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Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

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Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Postby Voltage » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:39 pm

Wallahi it is ironic Somalis talking about illegal immigration and fleeing and illegal aliens. Are not Somalis the people who at will fled to and stayed illegal in Ethiopia and Kenya for over 35 years now? Are you all not Somalis who fled illegally to the West, with some of us being illegal aliens ourselves or being related to or know one? What exact reason does Somaliland have for mass deportations in such a sensitive issue and tasking the local population to go on a witchhunt? This is exactly like the minutemens in the US being empowered by the government or the BNP and EDL being empowered by the UK government. The so-called illegals in Somaliland don't even get social security benefits, welfare, state housing, or any type of support from the tax payer which most of you do that would require such drastic action against masaakiin.

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Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Postby anonymousfaarax » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:46 pm

To you and EPDRF supporters yes they are economic migrants, but to a native who knows the persecution that exists, they are oppressed souls seeking a better life. I wonder how people can speak of immigrants and migrations when Somalis from Somaliland and others go to Qabribayah, who wish to eventually transport themselves to places in Oromia and Ethiopia? Telling me to believe that all people migrating then and now are all just staying in the Somali region would be crazy to assume. Also if this act is carried out, it could create an negative atmosphere for Oromos and Somalis in Haraghee who live peacefully together, as it did 10-12 year ago. This would not be good news for them.

If Oromos refugees failed to contribute it is not because of the failures of them but the failures of the local leaders of Somaliland. It is because of their lack of creativity and problem solving skill is that a problem exists. So simply using Oromos as scapegoats does not make up for the lack of accomplishments.

Seeking liberation is not that simple as you put it. It can take generations to fic the failures of our current leaders but thankfully Oromos are easily becoming one of the most educated peoples of the Horn of future generations.
I'm sorry but that is simply not good enough. If persecution OROMOS is that bad in OROMIA then you really ought to not run away from the problem when the problem is you earth, land, soild and country; you man up and do something about it; you organise yourself and do something about it. Simply running to Somaliland to beg does not make up for failure, cowardice, internal divisions and political impotence. By allowing your people to run to distant lands you are only removing the potential buildup of pressure that would lead to real political change and thus prolonging the current political reality.

You talk as though you're convinced it is better for your people, OROMOS, to stay in Somaliland than go back to their own lands. This is a sad reality.

The onus or burden of proof of contributing to society when in Somaliland falls upon the OROMOS and not the Somaliland gov. Either SOmaliland benefits from you or you leave. Simple really.

Seeking liberation may not be simple but it needs to be done nonetherless and it is not even relevant to this issue per se.

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Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Postby KingMJ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:51 pm

What exact reason does Somaliland have for mass deportations in such a sensitive issue and tasking the local population to go on a witchhunt?
Because Somaliland doesn't receive billions of dollars in aid like other countries, so in the long term it can't sustain having 100,000 illegal immigrants. Also this number is rapidly increasing as more and more illegal immigrants are arriving so in the future this number could multiply. So I guess this is just a preventive strategy to tackle this now rather then leaving it too late when it gets messy and out of control.

Also remember we are talking about illegal immigrants not legal, we have to concentrate on our own population first and foremost :up:

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Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Postby bareento » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:01 pm

Strictly speaking North Somalia has the right to expel oromos from its land!
But watchout, all these is flaming the naissant new bred ethio nationalism!
The love affair between this entity and EPRDF has gone very very far.

The payback day is not very far 8-)

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Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Postby BlackVelvet » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:04 pm

:lol:

What is this "sustain" you keep talking about? How does the SLand governemtn"sustain" these immigrants? Ma deen ama deeq aya la siiya? It just comes across like their mere presence annoys you. You have no tangible reason to justify the notion of kicking them out. About SLand doesn't receive billions in aid, the fact that you receive a cent of aid goes to show that you yourself are a beggar, and that is the ironic part. Somalis should be the last people in the world to look down on immigrants. At least give it 200yrs until this whole fiasco we're in is forgotten about.

If this is for real, wait until the Daily Mail picks it up and goes on about look how Somalis are kicking out immigrants and refugees, we should do the same. Ceeb aa meesha kadhici doonto.


Anonymous, sounds like you have bought into the political mantra of using immigrants as scapegoats for a governments own failings. You might have fallen for it but the rest of us can see through the bull.

