sacadyoonis and reer yoonis

[Goljano Lion]

Reer Yoonis is much larger than Sacad Yoonis. We settle side by side with both of these two clans and no doubt that Reer Yoonis is much larger. When you add Cali Mohamed + Reer Bare + Baalayaal and compare with Sacad Yoonis ( Idarays + Reer Barkad), the picture is much clearer. Most of Baalayaal are reer buureed so that is why many don't know their full strength and I have seen them arguing backhome that Reer Yoonis is very much closer to Biciide. Well, if they insist that they are very much closer to Biciide, then they are larger sub clan.

In reality, if you don't know what Somalis in those regions call "qoodha-tiris" which is the count of men when their sub clans are paying the dia (i.e., mag in Somalia), there is no point of arguing that this sub clan is far more bigger than this other sub clan. So, one needs to research the "qoodha-tiris" of the jilibs in Reer Yoonis and Sacad Yoonis and come up the full picture. I do stand tough by my original claim that Reer Yoonis is more numerous the two.

waar maxaad tidhi nacaal ku yal reer bariga wuxuu af xuma ,

[Samatr]

I see this section is not free of baboon politics either.

Ramadaantaasaad Ciise muse ku afurtay

Hey don't put words in my mouth ha igu dirin ar may ii shiidaan.

[LiQaaye_TDH]

I still dont get this dum question? How Can you Compare reer Yoonis wich is one of the largest subclans of Isaaqs with Sacad Yoonis who has their largest Village as BOHOL , Reer Yoonis makes up the majority in Sool Galbeed aka (Saraar) They have a large population in Togdheer, plus Recently they formed new Degaans near Burco, and Yirowwe it self makes up majority of Reer Yoonis now, and the Guban Area belongs exclusivly to them, and dont mention Berbera and Easten Berbera!

[Runloow101]

Mindi afweyn baan wataa oo dhicis (gypsy) ku gawrici maayo. Ninka sheekadan bilaabayna hadduu nin gob ah yahay xaal baanu weydiisanaynaa qoladayadan Reer Yoonis waayo waa adigoo yidhaahda Gabon & China yaa badan.

Qoolyahan gypsy-ga ahi markii late nineties-kii ay maqleen doorashaa soo socota ayay tuulada Bohol reero ka soo direen iyagoo sahaminaya dhul Laamiga dheer saaran oo ay degaan kana codeeyaan. 30 Reer oo gypsy ah oo sahan malaha ah ayaa Caynaba yimi. Nimankii Reer Barre (RY, Cismaan Yonis) ayaa soo dhaweeyey shuruudse kaga dhigay inay Reer Barre u codayn doonaan. Halkaa iyadoo joogta ayay qolada gypsy-ga ahi nin Reer Barre ah si xun u dileen magtiina waa diideen oo damceen inay dafiraan. Reer Barre waxay Bazuuke la eegteen qoys ka mid ah qoysaskii gypsy-ga ahaa waxaana halkaa ku dhintay 5 qof. 29kii Qoys ee kale xaggaa iyo Oog bay u carareen oo waxa dejiyey Cali Barre. Dalka Reer Yoonis ee baaxadda leh maanta waa gypsy-free zone.

Haddii innaba xishood ku jiro qolyahan gysyga ah ee marba meel sheeganayaa waxay xusuusan lahaayeen sidii Baho Biciide Illaahay amarkiis u abuureen iyagoo 9 nin iyo dhawr dameer oo ay kala soo firxadeen Cabdalle Ismaaciil oo gumaaday.

Adigoo silloonbaan... (sab odhan kari maynoo waa HY nimankuye)
Gabdhihii saadada u ekaa
Sanka kaaga wada tolay... meaning iyagoon ku rabin baan kuu qasbay
Laba sal u dhexeeyii
Sacad Yoonis la lahaa
Maantana ayaa sirayoo
Sawdkii ku raaceen.

