Beesha Awdal Oo Aanu Raali Gelin Caleema Saarkii Ugaaska Bee

[AsadSL]

Horta reer awdal way sara kecen. Calanki Soomaliland maynan arkeen.

[Rooble90]

Horta reer awdal way sara kecen. Calanki Soomaliland maynan arkeen.

MaKu Fahmiin Walaal

[AsadSL]

Calanka Somaliland is not in the video walal. I only see a poster saying Awdal empire.

[The_Emperior5]

i have notice that 2 where is the somaliland flag in shirarkoda?

[AwdalPrince]

Awdal prince is right , always ..always gadabursi have had more presence in what is today Somaliland than the isaa .The french gave them a country , let them all go there !! Zeyalc doesn't belong to the issa nor should their Ugaas be crowned there , never been done before ! It is NOT for reasons of tradition my friends , it is for POLITICAL cause . Me as a sacad muse of whom you as well as your son have married into , say FUCK YOU Ismacil Omar Geele !! You area Ethiopian go back to Ethiopia . Djibouti -da abaheed watsay aynu ku dhalanay ba waxaynu uga soo baxnay waa raagas , walle inaaney somaliland iga ga daba iman karin

Sahan Galbeed nin wanaagsan baad tahay walle Sacad Muse are always welcomed and spoken of highly in our presence

[AwdalPrince]

i have notice that 2 where is the somaliland flag in shirarkoda?

I was there at the event, at the end they said: "Long Live Somaliland"

[The_Emperior5]

i have notice that 2 where is the somaliland flag in shirarkoda?

I was there at the event, at the end they said: "Long Live Somaliland"

waleh thats good

[AsadSL]

Where is Shirku horta?

[Siciid85]

i have notice that 2 where is the somaliland flag in shirarkoda?

I was there at the event, at the end they said: "Long Live Somaliland"

waleh thats good

do you actually believe Awdalprince.

[koohi]

i have notice that 2 where is the somaliland flag in shirarkoda?

I was there at the event, at the end they said: "Long Live Somaliland"

awdalprince,
man you are so weak if you don't see somaliland is suit for your goals say it, nothing to fear brother we are in 2010 not in 1969.

secondly, it was traditional party some people were welcoming their Ugaas no need for somalilnad flag or somalia flag or any political things.

[guryasame]

So are u telling there are no ciises in Seylac eeh meesha cidi kama joogto

Ofcourse Ciise are present in Saylac, I never said they wasnt there. My argument is deygaanka waxaa leh maxamed case. Most of the ciise who are in saylac migrated from ethiopia and were helped to settle there by the djiboutian government. The original ciise of saylac were a few and they were geeljire aka pastoralists. Laakin now a Djiboutian citizen who wasnt born in Saylac nor grew up there is ruling Saylac whilst the majority maxamed case oo ku dhashay dhulka are not in power. Waxaa miyaa iika dhaadhicineeysaa sxb?

Zeylac is cisse territory dude, the zeylac-harrar paths were still controlled by cisse durng richard burton's espionage mission.

" The chain was commenced by placing us under the protection of one Raghe, a petty Eesa chief of the Mummasan clan".

"Two routes connect Zayla with Harar; the south-western or direct line(1) numbers ten long or twenty short stages(1): the first eight through the Eesa numbers ten long or twenty short stages: the first eight through the Eesa country, and the last two among the Nole Gallas, who own the rule of way,"


I find it interesting that the Gaadabir are a warrior class in the Gadaa system of the oroma and as Siciid85 suggested Borama could very well be refering to the borana. C

The Oroma incursions into the region devastated the civilized states in the region and. was one of the main causes of decline. Harrar was relatively spared from the invading hordes by its walls.

Its possible that the gudubuur are the descendants gadaabir oromo warriors...just a thought. As far as the Isse are concerned they are likely authentic sons of the zeylac and even regions to the south of zeylac.

[AwdalPrince]

Guryasame

You make a valid point but did you ever ask yourself this question. The ciise that Richard Burton met were all pastoralists aka geeljire. None of them are settled down. The difference is anagu we settled down. But I can give you many examples of English travellers including Burton who places Zeyla in the Gadabursi sphere. Read this:

"The SomAli grasps his spear firmly in the fingers, and gives it one
or two quick jerks against the palm of the hand before casting,
the vibration being supposed to keep the point straight when
in flight. The best spear-shafts come from Eilo, a mountain
in the Gadabursi country near Zeila, and round the butt is
twisted a bit of soft iron to balance the spear-head." Seventeen trips through Somaliland and a visit to Abyssinia; with supplementary preface on the 'Mad Mullah' risings"

"A secret letter in January 1886 (no date) described the British “Protectorate” on the Somali Coast as follows:
“Originally the term “Protectorate” was applied only to British relations with Bulhar and Berbera and the intervening coast, which were based upon the first of Major Hunter’s treaties, namely that made with the Habr Awal. Following the lines of the Habr Awal, four others have been negotiated with the following tribes:
(a) The Easa Somalis, between Ghubbet Kharab and Zaila;
(b) The Gadabursi, to the east of Zaila and between that place and the Habr Awal who then carry on the line to Bulhar". Somalia Past and Present

"I obtained six weeks' leave to Somdliland, on condition I would
do a map of my route for Government. I was anxious to go
to Zeila and make an exploration through the Gadabursi hills,
coming out at the coast again at BulhAr. So far the hills
between Zeila and Bulhir were unknown. On this trip I was
in company with three friends, two of whom, finding game scarce,
soon returned to Zeila." Seventeen trips through Somaliland and a visit to Abyssinia; with supplementary preface on the 'Mad Mullah' risings"

Sources: http://www.archive.org/stream/cu3192401 ... 9_djvu.txt
http://adensom.wordpress.com/category/new-book/

They mention Zeila and the surrounding, especially the eastern and southern parts as Gadabursi territory, the ciise are west of zeila like this mentions

[AwdalPrince]

The Gadabursi Treaty with the British signed in Zeila:

"We, the undersigned Elders of the Gadabursi tribe, are
desirous of entering into an Agreement with the
British Government for the maintenance of our
independence, the preservation of order, and other
good and sufficient reasons.
Now it is hereby agreed and covenanted as follows:-

ART. I. The Gababursi tribe do hereby declare that
they are pledged and bound never to cede, sell,
mortgage, or otherwise give for occupation, save to
the British Government, any portion of the territory
presently inhabited by them, or being under their
control.

ART. II. All vessels under the British flag shall have
free permission to trade at all ports and places
within the territories of the Gadabursi tribe

ART. III. All British subjects residing in or visiting
the territories of the Gadabursi tribe shall enjoy
perfect safety and protection, and shall be entitled
to travel all over the said limits under the
safe-conduct of the Elders of the tribe
.............

In token of the conclusion of this lawful and
honourable bond, Jama Roblay, ........and Major Frederick Mercer Hunter,
Assistant Political Resident at Aden, the former for
themselves, their heirs and successors, and the latter
on behalf of the British Government, do each and all,
in the presence of witnesses, affix their signatures,
marks, and seals, at Zaila, on the 11th day of
December, 1884, corresponding with the 25th Safar.
F. M. Hunter
(the marks of Elders named.)

Agreement with the Gadabursi, ZAILA, Dec. 11, 1884 "

Read the date my friend. 1884! The cise had an agreement with the british many months after we allowed the british in zeila because they were geeljire, it was us who they signed the first treaty with because we controlled the city and british history proves it!

Sorry guryasame but I dont see that as evidence except for a few ciise geeljire who showed Burton around

[guryasame]

Awdalprince:

I did not say that your clan was not present in zeila, the place still had some traffic in terms of trade. Indians, arabs, danakil were also presaent, heck the governopr of the place was musa carre, hy. But according to this espionage expedition the significants of ur clan was minimal was in the zeila region unlike the isse that controlled the vicinity and trade corridors to harar. As for the port itself population was mixed.

The signing of the treaty with british in zeila is not the issue, some of the treaties were signed on a boat on the red sea, so the treaty could have been signed in Aden. Even the inclusion of the gudubuursi in the zeila region is not at issue, no doubt the gadabursi would come under the adminidtration at zeila, rather tjhan berbera or hargewysa. And btw, u said the isse were the pastorlist of the region, then u must know the Nomads in zeila region are the eventual owners of the port and foreign colonist and even native governors are temporary.

The important thing is that the isse have clear contunuity with the civilization in the area that had long since declined by the time the british came around. The civilization did not exist anymore and the port were subject to foreign dominance such as arabs and turks.

[AwdalPrince]

Guryasame

The clan demographics in Galbeed is strange. Because 80% of Samaroon are settled and not geeljire you wont find their geels anywhere. They are inside the town so its possible that the city itself is majority gadabursi laakin deygaan ahaan those who are surrounding it with their geel waa ciise. It depends on who you ask, if you ask the mahadcase who are the most settled in magaalada he will say zeila belongs to me and if the mamassan is asked he will say zeila belongs to me because i come every season. So let them fight for it. The solution is let both parties share the little town

At the end of the day walaal aint nobody going to back down on these kinds of issues.

P.S About us being Oromo. Its not true, dont you know that the Gadabursi and the Galla have been waging wars against eachother ever since the 16th century. We even have poems written about the wars between the Gadabursi and the Oromos, read this:

"Kutaanyadu (oromo) iyo waxii faras laheyd la isku wada keenay" Ugaas Nuur Ugaas Rooble They used to come to Awdal with cavalries and armies the likes of which hasnt been seen before and they defeated us many times and we defeated them many times.

Horta adigu you know some history so adigu you are better than Emperior iyo kuwaa kale