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We Somalis always fit into two categories when it comes to politics

1 is those that advocate the interest of their qabiil
2 those that genuinely support whatever is good for Somali people weather in djoubuti, hargeisa, or xamar

now Egal was a political genius who wanted to subdue qabiil dominated identity he wanted to create a place that was never owned by one clan (he knew the law of hegemony would favor his clan) and his idea was a place was shared by many clans, and for a bit it worked, but recently the whole Somaliland project became owned and advocated by one qabiil, so people that supported somaliland in the beginning see it now as qabiil enclave and this even causes anxiety with in the isaaq clan itself, habar awal vs garxajis, habarjeclo vs habr yonis, harti vsisaaq, habar awal vs guudibirsi, uhhhm this reminds me of 80`s when clan competition gave risee to the civil war,the illusion of egal is fading, dahir riyales divide and rule is becoming to obvious, siilanyo supporters are understanding why their leader won`t be president

Now somaliwayne on the other hand is a pan Somali believe and it’s a ideology is which not owned by one qabiil and that idea will forever overshadow all those narrow minded ideas of qabiil interest

I truly believe isaaq people had a opportunity but they squandered it when they choose to underline their project with qabiil believes
The tit for tat with puntland shows why qabiil can never be a qaran

Somaliland is back inside the qabiil politics of Somalia and when that happens isaaq people always lose because blood is thicker then water harti goes harti, guudabirsi advocate dir believes in somaliwayne (the majority of dir live in ethiopia so somaliwayne is a must for them) and if you know the dir alliance with darood you will know that dir iyo darood are wiil iyo abti who have close relationship

Every group has fools and the fools of somaliland have destroyed the bureo and borama agreements the was the basis for peace in Somaliland and they have undermind unintentionally egals hopes of reclaiming somaliland under the pretence of qaran not qabiil, but look how many isaaqs see somaliland as qabiil and miss the point of egal which was qaranimo and not qurun qabiil
When the civil war is over and people come to the negotiation table, the only thing that counts is how big is the land you control, how many population is under your wing and what important cities do you control, so when the civil war over, isaaq can only say they have hargeisa, burco iyo berbera, in my opinion its back to how Somalia has always been for the past 500 years which is darood iyo hawiye again with their clients

I dare some one to prove me wrong that isaaq will not be be a client(4.5) of darood or hawiye, call it irir or whatever there is, isaaq missed the boat, dawlad cisse of djoubuti learned from isaaq mistake of 60`s and choose independent republic.
isaaq will forever be in the same predicament has raxanwayn who are under siege constantly and the only choice they have is being neutral but yet face a future of being clients of darood or hawiye, marehan or habar gedir, Harti or abgaal.
the prime minister and president oof Somalia come from these old power houses of Somalia, it is unfair to those that are not predators, peace and democrasy means notting in somalia when you want to be top dog.
isaaq wanted to take the easy way out and run with somali territory but it will bite them hard if the project fails.

adigu qolomaad tahay^^


i don’t get where you getting we told you we don’t want anything to do with the koonfurians no matter what clan or tribe they are. Sxb we dont want to be president nor do we want to be prime minister of somalia or any other minister qofku marku waxba kula qeybsan wayo de maxabad uga dabba socon qofka wax kula qeybsanaya ula tag
We are the winners indeed of the civil war from nation building of somaliland to disarming the militia to forming a national Army,

adigu qolomaad tahay^^

why, so it it because you want to attack?

adigu qolomaad tahay^^

why, so it it because you want to attack?

No i want to know where you are comming from?

adigu qolomaad tahay^^


i don’t get where you getting we told you we don’t want anything to do with the koonfurians no matter what clan or tribe they are. Sxb we dont want to be president nor do we want to be prime minister of somalia or any other minister qofku marku waxba kula qeybsan wayo de maxabad uga dabba socon qofka wax kula qeybsanaya ula tag
We are the winners indeed of the civil war from nation building of somaliland to disarming the militia to forming a national Army,

Disarming the milita

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adigu qolomaad tahay^^


i don’t get where you getting we told you we don’t want anything to do with the koonfurians no matter what clan or tribe they are. Sxb we dont want to be president nor do we want to be prime minister of somalia or any other minister qofku marku waxba kula qeybsan wayo de maxabad uga dabba socon qofka wax kula qeybsanaya ula tag
We are the winners indeed of the civil war from nation building of somaliland to disarming the militia to forming a national Army,