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Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Postby Username1 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:12 pm

BlackVelvet your just bring dumb now. We, all of us from SL agree; we don't want influx of refugees and would like to keep Somaliland for our self advancement. If the Oromos are running away from their land maybe their eviction from Spmaliland will trigger a change that will be good in the long run. The current drain of manpower from oromia is not good for them and them living in Somaliland is not good.
If you want us to let Oromos in then might aswell be rid of the Borders and join Ethiopia fully, using the same passport and flag.. :shock:

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Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Postby anonymousfaarax » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:12 pm

:lol:

What is this "sustain" you keep talking about? How does the SLand governemtn"sustain" these immigrants? Ma deen ama deeq aya la siiya? It just comes across like their mere presence annoys you. You have no tangible reason to justify the notion of kicking them out. About SLand doesn't receive billions in aid, the fact that you receive a cent of aid goes to show that you yourself are a beggar, and that is the ironic part. Somalis should be the last people in the world to look down on immigrants. At least give it 200yrs until this whole fiasco we're in is forgotten about.

If this is for real, wait until the Daily Mail picks it up and goes on about look how Somalis are kicking out immigrants and refugees, we should do the same. Ceeb aa meesha kadhici doonto.


Anonymous, sounds like you have bought into the political mantra of using immigrants as scapegoats for a governments own failings. You might have fallen for it but the rest of us can see through the bull.
You sound naive, shortsighted and very much concerned with labels and political corectness.

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Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Postby BlackVelvet » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:29 pm

Definitely SLand should control its borders in a better way to limit influx of immigrants but I haven't read any reasonable argument for why it makes sense to kick out the Oromos already in SLand. On one hand you say they are beggars not contributing to the economy and on the other you say they are stealing your jobs. You know you sound like confused BNP.

SLand needs to concentrate on creating industries and jobs and then you can complain about who is getting them.


I should go to sleep I think now I am just repeating myself for no good reason

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Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Postby anilweyne » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:33 pm

It's xaraam to EXPEL, look down and mistreat the poor and the needy.

Qur'an Verse 9:60 Worship none but Allah (Alone) and be dutiful and good to parents, and to kindred, and to orphans and Al-Masakin (the poor) and speak good to people.

Qur'an Verse 4:36 Worship Allah and join none with Him in worship, and do good to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, Al-Masakin (the poor), the neighbour who is near of kin, the neighbour who is a stranger, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (you meet), and those (slaves) ...

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Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Postby anonymousfaarax » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:41 pm

It bores me when the only thing people use to support an argument is false mutual exclusivity.
On one hand you say they are beggars not contributing to the economy and on the other you say they are stealing your jobs. You know you sound like confused BNP.
Like I said before the two are not mutually exclusive.
SLand needs to concentrate on creating industries and jobs and then you can complain about who is getting them.
Expelling illegals and creating jobs are also not mutually exclusive. The former does not remove the need for the latter nor is the lack of the latter a neccessary and sufficiemt condition for the former.

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Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Postby BlackVelvet » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:52 pm

If that makes you feel justified like I said get rid of the shahada and we're both happy. :up:

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Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Postby DropkickMurphy » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:27 pm

This is just messed up wallahi. :(

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Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Postby gurey25 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:10 pm

are they muslim oromo?

if yes then we have no right to expell them..
if we were smart we would use this extra 100,000 manpower to develop our country..
If conditions are that bad in Ethiopia, we should encourage the educated and skilled ethiopian muslims to cme in and welcome them as brothers..

god will then bless our land..

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Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Postby Cirwaaq » Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:02 am

There is no single political strategy in the horn of africa that Melez is unaware of or does not have his stamp. Last month Slanders were captured within the borders of ethiopia on their way to Libya and returned home. Soon after there is this agreement to evict all illegal immigrants that have not been granted refugee status.

Those who have a legitimate claim will still recieve consideration.

I think this is responsible and ignoring the problem will lead to civilians one day taking the matter into their hands. Those that want to seek asylum must go through the proper chanels.

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Re: Somaliland Government to Expel All Illegal Immigrants

Postby Advo » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:20 am

You do know on stormfront the cadaans feel the same way about u :?
i bet you would feel the same if touch down in hargaisa... :lol:

even the most patient individual would be put to his limits.....

advo you just have to go there see it for yourself :mrgreen:
You are right, I don't know the realities of the ground but I am against Xenophobia and people going around on a witchhunt. Like gurey said there's other practical ways of solving the issue for example the government can make soliciting the public illegal but can also offer jobs that pay the same amount a begger would get. Cleaning the streets? painting buildings? road construction, roofers etc. It will be a win-win situation. Remember Muslim Oromos are our brothers and they shouldn't be treated like habashas etc.


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