great grand daugter of Rooble Guuleed, so my mother cousins are Reer Rooble, I have numberous Reer Guuleed relative both on my dad and mum side, the Reer Sugullle and Reer Guuleed married heavily,

I have a cousin who is Reer Guuleed in Dubai, well connected and I think he is reallly close with the Buuba family, he is also married to my cousin, pm me the Reer Guuleed guy in Abu Dubai's names, and what jilib he is after, I am going to Dubai maybe Christmas, so i'll try and track him down and be prisistant, hopefully if luck is on our hands I can find a connection with him or if his has any Reer Sugulle connection it would be even better,

My brother-law studied at the time in Lafoole, and they may know he each other, but if this guy has money on his head then it will be very difficult to confise him other wise, but i'll can inform that it would not used for any commercial entiprise,

dont be pissamistict, the Musa Cali Farur you talk about is he not the HJ historian, XKeyse_ your right about the peope of Hargeisa and the Ciidegale have changed, but the Reer Hawd are totally different there stuck in the past, I have relative that came from Oouse and Rabaso were the Reer Guuleed degens are, and these people stay in Hargeisa for like 2 weeks to sell their livestock in the Zaylada,

When i asked my uncle, my aunt was telling him of some other parts of the story, for us it was dinner chit-chat, image what a well organised, well connected, and well reserach endivour would bring,

The guy in Abu Dubai also had to get the whole episode from somewere, from 1980 till know thats short period of time and the same people my be around, he must have got it from some decendents or the Reer Hawd, as an oral soicety there still well be a huge number of have this history and they are certantly in Hawd. The reason Musa Cali Farur and you are having such maybe you should be more pesistant and even knock down doors,

[XKeyse_]

All i can tell you is his name is Khadar and he is reer Guuleed and is married to Xasan Ciise woman , he lives in Abu Dubay, reer Guuleed know one another is itsn't that of a big deal you can find him easily. He recently came from Hargaysa and have managed to bring the Ciidagale sultan to Muuse Cali Faruur to give up his part of the story and I beleive know he got the entire story and its poems.

[Boodh iyo Torre]

Thats a short poem of Cilmi Magan Suldaan Guuleed , i have few lines along those 4. The total poems of that history (1825-1891) is over 15 poems:

1- suldaan Faarax Guuleed 1 poem
2-Ducaale sultaan guuleed 1 poem
4- Kaahin Baxshe ( Cabdi Barri) 2 poems.
6- Cabdi Cilmi Magan 3 poems


total: 15


Iam missing all the highlighted once ,

Thats 7 poems, which means that you already have 8 poem listed below, are they all complete, all correct, all have their precise meanings,..etc

3- Magan Sultaan Guuleed 1 poem
5- Cilmi Magan Guuleed 1 poem
7- Xuseen Xasan 5 poems
8- Xirsi Cabsiiye 1 and the final poem on 1894.


Have you compiled all these 7 complete gabays, or was it the help of Musa Cali Farur.

X.playa I am a compelte novice when come to suugaanta, but my entire family are live archives of Suuganta and were all born and bought up in Hawd, and have good connection back home with very old men who spend their afternoons reciting poetry,

I'll try very hard listen I need some email for you, since I may not be on snet because I have uni exams during early December.

[Boodh iyo Torre]

All i can tell you is his name is Khadar and he is reer Guuleed and is married to Xasan Ciise woman , he lives in Abu Dubay, reer Guuleed know one another is itsn't that of a big deal you can find him easily. He recently came from Hargaysa and have managed to bring the Ciidagale sultan to Muuse Cali Faruur to give up his part of the story and I beleive know he got the entire story and its poems.

Firstly, are you serious about this guy being the only one with the episode? you mean tell me miyi iyo magaalo there the only ones, then in that case if it is that much of rare commodity i'll doubt if he would even enterain that idea from anyone.

Secondly, who is Musa Cali Farur, is he a historian, ma HY ba mise HJ? are Khader and Musa the only to guys who has parts of the episodes, or in Khader case is he the only who has it,

Finally, the Ciidagle Sultan could resolve two morons arguing let alone anything else, I know the guy he is quite funny,

Let, me try my uncle again for the mean while and let me see what I can dig up, if even it is a few line it well help you, since you need a lot luck and help,

[Digdahab]

Ciidagale poor clan its really going down, first lost airport to Habar Awal coalition, then deprived by Ciise Muuse taxes in Berbera.
not even masters of their own town, truly they have become the Sacads of Hargeisa

If Dawud Garhajis is ever to rise they must start by taking back the airport Cabdi Waraabe signed off
at least initially change the name from that shaydaan Egaal, in their own deegan the ultimate enemy of Garhajis is giving name to the airport
what a sad status of Ciidagale

[XKeyse_]

khader maxamed saeed , reer abdi Guuleed, thats his full name . good luck. He use to be Deputy or assistant minister of health in former somalia. He is the manager of ADCO oil company in Abu Dubay, Genral manager of account ADCO Supply chain manegment division.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

Ciidagale poor clan its really going down, first lost airport to Habar Awal coalition, then deprived by Ciise Muuse taxes in Berbera.
not even masters of their own town, truly they have become the Sacads of Hargeisa

If Dawud Garhajis is ever to rise they must start by taking back the airport Cabdi Waraabe signed off
at least initially change the name from that shaydaan Egaal, in their own deegan the ultimate enemy of Garhajis is giving name to the airport
what a sad status of Ciidagale