The_Emperior5 somaliland has archieved alot but all they have archieved will be at the mercy of others who will once gain draw the map of power in somalia, just like isaaq people contributed to the independence of british somaliland, in the end all their hard work was given to koonfoor politcians who redrew the map of power in somalia.

what happens when somaliland doesn`t get independence, you speak in hypothetical manner, but all the indicator piont to isaaq will once gain be dominated by koonfoor once koonfoor gets peace, in that regard puntland has played nice game when they choose statehood over a independent republic atleast they have a say over their future, you don`t have that option or say because you have isolated yourself
even white people know somaliland independence is not in their intrest or somalia`s intrest in terms of peace

The_Emperior5 somaliland has archieved alot but all they have archieved will be at the mercy of others who will once gain draw the map of power in somalia, just like isaaq people contributed to the independence of british somaliland, in the end all their hard work was given to koonfoor politcians who redrew the map of power in somalia.

what happens when somaliland doesn`t get independence, you speak in hypothetical manner, but all the indicator piont to isaaq will once gain be dominated by koonfoor once koonfoor gets peace, in that regard puntland has played nice game when they choose statehood over a independent republic atleast they have a say over their future, you don`t have that option or say because you have isolated yourself
even white people know somaliland independence is not in their intrest or somalia`s intrest in terms of peace

Do you think Somalia and somaliland is where it was in 1960 dude things change Somalis in 1960s where getting to know each other , but Somalis got to know eachother the 31 years somaliland and Somalia was united.

Somaliland and its people are self determent they are very happy with their indepdence and that the koonfurians cant or have any influence in what’s happening in somaliland. Sxb I I told you before somaliland is not willing to be part of Xamar and it will never so whats there to be dominant over . if I am not even part of Somalia how can any one dominate me
I don’t care what puntlands interest if you love xammar and puntland loves xammar dee adigu tag aniga ha igu yeedhin anigu wa ka marma

loool you don`t get me, all am saying is you are still in chains but you talk like you free and independent of koonfoor, tell me how many embassy does the republic of somaliland have, or how many head of states have visited somaliland, now all am saying is the people you are running away from still have you by the balls, they meet and discuss with the people you waare lobbying who you are traying to persent your case too.

this is map that is the reality, that the west knows and somalis know, people eat your share of the pie and in the future will design your future roll in somalia


now give me a answer what happens when their is no recognition, and don`t try to avoid the question because thats is the most plausible outcome that you face.

loool you don`t get me, all am saying is you are still in chains but you talk like you free and independent of koonfoor, tell me how many embassy does the republic of somaliland have, or how many head of states have visited somaliland, now all am saying is the people you are running away from still have you by the balls, they meet and discuss with the people you waare lobbying who you are traying to persent your case too.

this is map that is the reality, that the west knows and somalis know, people eat your share of the pie and in the future will design your future roll in somalia


now give me a answer what happens when their is no recognition, and don`t try to avoid the question because thats is the most possible outcome that you face.

Thats the somaliland map.

What the hell what a funny map you got there that’s not the Somaliland map let me inform you my friend , who is having the upper hand the TFG which controls 0.1% of Mogadishu let alone Somalia , they cant even control their own capital how can they lobby against Somaliland, your government is weak while my government control 97% of the land they claim, Somaliland has An Ethiopian Embassy and An Djiboutian Embassy , even though they are not registrated as embassies but these offices Are diplomatic offices in hargeisa. Somaliland. , further more stop Comparing Somaliland , to your clan state puntland Well Jendeye frazier visited Somaliland The Crown prince of Kuwait visited Somaliland, African union Chairman visited somaliland Minister of African affairs of Britian visited somaliland.Etc Etc. Somaliland recognition is a formality it does not hold as back whether Somaliland recognition comes next year or in 10 years , our main objective is to develop our country and that can happen with or with out recognition , and also to atrack foreign investors to somaliland

The_Emperior5
the somalia will get peace you and I know that, especially now the terrorist are in somalia, somalia will get double the attention that they lacked previously.
now do you know how many states have been in the situation you are in now, here is just a little glimpse


my pionts is in 20 years again you will be complaining that you have been disadvantaged, cheated and oppressed, what are you going to do when xamar is peace and when harti goes somaliwayne when guudibirsi goes somaliwayne, what then, because war is not a permenent state

at this moment with out recognition you do not command any heights, infact you are a blessing in disguise for konfoor actors, 1 player less is a plus, hence the usuel condescending and patronising line of" walaalyaal keep the peace in the nort"

The_Emperior5
the somalia will get peace you and I know that, especially now the terrorist are in somalia, somalia will get double the attention that they lacked previously.
now do you know how many states have been in the situation you are in now, here is just a little glimpse


my pionts is in 20 years again you will be complaining that you have been disadvantaged, cheated and oppressed, what are you going to do when xamar is peace and when harti goes somaliwayne when guudibirsi goes somaliwayne, what then, because war is not a permenent state

at this moment with out recognition you do not command any heights, infact you are a blessing in disguise for konfoor actors, 1 player less is a plus, hence the usuel condescending and patronising line of" walaalyaal keep the peace in the nort"

Its up to them if the koonfurians get rid of terrorist its good for them if they want to negotiate with Somaliland about a possible break up of the former Somalia that the 2 countries recognize each other and , that Somalia opens its embassies in hargeisa and . Somaliland Will do the same in xammar.
Sxb xammar and their country is one up to them in 20 years there will be a whole new generation that never saw a Somalia every one who remembers the blue flag will pass away. In 20 years Somaliland is more advanced then its today. Lets just pray for you and your people if you have peace markaas.

I mean Somaliland started in 1991 and look at it today. What you think Somaliland will be in 20 years , things can only go a positive way , nothing can hold us back sxb why would gadabuursi be anti Somaliland what will they gain they are either president of this country or vice president . isaaqs in Djibouti and samaroons in Djibouti are trying to set up their own xisbi there to support each other to get rid of the ciise and affar hegemony including the arabs, What will gadabuursi benefit from Somalia. Nothing

As for the harti well the famous saying always Dadka guura dhulku ma guuro we control the capital cities of somaliland and since we have lascanood we are just poping out iidoor babys and in 20 years the city will turn in a shared town ..Here is the is the difference Somaliland is a country that no one can hold back Taiwan is being hold back by a strong china Akhabzia is being hold back by a strong ukrain. But somaliland has the upper hand the koonfurians are weak their government is weak the administration that controls them is a terrorist linked group.

If they ever gets peace the Somalia government will think twice to go to war again they just want peace . when somaliland brings On the table their plan they just have to accept it just the same way melez zanawi accepted Eritrean independence. If not well Somalia are you ready to fight another deadly battle well we are , I don’t think lets say Somalia gets out of the war and hunger and anarchy in 2020 after 30 years of war do you think they want to battle another 20 years I don’t think so my friend
We will just keep on doing what we are good at
God bless

If they ever gets peace the Somalia government will think twice to go to war again they just want peace .

who said any thing about war.. you're still missing the point.
you know what does Russia do when Ukraine or Europe disobeys their orders ?

looooooooooooooool...emperior inadeer ur too soft on this fella....sometimes i feel ur too soft and needs to hit them hard and bitch slap them with the truth ou think that isaaq will be dominated by who? did u say darood n hawiyeh?..look at this sorry uneducated fool of history...

1) know that isaaq were never happy with how somalia started at the beginning and the first coup d'etat happened in 1961..i repeat in 1961... is jsut happened that in those days it did not succeed cuz isaaq we're not united on this view but one they were u could see the result first hand (1989 shall we say)

2) Who do you think has defeated the old somali national army and got rid of them from their land while majeerdeen got karbashed, we on the other hands got them out of our cities, such as berbera, burco and hargeysa to start with

3) who can determined isaaq? is it the same darood that we're occupying their cities and grapping their lands as we speak..the same people that we've shown our muscle and manpower and subdue them? get real

4) You think that if isaaq proposition are not met, do you believe that you could over run us? you tried once and fail miserably

If that happen your better bet to call ur family and tell them to migrate from garowe cuz las canood will look like a child play compare to it... Nothing less of the presidency will be offer to us which we will laughfully decline and tell them tos hove that title of theirs where the sun doesnt shine.... the last qaran has waking up a sleepy giant that they were afraid of for the longest time and you havent tasted his smallest anger yet..so watch out and you better come here with something more realistics

kulaha we lsot the civil war....