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Re: The Midgaans

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:52 pm
by Khalid Ali
dee distict qabri bayax magaalada qabri bayax iyo harti sheikha weye gabigeedu ba labada magaalo na wa is leeegyihin :lol:

axmed cabdalle wa salaaadinteena waxba haka sheegin our sultans come from their lineage since 1840

Re: The Midgaans

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:27 pm
by Dhaga Bacayl
dee distict qabri bayax magaalada qabri bayax iyo harti sheikha weye gabigeedu ba labada magaalo na wa is leeegyihin :lol:

axmed cabdalle wa salaaadinteena waxba haka sheegin our sultans come from their lineage since 1840

Horta how did thaty happen inaadeer? :lol:

Nimanklani ma iyagaa SM ba wax ka yaqaan is ka daa HA. Inttoda badani waa iska oromo.

Bah Gabo ama Adarhmaan. :up:

Ma maqashay the term SACBAA I OGOL in the SNM during the strugle?

Re: The Midgaans

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:21 pm
by Monk-of-Mogadishu
Dhabayac wa hunter thats what it can be a derogatory term if you are with geeljires somalis are not really hunters i mean the nomads they have xoolo, aka livestock

Iidoor is not derogatory term unless
business man is derogatory term or an insult but i don't think thats the case isaaq Poets used to refer them self as Iidoor back in the days Xuseyn xassan 1870s
What a f-king moron, at least come up with facts. :lol:

http://www.fsnau.org/downloads/1990%20L ... lation.pdf

Cumar Maxamud have more livestock than all of Isaaq. Bari, Nugaal, and Mudug have 1 million more heads of livestock than Awdal, Waqoyi Galbeed, Sool, Sanaag, and Togdheer COMBINED.

As for Iidoor, it does not mean businessman. Its derogatory, how can that be a good thing, doqon. :| -- Iidoor was created by Ogaden, same as Dhaboyaco (Dhaboyaco means "short") and Dhaboyaco includes all reer Mudug and reer Bari including Habar Gidir, Marehan, some Dulbahante and Leelkase. Iidoor was created when a poor Isaaq guy went up to a rich Ogaden man and asked him for goods, then the Ogaden man asked for one of his daughters in return, then the Isaaq guy said okay, then the Ogaden man told the Isaaq guy to pick whatever he wants, and the Isaaq guy said "Iidoor" as in "choose for me." That's what the Ogaden say and they're the ones who gave you that name so ask them.

Re: The Midgaans

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:28 pm
by gurey25
:lol: @poor iidoor going to a rich ogaden

iidoor dominated commerce from the begining,
when we were a tiny clan under the protection of our abtiyaal the maahe dir, we were all merchants that lived in the ports from mayd and xiis to karin and berbera.

Isaaq only started to become nomads and own camels when the portugese fucked up the entire indian ocean trade and
bankrupted everyone.

not only did we maintain control of commerce in the region, but we also outperformed you guys in the camel foking business and expanded from a few fishing villages in the late 1500's to the central somaliland in the 1700's.
and the haud from the 1800's.

not bad eh.

Re: The Midgaans

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:55 pm
by Monk-of-Mogadishu
I didn't make up the iidoor thing, Ogaden made that up, you have to take it up with them.

FYI, don't start a kaftan with Majerteen, we were sending trade fleets to Mumbai and invading the Kismaayo coast before Habar Jeclo first entered the record books.

Re: The Midgaans

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:41 pm
by gurey25
dude.. no one has a problem with iidoor,
its a obscure term used western somaliland i dont think anyone finds it offensive..

and that was not kaftan..

we never see your majerteen, we never meet
why would we care if you go to the moon.

im just explaining isaaq history 101.
we are only 800 years old.
the first 400 years we lived on the coast and lived by trade.
we bacame nomads quite late, and we made a success of it, with a slow and steady growth in territory at the expense of your fellow clansmen...
80% of the land my clan sits on today was darood sometime or another.