Baqtigan gypsy-ga ma cuneene gaajaa ii geysey. Waase iga intaas yaa ibnal Sumal wal sabeen!

[Runloow101]

Reer Yoonis is much larger than Sacad Yoonis. We settle side by side with both of these two clans and no doubt that Reer Yoonis is much larger. When you add Cali Mohamed + Reer Bare + Baalayaal and compare with Sacad Yoonis ( Idarays + Reer Barkad), the picture is much clearer.

Mahadsanid adeer laakiin hal baan kuugu darayaa
Cali Max'd+Baalle+Reer Barre = Cismaan Yoonis.
Cismaan Yoonis & Maxamed Yoonisna (Allamagan) waxa badan Max'd Yoonis oo nimanka la yidhaahdo Reer Gadiid (Gadiid Allamagan) waa largest RY sub clan.
As for Biciide- Reer Yoonis comparison, here is my take;

Biciide afar qabiil baa u badan oo kala ah Axmed Farax, Reer Iidle, Baho & Basanbuur oo xoogaa ah.

Baho vs CAli Maxamed .... Comparable
Reer Iidle vs Baallayaal .... Reer Iidle is larger
Basanbuur vs Reer Barre ..... comparable
Axmed Farax vs Allamagan ... Allamagan is twice as big as AF

Biciide & RY waxa loo yidhaahdaa Bicidaa badan,dee Biciide awoow baannu u nahayoo wuxuu la siman yahay Cali Maxamed laakiin faracdoodaa badatay.
HJ sadexda qolo ee ugu badan abtirsigoodu waa sidan;

Biciide Yoonis Barre Adarahman Muuse=5
Faarax Cabdulle Cabdalle Nuux Max'd =5
Yoonis Adaraxmaan Muuse=3

Adan Madoobe is the 4th largest HJ subclan

[Siciid85]

S.Y is larger according to the poll qalas end of discussion whichever clan the people mostly voted for is the largest.

[hargaysaay]

sacad yoonis
reer yoonis

labaduba waa bahabar aadan

[Siciid85]

Lord Diplock, however the parliament and the degaan says something else, S.Y themselfs are the 4th biggest lineage after Xirsi Cismaan, Muse Ismaiciil, Isaxaaq so that is how they are larger than reer yoonis, if you look back in history and colonial books the colonials always use to refer to reer yoonis as "musa abokar" ma la kala qadqadjiriin ba, while they mentioned sacad yunis as sacad yunis which shows the true landheer nature, you need to hit some books bro.

Siciid Biciide is the largest sub tribe within HJ and is revered to as Musse Abokor so what is your point?
Sacad Yonis is HJ second largest tribe, so this question is a none starter. The question should have been Solomadow or Sacad Yonis?

since when did Sacad Yonis became hj, i think you mean reer joonis.

sxb anigu ruun ahaanta waligay reer yooniskan la sheego ba snet baan ku maqlay, laakinse sacad yoonis wa daad la yaqaano in all the major cities, burco, ceerigaabo that is their main cities, while they have big deegaans of their own starting from northern saraar all the way to southern erigavo and godcanood areas bordering the muse turwaa & maxamud xamuud.

[Siciid85]

sacad yoonis
reer yoonis

labaduba waa bahabar aadan

jow bahabar adana wa kuma.

[hargaysaay]

sacad yoonis
reer yoonis

labaduba waa bahabar aadan

jow bahabar adana wa kuma.

a new clan invented by the pioneer of unity hargeysaay, so that they will be the 3rd isaaq subclan to deeply believe in somaliweyn
of course after cidagale and habar yoonis

[Siciid85]

Reer Nuux vs Reer Yoonis

Bohol - Headquarters of Reer Nuux lineage of S.Y




Oog - Another Reer Nuux town






Reer Yoonis biggest village which they share with Cumar & Cali bare






There you go kids, i didn't even include the numerous other reer nuux towns such as ceel la helay, sabowanaag, siigodheer, dogoble etc.

[Ceelafweyn]

The final say is that sacad yonis are close friends of BOHO biciide and cali bare and we hope that they strengthened those relationships for the sake of the well being of sacad yonis.

Meanwhile, reer yonis our uncles of Biciide they make enough numbers to be compared to jibriil abokor and xirsi cismaan since they have thier own region SARAAR without even counting other parts they settled of Togdheer and Eastern Saxil bordering Ahmed Farah-Biciide.


The debate is worthwhile when you have two regions being compared in terms of productivity and growth as well as population. Now when Sacad Yonis gets a region ........BOHOL -would the village of bohol be enough to counter weight Saraar Region with three districts and 18 villages stretching and bordering Sool, sanaag, togdheer and saaxil.

I wish you all best.

Ceelafweyn

[Siciid85]

Ceelafweyn, boho mostly wixi iis yaqanaan idarays, and not the countless other sub clans such as the large 1's as reer nuux, cali barkhad, and your idea of a well being is a laughable sxb we both know who gets terrorised daily then calls for a peace here is some report from the Guurti notice it's the S.Y that are doing most of the killing...





1) Aaga Degmooyinka Caynbo, Xudun & Yagoori.
Reer Ciye oo Jaamac Siyaad ah kana dilay hal nin Reer Bare ahaana kiis culus waa la dhammaystiray, waxana la kala qaatay Axankii & Kafankii.
Sacad Yoonis-Reer Barkhad & Khaalid oo ay Sacad Yoonisku- Reer Barkhad dileen nin Khaalid ah muddo fogna ahayd, markii ay maqleen in Guurti ay joogto oogna yimid, waxa laga gaadhay iyana dhex-dhexaadin & heshiisiin rasmi ah waxana loo kala qaaday Axankii & Kafankii, wixii kalana in ay isa siiyaan ayaa lagu heshiisiiyay oo ay ku muddaysteen.
Reer Iidle dhexdooda oo kala dhagaroobay ayaa iyana lagu heshiisiiyay, laguna so oaf-jaray khilaafkoodii.
Saddex dil oo ay gaysteen Cali Bare ayaa iyana la dhammeeyay, iyadoo la siiyay Axankii & Kafankiiba Beelihii ay ka dileen.
Intaasi oo dhan Toddoba dil (7dil) waa la dhammaystiray waana la sugay dhammaystirkooda .

Waxa gacanta lgu hayaa oo gaba-gaba ku dhaw Sagaal dil oo kale oo dhex-maray:-

ü Shan dil oo Cali Bare ku leeyay Reer Yoonis oo Reer Bare.
ü Laba dil oo Cali Bare ku leeyahay Reer Warsame (Jaamac Siyaad)
ü Hal dil oo Jaamac Siyaad ku leeyahay Cumar (H/Jeclo).
ü Hal dil oo Cali Faarax (H/Jeclo) ku leeyahay Reer Cilmi (Dhul-bahante).

2) Aaga Ceel-Af-weyn


Degaankaasi oo ay horena Guurtiddu uga hawl-gashay, wuxu noqday kan ugu dhibaato badan marka laga eegayo xal-ka gaadhida dhacdooyinka dilalaka ah ee dhexmaray Bulshada Degaamadaasi, waxana u sabab ah duruufo u gaar ah oo uu kaga duwan yahay meelo badan.

Si kastaba ha ahaatee, waxa wefidigii Guurtidda ee hawl-galka halkaasi u joogay u suurta galay in ay go'aamo heshiisiin ah ka gaadhaan, dhacdadii Bixin oo ka dhaxaysay Axmed Faarax Biciida Vs Basanbuur oo isku haystay muddo dheerba nin ku dhintay Shil Baabuur.

Dhinaca kale waxa iyana ay hawsheedii gacanta ku hayaan dilal iyo dhimasho ka dhexeeya Sacad Yoonis-Idarays Vs Iidla- Biciidle, sidoo kale Baho Bicide Vs Sacad Yoonis-Idarays , Xaamud Turwaa Vs Baho- Biciide.

Waxa intaas u dheer iyaga oo gurmad nabadayn ah ka sammeeyay iska hor-imaad ka dhashay jid-gooyo oo dhex-mary Sacad Yoonis Vs B/ugaas (Warsangali) kana dhacday Darar-weyne kuna dhintay nin Abdi Samatar - Sacad Yoonis ahi, ka dibna ay Sacad Yooniskiina soo af-duubeen rag Warsangali ah. gangsters

Xubnihi wefdiga Guurtidda ee Aagaasi Ceel-Af-weyn ku sugnaa hawl-adag ayay ka sammeeyeen oo Gurmad ah dhacdadaasi, waxayna arrintii ku dhaw-dahay in ay ku dhamaato is-af-garad.

Wixii dambe ee wax-qabad ah ee u suurta galla wufuuda waxa aynu heli doonaa marka ay wufuudu soo gaba-gabeeyaan hawl-galadani.

Arrimaha hawl-galadaasi ma dhib yara, waayo dad wakhtiyo hore wax kala gaadheen ayaa la dhex-dhexaadinyaa, kuwaasi oon intooda badani diyaar ba u ahayn in ay gashi baxaan, mana aha dhacdooyin qoyan oo la is-hor fadhiyo, oo ay dhincayadu u baahan yihiin wax kala dhex-gala oo wax kala yidhaahda.



Sababahaasi iyo qaar kale ayaana hawlaha dheeraynaya, sida looga soo dhaqaaqaana aad bay u adag tahay, waxana ay u baahan tahay gurmad dhqaale oo loo sii wado.

Waxan Illaahay ka rajaynana inuu u soo fududeeyo hawlahaasi kuna soo dhammaystiraan is-af-garad iyo heshiisiin laga dhex-dhaliyo Beelaha Degaamadaasi.

Allah Mahad Leh.


Somaliland Guurti.org




as you see most of the killings between S.Y & Biciide's, it's actually between Idarays & Boho, or Idarays & Reer Idle, ama Xamuud Turwaa iyo Biciide, kuwa ugu kuluul ee Reer Barkhad oo hal mar daadka kharajiya ma aragtiin ba your lucky.



as For deegaan bohol mashallah it's populated - from 5k-10k and that is Reer Nuux alone, while saraartan aad ku fanaysiid S.Y laftiigoodaba wii jogaan they got a lock down on Oog and all the eastern villages all the way to bancade inta uu dhaxaysa and that is reer nuux alone including gosaweyne north of oog & many countless settlements, saraar wax lagu fano maha sxb it's a shared region.

[DisplacedDiraac]

Lord Diplock, however the parliament and the degaan says something else, S.Y themselfs are the 4th biggest lineage after Xirsi Cismaan, Muse Ismaiciil, Isaxaaq so that is how they are larger than reer yoonis, if you look back in history and colonial books the colonials always use to refer to reer yoonis as "musa abokar" ma la kala qadqadjiriin ba, while they mentioned sacad yunis as sacad yunis which shows the true landheer nature, you need to hit some books bro.

Thats because all Musa abokers call themselves Musa Aboker when they refer to themselves (rather than their sub-sub clan), while other sub-clans for example ahmed farax etc never call themselves Mohamed Aboker when someone asks them for their clan. I guess its a Musa Aboker thing.

Reer Yoonis is a verrry large sub-clan, other small cities they inhabit highly are:
*Fagaayuub (Saraar)
*Ceel baxaay
*Habar harsaay

[Siciid85]

WestLdnShawty, are you a reer yoonis? i though you was C.B instead, laakinse as you can see already caynabo town the headquarters of reer yoonis is not bigger then Oog & Bohol which is Reer Nuux -S.Y.