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Re: Digdahab - here is the latest Clan settlement map -1991-2010

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:35 pm
by Digdahab
the map itself is poorly made, but the underlying contexture is quite correct.

If those places you mention have been incorporated under Gabiley, then indeed it's Le Grand Gabiley we're witnessing today.
And Awdal has become and achieved what it always wanted, a unique distinct land separated almost entirely for Samaroon.
with exception of some Ciise in farwest

Gabiley should be drawn larger in future maps, todays Gabiley is not the former one.
This is actually historic

Re: Digdahab - here is the latest Clan settlement map -1991-2010

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:41 pm
by AwdalPrince
the map itself is poorly made, but the underlying contexture is quite correct.

If those places you mention have been incorporated under Gabiley, then indeed it's Grand Gabiley we're witnessing today.
And Awdal has become and achieved what it always wanted, a unique distinct land separated almost entirely for Samaroon.
with exception of some Ciise in farwest

Gabiley should be drawn larger in future maps, todays Gabiley is not the former one.
This is actually historic
Well actually it was the Sacad Muse elders in Sabowanaag and Eel Sheikh and those areas which were demanding they be seperated from Awdal. Somaliland is witnessing unprecedented levels of qabiilism. So a line was cut a few kilometres east of the city of Lughaya which sperated the Gadabursi/Habr Awal divide.
The Ciise are different, they were always living under the umbrella of the gadabursi and most of them migrate between seasons and are not really settled in the province. In fact previously there were more settled Sacad Muse in Sabowanaag, Eil Sheikh and eastern baki than settles ciises in the region. Ciisuhu migrate so they are not really considered reer Awdal.

Re: Digdahab - here is the latest Clan settlement map -1991-2010

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:47 pm
by Digdahab
That's what I meant

Most folks will only understand in the longterm how wise these new gobols were.

Re: Digdahab - here is the latest Clan settlement map -1991-2010

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:50 pm
by AwdalPrince
That's what I meant

Most folks will only understand in the longterm how wise these new gobols were.
Exactly I was never a supporter of these new gobols because it will create more qabiilism and that is anti-qaranimo because everyone will be thinking about their gobol only and not the country as a whole.

Re: Digdahab - here is the latest Clan settlement map -1991-2010

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:10 pm
by Digdahab
^ that's not what I meant

but you are getting closer lad, " everybody will be focusing/thinking about/ on these new gobols "

Second to Hargeisa

thats how a nation works .

Re: Digdahab - here is the latest Clan settlement map -1991-2010

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:15 pm
by Siciid85
Digdahab & Awdal prince, well this map is based on general knowledge - for example most people know starting from Tog Wajaale to the djibouti border wa samaroon , or starting from Yaboodh Yaboodh near Duruksi to Wadabaris is Garhajis , or the fact starting from Siyaara to Xiis is a hj territory, or the fact that starting from taleex district to buhoodle city and outskirts is dhullos etc it;s based on towns and districts , that is why this map is more accurate then all the previous maps who didn' t base it on districts nor towns.

Re: Digdahab - here is the latest Clan settlement map -1991-2010

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:07 pm
by Rooble90
With hard work and a long background research we were able to track down each clans districts & territories as clear as possible and their domain.

Southern - Somaliland borders

Garhajis - Southern Border - Starting from Yaboodh Yaboodh - 15km before Duruksi headquarters to Wadabaris behind Baligubadle.

Habar Awal - Southern Border - Fararweyn to Tog Wajaale.

Gadabursi - Southern Border - Tog Wajaale to Djibouti Border.

Habar Jeclo - Southern Border Few kms from buhoodle district, near Yaboodh Yaboodh & Xadiid village.

Dhulbahante - Southern Border from Taleex district to Buhoodle district outskirts.

Arab - Baligubadle District.

Warsanageli - N/A Southern Border

Cisse - N/A Southern Border

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Northern Seaside Somaliland Borders


Gadabursi - Zeila to outskirts of Lugyaha.

Habar Awal - Outskirts of Sabawanaag to Bataale beach.

Habar Jeclo - Siyaara to Xiis.

Garxajis - Xiis - Yar to Hundegal.

Warsangeli - Hundegal to Ceelayo outskirts.

Cisse - Zeila to Djibouti border.

Dhulbahante- N/A Northern borders.

The Suldan hopes this will be useful to the students of somaliland section who are interested in knowing the clan settlements in somaliland.


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Where Is Ciidagale ???????

Re: Digdahab - here is the latest Clan settlement map -1991-2010

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:09 pm
by Ismail_Boss
he combined it with garhajis

Re: Digdahab - here is the latest Clan settlement map -1991-2010

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:22 pm
by Rooble90
awdalprince why do u want adwal to be free of sacadmuse come on man we want half of borame and half of dila and half of lughaya then we are happy i think thats seems fair :up: :sland:
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Re: Digdahab - here is the latest Clan settlement map -1991-2010

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:17 am
by LiQaaye_TDH
War Siciid ileen waa Badow.. Gurigiisa waxaan Garaxjis ahayn Laguma Heeso....

Laasciidle = HJ- Reer Yoonis
Xagal = Habar jeclo- Hassan daahir

Re: Digdahab - here is the latest Clan settlement map -1991-2010

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:26 am
by MrNiceGuy2010
I'm impressed by the great effort that has gone into making the tribes map....but allow me to correct where u went wrong

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This is the true HJ degaan...and for the Sacad Younis they reside between the Muuse Abokor degaan and don't have one of their own like Gadhweyne in Ceerigaabo
except 1-2 little villages in Sanaag...

Habarjeclo resides to the barri of Berbera as well...the degaan doesn't start from Siyara but strats from Berbera itself.....this map is very much political, allow me to say,
and it was done mainly in Cigaal's time just to keep away HJ claim of Berbera minimum..and he created Saaxil for the same purpose...

Re: Digdahab - here is the latest Clan settlement map -1991-2010

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:11 am
by Siciid85
Liqaaye, laakinse i saw somewhere else where it says xagal is a cisse musse deegaan strange so are you saying cisse musa have no presence in the south eastern saxiil areas?





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Re: Digdahab - here is the latest Clan settlement map -1991-2010

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:13 am
by Siciid85
MrNiceGuy, Muse Abokar Deegaan is mostly Xiis and Garadag and parts of Elafweyn as the map shows, While S.Y areas are Goob iyo faadhigaab- eastern garadaag district - reer Camar Barkhad as the map shows eastern areas of garadag is still settled by S.Y , while Ceelafweyn district is shared as the map shows with sacad Yoonis, Sacad Yoonis do have their own districts such as dararweyn district, Oog - a kind of shared 1 , Bancade district, Bohol, gowsaweyne, Badhweyn , Gumays, etc and further northern sool to central sanaag bordering the musa ismail at godcanood, bar ama baro.




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Re: Digdahab - here is the latest Clan settlement map -1991-2010

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:18 pm
by LiQaaye_TDH
Siciid.... Walle you dont know much about the Isaaq Degaans except few Garxajis ones...

Habar Jeclo Controls the largest territory, and the longest coast of the Isaaq Degaan, Habar jeclo Lives from Berbera it self, (Easten Berbera=HJ) while the rest of Berbera is shared, between Majority Ciise Muse and few Hy subclans)

The Habar jeclo reaches Xiis and Ruguuda wich is settled by Udurxmiin in Xiis and Sanbuur Bari in Ruguuda near Mayd! all the way to Ceerigabo, are you telling us Habar jeclo dont live in Ceerigabo?

From Ceerigabo anything West and south of ceerigabo is a Muse Abokor Degaans, (Fadhigaab, Darawayene is all Biciide joined by Sacad Yoonis) all the way south to Garadag and Saraar is alll exclusivly Habar Jeclo (Muse Abokor Territory)

Xagal and Laasciidle = Are 100% Habar jeclo!

Re: Digdahab - here is the latest Clan settlement map -1991-2010

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:21 pm
by Siciid85
Liqaaye, inadeer let is not get ahead - Erigavo district is a Gadhweyn 90% territory just because some Muse abokars live in erigavo doesn't mean they have settlements in erigavo district, it's like the same way for sacad yoonis they live in Garadag city but it doesn't mean they have major districts in Garadag apart from the two eastern narrow places of Goob & Faadhigaab, Faadhigaab is a Camar Barkhaad - Sacad Yoonis territory sxb so is Dararweyn it's a Abdi Samatar, Reer Wacays, Reer Rooble, Musa Samatar, and once again the sacad yoonis have presence in saraar places such as Oog, Badhweyn , Gumays, Gowsaweyne territory even rightwing the Muse Abokar suldan knows, as for the Saxiil thing the 1 is more complicated i ll do a great research on that 1, but i bet Xagaal is H.J though.





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