Re: The Midgaans

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:13 am
by Chinaman
dude.. no one has a problem with iidoor,
its a obscure term used western somaliland i dont think anyone finds it offensive..

and that was not kaftan..

we never see your majerteen, we never meet
why would we care if you go to the moon.

im just explaining isaaq history 101.
we are only 800 years old.
the first 400 years we lived on the coast and lived by trade.
we bacame nomads quite late, and we made a success of it, with a slow and steady growth in territory at the expense of your fellow clansmen...
80% of the land my clan sits on today was darood sometime or another.
You never see us yet you fuckers have the audacity to claim land that extends all the way up to buuraha bossasood iyo aagaga qardho iyo garowe, arrogance at it's peak wallahi :arrow:

Re: The Midgaans

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:30 am
by LiQaaye_TDH
I really support this !! and i got Land for them in Easten Somaliland, The SSC= The New Gabooye Land :clap: :clap: :clap: The Dhullos dont want to be part of somaliland, so they can actually move out and move with the Somaliweyn brothers :lol:

Re: The Midgaans

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:55 am
by The_Emperior5
The term dhabo yac is a hunter dhab iyo yac bey ka timid not just Majeerteen but also Merexaan were dhab yac but magacu wuxu ku hadhay oo kaliya majeerteen ,, because Merexaanki waxay noqdeen farmlanders sida bantuga

paidmonk you dont make sense why would an iidoor go as a poor man to ogaden iidoor were the most richest clan back the days they had so many celal herer ceelka xaraf ceelalka alaybaday to all the farm land in galbeed and ceelalka sheikh to all the farm land in sanaag . Iidoor was given by ogaden as a nick businessmen because the Isaaqs especially the habr awals with their Merchandise would go as far as deep inside ogaden territory and sell their goods wether it was food clothes waran (Timir) Arabian horses From adan, That's how the nick iidoor ku baxay kabadhe iidoor iidoors waxya isku xidheen caravans from seylac to berbera to herer . Thats why ogadens used to say hada kabadhe iidoorki awoowgi la gubgu gugan eegadan manu imanayn Thats why iidoor poets even use iidoor in their gabays when they are refering to the them selfs wa amaan weye

iidoorku waligi inu wali aha weye
inay wadaado wada kheyr qabban wada yihin weye

or

tarankina danbe na wuxu noqon tabacsane iidoore eh

^^ waxa tiriye Xuseyn xassan late 19 century


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Re: The Midgaans

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:41 am
by EEGA9
dhaga bacayl qabri bayax city it self is absame abaskuul, But the district of qabri bayax is not abaskuul absame its Reer AXMED cabdalle yeah if they dont like it we should not call them that but i dont think they dont like it didnt you went to a somali culture day here in london All the madhibaans were wearing i am midgaan and proud so its not an insult we made it an insult it can be true inay iyagu naceen magaci or some of them marki dadki kale cay ka dhigaan, u will see later madhibaan na xita cay markay ka dhigaan it will become an insult ileen dadkan somalidu wa dad xun magaca yibir xita cay bay ka dhigeen :|

So this like Galiley, gabily. The name of the city and the name of the region (gobol) are the same. The city is Anbskuul city but the region around the city is Ahmed Cabdale. Whuch means magaalda laga xukumo gobalka iyagu ma dagaan laakiin hareeriheeday loda ku raacaan. :down:

Kuwaasi inaany Anbskuul iyo ogaadeen ka fogaanayn amba waan garanaayay. :lol:

Qabribayax oo Dhan you live in Xarti-Sheekh which is the former SNM refugee camp...ma been baa taasi, Qabribayax is the heart of abaskuul.Theres maybe more Akisho than HA in Qabribayax as a Woreda.Absakuul own the city and the grazing land/farms, etc.

Re: The Midgaans

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:51 am
by The_Emperior5
We are talking about degmada qabri bayax not the city Degmada qabri bayax Is majority Axmed cabdalle While the city it self waxa inhabitgereye Abaskuul

as for farm land the habr awal degaans is the most greenest land in the Gobol
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Re: The Midgaans

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:08 am
by EEGA9
Dhulkaas waa dhul faafaneed Iyo dhul Jarareed, waa labada tog ee mara labadana Abaskuul bay dhex maraan degaan ahaana waan ku sheegay Degmada iyo magaala madax'daba waxaa leh Abaskuul.Taasi Maba fahmin meeshaad ka keentay HA baa Qabribayax u badan.Qabribayax way degmo badan tahay, waana hal degmo HA Xartisheekh.Abaskuushu ilaa Dhagaxbuuur ilaa Jigjiga labada gobol meeshay iska qabtaan bay degaan, Kor iyo hoos.

Re: The Midgaans

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:25 am
by The_Emperior5
Dhulkaas waa dhul faafaneed Iyo dhul Jarareed, waa labada tog ee mara labadana Abaskuul bay dhex maraan degaan ahaana waan ku sheegay Degmada iyo magaala madax'daba waxaa leh Abaskuul.Taasi Maba fahmin meeshaad ka keentay HA baa Qabribayax u badan.Qabribayax way degmo badan tahay, waana hal degmo HA Xartisheekh.Abaskuushu ilaa Dhagaxbuuur ilaa Jigjiga labada gobol meeshay iska qabtaan bay degaan, Kor iyo hoos.


No no i am talking about degmada qabri bayax not magaalada reer farax abaskuuul woqoyi galbeed bey ka dagaan magalada wa halkay iskala kulmaan Axmed cabdalle. waxad tidhi qabri baxay wa hal degmo wanay degmooyin badantahay hadalkasi wa is burin


bal an ku fahansiye degmada qabri bayax wa tan

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Re: The Midgaans

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:38 am
by EEGA9
Qabribayax Waa Degmo hoos timaada Jigjiga, Qabribayax'na dee degmooyin baa hoos yimaada saas baan ka wadaa.Map'ku faaida ma lehee waan garan Qabribayax, waana saan u sheegay sii khaldan baad u fahantay.anigu waxaan ku idhi Qabribayax magaalo ahaan waa Abaskuul, degmo ahaana Ilaa meeshay iska qabtaan Dhagaxbuur reer Isaaqa ilaa Jigjiga waxaa dega Abaskuusha.Adiguna waxaad tidhi abaskuul only live in Qabribayax as a city, which is totally bollocks sxb.There shouldnt be a debate about this ninyahow, wax fahan.

Re: The Midgaans

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:47 am
by The_Emperior5
Qabribayax Waa Degmo hoos timaada Jigjiga, Qabribayax'na dee degmooyin baa hoos yimaada saas baan ka wadaa.Map'ku faaida ma lehee waan garan Qabribayax, waana saan u sheegay sii khaldan baad u fahantay.anigu waxaan ku idhi Qabribayax magaalo ahaan waa Abaskuul, degmo ahaana Ilaa meeshay iska qabtaan Dhagaxbuur reer Isaaqa ilaa Jigjiga waxaa dega Abaskuusha.Adiguna waxaad tidhi abaskuul only live in Qabribayax as a city, which is totally bollocks sxb.There shouldnt be a debate about this ninyahow, wax fahan.

Eeg mapka Xuduuda Somaliland halkay ku joogsato bey ka bilaabmatay degmada qabri bayax ila iyo all the way south bari na waxa ka xiga degmada xarshin dhible aad si dhaafaysa hartisheikh waad si dhafaysa wa wali qabribayax degmada la joogo waad si dhaafaysa magaalada dubur weyna baad u so gudbaysa waad si dhaafaysa marad dubur weyna dhaaftiid baad tuulada ugu horeysa eeh aad tagtid ay tahay tuulo abaskuul miyaana marka la odhan karayn Degmada qabri bayax waxa ma jority ah Sacadmuse degmada mapka intey ka dagan Abaskuulku is weydi,,, inaga da degmada dhagaxuur iyo degmooyinka kale . hadanu mapku faido lahayn saxib sideen kale kugu sheega :lol: